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AndyMac
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1/18/2012 1:49:48 AM

NeuseRvrRat
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search what you wanna look at, hit escape when the article comes up before it goes to the black screen. worked for me.

1/18/2012 1:55:51 AM

parentcanpay
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^ new Thread(this).start();

1/18/2012 1:57:40 AM

InsultMaster
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not only is there a section for tech stuff but there is a thread about a work around to this

1/18/2012 2:04:03 AM

vinylbandit
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Google it.

Click the cached version of the page you want.

Profit.

1/18/2012 2:05:48 AM

wawebste
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call you representative damnit

1/18/2012 2:43:27 AM

GrumpyGOP
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I'm already annoyed as well. I'm a damn wikipedia addict. Probably end up looking at something on there 6-10 times a day, and that's when I'm just fucking around.

1/18/2012 3:21:30 AM

Netstorm
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Call ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES!

(All of them).

1/18/2012 3:34:18 AM

Krallum
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I only use britanica. It just reads better

I'm Krallum and I approved this message

1/18/2012 7:36:45 AM

Meg
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maybe you should call your representatives! be responsible citizens!!

1/18/2012 7:41:12 AM

goalielax
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that's the whole point

1/18/2012 7:42:53 AM

Meg
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SAVE WIKIPEDIA

SAVE THE WORLD!!!

1/18/2012 7:48:29 AM

Biofreak70
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These tricks don't work too well on mobile

1/18/2012 7:55:01 AM

jdennis86
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tried to look up odd future, wasn't happy it was blocked.

anyone want to help me out

1/18/2012 8:01:09 AM

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How could SOPA and PIPA hurt TheWolfWeb?

SOPA and PIPA are a threat to TheWolfWeb in many ways. For example, in its current form, SOPA would require TheWolfWeb to actively monitor every site we link to, to ensure it doesn't host infringing content. Any link to an infringing site could put us in jeopardy of being forced offline.

1/18/2012 8:08:23 AM

ThePeter
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^I haven't read too much into the SOPA/ProIP, but doesn't it just send a message to our advertisers to cut funding? Granted, that could/would eventually put TWW offline, but I was not aware that these regulations took down websites.

Lemme just go check the wik- OH GOD DAMN IT

1/18/2012 8:11:31 AM

sumfoo1
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It's a bill that will eventually lead to a regulatory agency over the internet.

thing FCC for the web (hell it may even be the fcc i haven't read the whole thing)

1/18/2012 8:14:39 AM

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I'm a bit behind... so did wikipedia decide to do a blackout because no one clicked on the links about the cat lady that contributed 37 articles?

1/18/2012 8:16:34 AM

adultswim
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The SOPA and PIPA articles are still online

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act

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"Why is Wikipedia blacked-out?

Wikipedia is protesting against SOPA and PIPA by blacking out the English Wikipedia for 24 hours, beginning at midnight January 18, Eastern Time. Readers who come to English Wikipedia during the blackout will not be able to read the encyclopedia. Instead, you will see messages intended to raise awareness about SOPA and PIPA, encouraging you to share your views with your representatives, and with each other on social media.

What are SOPA and PIPA?

SOPA and PIPA represent two bills in the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate respectively. SOPA is short for the "Stop Online Piracy Act," and PIPA is an acronym for the "Protect IP Act." ("IP" stands for "intellectual property.") In short, these bills are efforts to stop copyright infringement committed by foreign web sites, but, in our opinion, they do so in a way that actually infringes free expression while harming the Internet. Detailed information about these bills can be found in the Stop Online Piracy Act and PROTECT IP Act articles on Wikipedia, which are available during the blackout. GovTrack lets you follow both bills through the legislative process: SOPA on this page, and PIPA on this one. The EFF has summarized why these bills are simply unacceptable in a world that values an open, secure, and free Internet.

Why is the blackout happening?

Wikipedians have chosen to black out the English Wikipedia for the first time ever, because we are concerned that SOPA and PIPA will severely inhibit people's access to online information. This is not a problem that will solely affect people in the United States: it will affect everyone around the world.

Why? SOPA and PIPA are badly drafted legislation that won't be effective at their stated goal (to stop copyright infringement), and will cause serious damage to the free and open Internet. They put the burden on website owners to police user-contributed material and call for the unnecessary blocking of entire sites. Small sites won't have sufficient resources to defend themselves. Big media companies may seek to cut off funding sources for their foreign competitors, even if copyright isn't being infringed. Foreign sites will be blacklisted, which means they won't show up in major search engines. And, SOPA and PIPA build a framework for future restrictions and suppression.

Does this mean that Wikipedia itself is violating copyright laws, or hosting pirated content?

No, not at all. Some supporters of SOPA and PIPA characterize everyone who opposes them as cavalier about copyright, but that is not accurate. Wikipedians are knowledgeable about copyright and vigilant in protecting against violations: Wikipedians spend thousands of hours every week reviewing and removing infringing content. We are careful about it because our mission is to share knowledge freely. To that end, all Wikipedians release their contributions under a free license, and all the material we offer is freely licensed. Free licenses are incompatible with copyright infringement, and so infringement is not tolerated.

Isn't SOPA dead? Wasn't the bill shelved, and didn't the White House declare that it won't sign anything that resembles the current bill?

No, neither SOPA nor PIPA is dead. On January 17th, SOPA's sponsor said the bill will be discussed in early February. There are signs PIPA may be debated on the Senate floor next week. Moreover, SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. In many jurisdictions around the world, we're seeing the development of legislation that prioritizes overly-broad copyright enforcement laws, laws promoted by power players, over the preservation of individual civil
liberties.

How could SOPA and PIPA hurt Wikipedia?

SOPA and PIPA are a threat to Wikipedia in many ways. For example, in its current form, SOPA would require Wikipedia to actively monitor every site we link to, to ensure it doesn't host infringing content. Any link to an infringing site could put us in jeopardy of being forced offline.
I live in the United States. What's the best way for me to help?
The most effective action you can take is to call your representatives and tell them you oppose SOPA and PIPA, and any similar legislation. Type your zipcode in the locator box to find your representatives' contact information. Text-based communication is okay, but phone calls have the most impact.

I don't live in the United States. How can I help?

Contact your local State Department, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, or similar branch of government. Tell them you oppose SOPA and PIPA, and any similar legislation. SOPA and PIPA will affect sites outside of the United States, and actions to sites inside the United States (like Wikipedia) will also affect non-American readers -- like you. Calling your own government will also let them know you don't want them to create their own bad anti-Internet legislation.

Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?

Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.

I keep hearing that this is a fight between Hollywood and Silicon Valley. Is that true?

No. Some people are characterizing it that way, probably in an effort to imply all the participants are motivated by commercial self-interest. But it's obviously not that simple. The proof of that is Wikipedia's involvement. Wikipedia has no financial self-interest at play here: we do not benefit from copyright infringement, nor are we trying to monetize traffic or sell ads. We are protesting to raise awareness about SOPA and PIPA solely because we think they will hurt the Internet, and your ability to access information online. We are doing this for you, because we're on your side.

In carrying out this protest, is Wikipedia abandoning neutrality?

We hope you continue to trust Wikipedia to be a neutral information source. We are staging this blackout because (as Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee Kat Walsh said recently), although Wikipedia’s articles are neutral, its existence is not. For over a decade, Wikipedians have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Wikipedia is a tremendously useful resource, and its existence depends upon a free, open and uncensored Internet. SOPA and PIPA (and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States) will hurt you, because they will make it impossible for sites you enjoy, and benefit from, to continue to exist. That's why we're doing this."

1/18/2012 8:19:59 AM

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57360499-52/mpaa-blasts-dangerous-anti-sopa-blackouts-as-stunts/
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"Anti-SOPA blackouts planned for tomorrow by sites like Wikipedia, Boing Boing, Reddit, and others are "stunts" that are "dangerous and troubling," Hollywood's chief lobbyist said.
In a statement issued today (PDF), MPAA chairman and CEO--and former U.S. Senator--Chris Dodd railed against the blackouts, calling them "an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on [the sites] for information and [who] use their services."

Dodd also said that the blackouts are "an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."

The Stop Online Piracy Act is a favorite of Hollywood, and is heavily supported by both the MPAA and the Recording Industry Association of America. By contrast, Silicon Valley heavyweights like Google, Facebook, Twitter, and others have come out against the legislation.

For its part, the Wikimedia Foundation, which runs Wikipedia, justified its decision to take the free encyclopedia dark tomorrow by saying that if SOPA passes, the legislation "will harm the free and open Internet and bring about new tools for censorship of international Web sites inside the United States.

And while Wikipedia will be blacked out tomorrow, it will still be possible for those wanting to get information from the site to do so.

Reddit's editors wrote last week that "the freedom, innovation, and economic opportunity that the Internet enables is in jeopardy. Congress is considering legislation that will dramatically change your Internet experience, and put an end to Reddit and many other sites you use every day. Internet experts, organizations, companies, entrepreneurs, legal experts, journalists, and individuals have repeatedly expressed how dangerous this bill is."

Protests against the bill--and its Senate counterpart, the Protect IP Act--have paid some dividends so far. On Friday, SOPA's sponsor, U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) announced that he was pulling one of the more controversial provisions of the legislation, one that would require Internet service providers to block overseas Web sites accused of piracy.

Subsequently, U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said that he'd been promised that the bill would not be taken up for debate until it was fixed. But today, Smith said that SOPA would be debated again next month."


hahahahasdhsghf. eat a bag of cocks, chris dodd

1/18/2012 8:48:17 AM

Krallum
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This whole bill exists because of riaa dollars. For the record not a single cent won in riaa lawsuits has ever gone to any artist ever. Id rather listen to free sites who skew information that corporate skeezeballs who steal and manipulate the justice system

Also I am bummed google didn't shut down. Actually I am really annoyed

I'm Krallum and I approved this message

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1/18/2012 8:52:14 AM

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1/18/2012 8:58:28 AM

BobbyDigital
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"eat a bag of cocks, chris dodd"

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and not just because he's the MPAA chair. He was a worthless sack of shit while he was a senator as well.

1/18/2012 9:02:20 AM

KyleAtState
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Damn I was wanting to find out more about Wilford Brimley

1/18/2012 9:06:57 AM

wwwebsurfer
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both the NC senators websites are on their knees from the traffic... Took me 30 minutes to submit my protest.

1/18/2012 9:08:31 AM

Smath74
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A kid in my class hasn't done shit all semester, and grades are due tomorrow. I told him he can do a 5 page paper for some credit back, and I knew full well he would have to write that paper today

1/18/2012 9:13:51 AM

sumfoo1
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When the odds are against you....

Make hitler say something funny.

1/18/2012 9:14:14 AM

aimorris
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I'm annoyed too

I've seen the "will Wikipedia come back now that it's gone black???" joke everywhere this morning

1/18/2012 9:40:04 AM

ssclark
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lol same

1/18/2012 9:59:04 AM

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1/18/2012 9:59:38 AM

JBaz
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I didn't know how wiki was going to block their site so I spent the time yesterday downloading a large amount of data into pdf's for simple research topics that I would have thought I would need access to today only to realize that they didn't actually block the website, but put a stupid script that loads at the end of the page load...

I think fail is in order. Both on my end and wiki's cause seriously... I had a whole section about medieval ages up to the 900-1000 and the crusades in case someone made a crack pot joke about the origins of the modern scientific advancements.

1/18/2012 10:19:14 AM

Smath74
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k

1/18/2012 10:20:16 AM

Klatypus
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yea, turns out I needed to do research on a few crustacean families, fucking wikipedia won't tell me about fucking sea monkeys

1/18/2012 10:24:42 AM

adultswim
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^
hit escape a bunch while the page is loading

1/18/2012 10:27:25 AM

Klatypus
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^sweet, thank you, I actually really needed to find relevant biology papers and wiki is usually my groud zero, I have been lost all morning. Thank you adultswim

1/18/2012 10:43:48 AM

JBaz
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umm.. why are you even using that? lib.ncsu.edu has a shit ton of links to proper academic databases and search engines just for this task? even google scholar is pretty good...

1/18/2012 10:45:49 AM

Klatypus
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yes, I know. However the databases are sometimes limited and do not contain everything since the creation of scientific journals, and the crap I am looking for is oooold, also I really use wiki to find titles where the kind of biology info I need can easily be found by following the in text citations and finding the title. clearly reverse research is not your forte, but it is my art that encompasses mutliple databases and search engines, wiki is just one component.

1/18/2012 10:52:37 AM

JBaz
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umm... there's a ton of good academic search engines that link multiple databases together... And yes they do have documents that contain everything from the creation of scientific journals. I should know since I did tons of research papers 6 months ago pertaining to the history of modern science including original scientific journals. I still have a stack of documents I printed that amass about 2000 pages sitting on my desk from the 1600's.

Half the time, the citation on wiki to papers actually kinda suck if you are looking for something really specific, maybe not so for more generic info and broad topics.

1/18/2012 10:59:38 AM

EMCE
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This blackout is great! Ill be able to make shit up all day long, and no one will be able to call me out on it.

1/18/2012 11:13:37 AM

sumfoo1
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:-)

1/18/2012 11:14:48 AM

Biofreak70
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Lol at the Encarta pic

1/18/2012 11:27:50 AM

TreeTwista10
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good thing they didn't shut down torrents

i've been seeding Horrible Bosses and 30 Minutes or Less for the last 16 hours or so

1/18/2012 11:33:20 AM

Grandmaster
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For future reference, you can download wikipedia's entire database and mirror it on a VPS if you wanted to.

1/18/2012 12:07:01 PM

AndyMac
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"call you representative damnit"


My representative is Virginia Foxx

I wouldn't be able to talk to her, or anyone who works for her, or any answering machine in her office, without swearing at her/him/it profusely.

1/18/2012 12:08:37 PM

JBaz
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"This blackout is great! Ill be able to make shit up all day long, and no one will be able to call me out on it."

My thoughts exactly.

Its funny as hell explaining random shit then laugh as others complain that they can't wiki today.

1/18/2012 12:24:11 PM

Str8BacardiL
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I am glad congress is working on bills to help out the recording industry and the motion picture industry, these are clearly the biggest casualties of the recession.

1/18/2012 12:25:35 PM

JBaz
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The biggest reason why movies are failing as entertainment is probably more likely the cause that people are staying home to play video games instead... so we should ban video games now.

1/18/2012 12:33:58 PM

stevedude
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/

1/18/2012 1:03:51 PM

Air
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Just disable flash on your Browser.

PROFIT

1/18/2012 3:07:05 PM

El Nachó
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https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia

1/18/2012 3:13:26 PM

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