Pomeroy has us at 24

10/30/2012 9:56:32 AM

His formula focuses on previous year's results for preseason rankings.

10/30/2012 10:08:54 AM

Man, last year's unis were so awesome. I wish we had kept them.

10/30/2012 10:13:38 AM

4 days until exhibition!!!

10/30/2012 10:27:50 AM

Super secret scrimmage against ECU tonight

10/30/2012 10:53:15 AM

^L?

10/30/2012 11:08:42 AM

#13, Thomas de Thaey, Sophomore - Dendermonde, Belgium

6'8" / 244 lbs., Reserve Forward

10/30/2012 11:31:32 AM

havent seen this video posted yet, so pumped for this season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kTd2ESJL8

10/30/2012 11:37:14 AM

10/30/2012 11:42:02 AM

i saw de thaey at the fair last year. dude looks like he should be an enforcer for the mob.

10/30/2012 11:47:51 AM

A little early to freak out, but the pomeroy rankings putting us at #24 is definitely worrisome.

We simply have to try to play defense this year. We did it late in the season so I'm hoping we can do it this year.

10/30/2012 12:25:17 PM

10/30/2012 12:28:54 PM

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"A little early to freak out"

Prior to exhibition games? Nah. Hell, I'm fretting about our 2015 pre-season rankings already

10/30/2012 12:36:10 PM

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/41252/college-basketball-team-previews-n-c-state

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"st week, we looked at the Dangerous Outsiders, the Royal Blues, and the Title Snipers. See the box below for those links. This week, we turn to four legitimate championship contenders, starting with the Wolfpack of NC State."

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"There's a motto in Raleigh to honor this mind-set, a depressive epithet that waits on the lips of every Wolfpack fan, ready to be uttered at a moment's notice: "NC State shit.""

[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2012 12:46:24 PM

Right, its too early to know anything but its troubling to see unbiased estimators not confirming that our lofty rankings are legitimate.

10/30/2012 12:49:07 PM

it uses last season's results. If, if we can play like we did in the last several games of last season, then the first half of last season is pretty irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that's why we're ranked so high in the polls.

10/30/2012 12:56:43 PM

Confirmed: TDT at Western Blvd Bojangles for lunch today. As I was leaving and he was entering, I didn't see if he ordered a CJ Biscuit, but I imagine his strength will be at an all time high for the scrimmage.

10/30/2012 12:57:17 PM

is it just me or does this look insanely photoshopped?

10/30/2012 1:01:54 PM

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"Because it is literally impossible to be excited about two NC State sports at once "

*loses to unc*

10/30/2012 1:12:06 PM

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" Right, its too early to know anything but its troubling to see unbiased estimators not confirming that our lofty rankings are legitimate."

Well, guys like Jeff Goodman have been to our practice and other team's practices, and are ranking us in the top 10. Kenpom's formula gives more emphasis to last year's results and less emphasis on incoming players. All types of preseason polls are flawed, but I like the fact that guys who have seen us practice are willing to put us in the top 10.

10/30/2012 1:20:16 PM

I agree that we were a better team at the end of last season and that our early season play is probably less accurate than our late season play.

But #24 ain't #6.

Just pointing out again that our expectations are basically the best case scenario , so we shouldnt be upset if we are a top 15-20 team.

10/30/2012 1:36:51 PM

^
Completely agree.

10/30/2012 1:39:31 PM

i won't be, and that's why I'm not "freaking out" at all at a #24 ranking. I almost hate that we're predicted so high in most pre-season polls. It sets up a lot of room for disappointment, especially with all of our irrational fans.

10/30/2012 1:40:22 PM

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"Just pointing out again that our expectations are basically the best case scenario"

i acknowledge this,

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"so we shouldnt be upset if we are a top 15-20 team."

but not this. i'm going to be so upset if we're a 15-20 team at the end of the season.

10/30/2012 1:41:59 PM

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"Well, guys like Jeff Goodman have been to our practice and other team's practices, and are ranking us in the top 10. Kenpom's formula gives more emphasis to last year's results and less emphasis on incoming players. All types of preseason polls are flawed, but I like the fact that guys who have seen us practice are willing to put us in the top 10."

We talkin bout practice again?

Funny you mention CBS Sports, they ranked us #15 and UNC #10. The best part is the analysis from an opposing coach:

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"Quote from an opposing coach in the league: “I think McAdoo is terrific. He doesn’t have a defined game, but he’s a high-energy, great rebounder and he is a great driver for his position. Aside from him, there are a lot of question marks. I don’t think any of those guys are pros. It’s a unique Carolina team. What makes them go are point guards and bigs, and their big guys are different and their point guard is unproven. Paige is really good, but he’s not Kyrie Irving. You’ve got Strickland at the two; that’s a two-guard who doesn’t shoot. You’ve got McAdoo inside; and he doesn’t post up. Joel James could have motor problems. “They’re Carolina, that’s one of the reasons everyone is picking them so high. They have good size, the makings of a good defensive team. They have a wealth of talent, a great coach, a star player and versatility. If Paige can defend, they should be able to pressure people, get into passing lanes. Point guard play is a big key. When Williams had Ray Felton and Ty Lawson and Kendall Marshall, they’re damn good. When you have Larry Drew, you’re not as good. I’m just not sure what their M.O. is. Could this be one of his teams like a few years ago, when last year’s stars were young and they struggled?”"

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/storylist/20512719/22/2012-13-college-basketball-previews/no-10-north-carolina

Call me crazy, but that doesn't sound like a top-10 team to me, unless they are banking on Marcus Paige playing at the level of Felton, Lawson and Marshall. I also continue to maintain that McAdoo is overrated. He's a great athlete who gets steals and runs the floor very well, but he doesn't block shots, he can't post up, and has a very suspect shot. He'll get his baskets in transition like he did last year, but he's not a guy you worry about killing you in the paint. When you consider that they are replacing 2 of the best post defenders in college basketball with McAdoo and raw freshman C Joel James, the drop-off should be substantial.

I just don't see UNC being able to match up with Duke, NC State and FSU in the frontcourt, and it'll keep them from being a top team.

[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM. Reason : 2]

10/30/2012 1:52:54 PM

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"He's a great athlete who gets steals and runs the floor very well, but he doesn't block shots, he can't post up, and has a very suspect shot. "

Who is C.J. Leslie?

Thanks, Alex. I'll take Internet Biscuit Memes for $1200.

10/30/2012 1:54:25 PM

de thaey looks like he's related to andre the giant somehow

10/30/2012 1:55:47 PM

LOL, CJ Leslie can't post up? Doesn't block shots?

Last I checked, Leslie was our best post-up weapon and blocked more shots than anyone on the team, by far. McAdoo, on the other hand, doesn't do either one well. Don't make me dig up stats and shit.

10/30/2012 1:56:38 PM

On Howell:

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" He's joined on the low blocks by Richard Howell, an emotional, 6-foot-8 brick shithouse of a forward/center and a natural rebounder."

10/30/2012 1:58:22 PM

Howell is pretty much the same height as Brown, but I liked the rest of it.

10/30/2012 2:02:39 PM

(I'm looking at a pic of them standing beside each other, and it seems that Howell has a few inches on brown. Howell, De Thaey and Painter are all about the same heigh and have a few inches on Brown. Wood has an inch or so on Brown.)

10/30/2012 2:09:36 PM

Brown is 6'4", Howell is 6'7".

10/30/2012 2:10:49 PM

Yeah I'm wrong about that.

10/30/2012 2:14:52 PM

Even his strengths are weaknesses. oh wait

10/30/2012 3:38:39 PM

^ They should really stop mincing words and just say "not black" under "weaknesses".

10/30/2012 3:44:23 PM

and white/hispanic rather than crafty

10/30/2012 3:47:26 PM

ahahaaha

10/30/2012 3:48:28 PM

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"Just pointing out again that our expectations are basically the best case scenario , so we shouldnt be upset if we are a top 15-20 team."

I think the floor for this team is 3rd in the conference, 4 seed in the tourney & a Sweet 16 return. Obviously the ceiling being to take the ACC & getting to the Final 4 as a 1 seed. I see us being closer to the floor, if not under it (read: NC State Shit)

[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM. Reason : bad grammar]

10/30/2012 5:06:33 PM

I like that. NC State Shit = under the floor

10/30/2012 5:10:59 PM

you can never put a floor on the tournament.

10/30/2012 5:28:49 PM

I would like to take this time to write how goddamn happy I am to be a legitimate program once more. I'm old enough to remember bits and pieces of the Valvano era, most of you have never experienced this.

Treasure it.

10/30/2012 5:32:01 PM

^^I wouldn't have, but let's be honest, if this team doesn't get as far as last year's team, the fanatical NCSU fans will be livid & screaming for a new coach again already

[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ^]

10/30/2012 5:32:42 PM

No they won't shaddup.

10/30/2012 5:33:55 PM

i'm done with the concept of "nc state shit" as it pertains to basketball, at least for now. mark gottfried is the anti-nc state shit. i think we are ready for a new level of optimism.

10/30/2012 5:52:50 PM

Who's going to Saturday' exhibition?

I don't know anything about Belmont Abbey, although I just read that they have a pre-season (Division II) All-American guard. And they play Davidson Thursday night.

Any predictions? I'll say 86-61.

10/30/2012 6:51:34 PM

i'll be there. since i live 2.5 hours away, i have to go to the games my schedule allows for.

10/30/2012 6:59:15 PM

In

10/30/2012 7:10:43 PM

^^^is the game free or tickets needed?

10/30/2012 7:32:21 PM

anyone seen any details leak out of the secret scrimmage?

10/30/2012 7:58:44 PM

free

10/30/2012 8:00:27 PM