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"I guess Colorado would know, since they are rubbing legal mary jane in the face of federal laws."


9 states have legal recreational weed (10 if you include DC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_U.S._jurisdiction

[Edited on October 1, 2018 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2018 5:29:37 PM

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I'm guessing trump on a horse leading the US army into your abortion clinic and putting you in his wagon..

[Edited on October 1, 2018 at 5:53 PM. Reason : Shit didn't realize there was more on this page]

10/1/2018 5:53:25 PM

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Brown v. Board has to be one of the most recent decisions that some states attempted to just ignore. I don’t know all the arm-twisting the federal government did to force integration in all the states, but, for instance, it did culminate in Eisenhower sending the 101st airborne division into Arkansas to force integration (and btw to literally “nationalize” the state’s national guard which had kept the Little Rock Nine from going to school.)


Of course, that was when we still had an executive branch that believed in law and order.

10/1/2018 6:16:58 PM

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Kavanaugh’s former classmates released text messages from July Kavanaugh sent them, to head off the Ramirez story, that Kavanaugh testified he first heard about in September

10/1/2018 6:27:48 PM

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This NBC story looking like a nail in the coffin

10/1/2018 7:14:46 PM

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the text messages are from Yarasavage, not Kavanaugh. It's very possible they knew who was going to make an allegation against him without knowing what the allegation would be until the New Yorker story came out. Unless the text messages were trying to influence future statements, this sounds like standard fact gathering being hyped up as something else by the media.

10/1/2018 7:24:04 PM

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those text messages referred to other texts from Kav. Yes they dont have that 2nd set of texts yet, but the there is someone claiming that texts exist.

10/1/2018 7:30:20 PM

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"Kavanaugh’s former classmates released text messages from July Kavanaugh sent them"


oh yeah?

[Edited on October 1, 2018 at 8:21 PM. Reason : ^ they're not stored on some server somewhere tho...someone who kavanaugh trusts would have to flip]

10/1/2018 8:20:21 PM

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now there's some story about a bar fight in college

[Edited on October 1, 2018 at 8:26 PM. Reason : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html]

10/1/2018 8:25:43 PM

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Lol at eleusis, he should really read the story. What a cuck

10/1/2018 8:45:15 PM

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^^^in a real investigation they could be subpoenaed pretty easily

[Edited on October 1, 2018 at 8:46 PM. Reason : E]

10/1/2018 8:45:54 PM

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takes no time at all to delete a text convo prior to getting subpoenaed

10/1/2018 8:58:22 PM

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"Could the feds just start pulling funding they give to the state if they don't play nice with SC rulings? I've never really wondered this until now, but what means does the federal government, outside of money, have to compel states into following federal law?"


To my understanding, this is why the drinking age is 21 nation wide.

10/1/2018 10:36:17 PM

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I always heard Nancy via Ronald was getting highway finding pulled. South Dakota was the last hold out if I remember correctly.

10/1/2018 10:43:10 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/10/02/kavanaugh-withdraws-teaching-harvard-law-this-winter-graduates-gather-signatures-objecting-his-role/?utm_term=.f1b39a12a627

[Edited on October 2, 2018 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ]

10/2/2018 12:53:06 AM

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So why can't the FBI polygraph some people here?

Oh: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kavanaugh-once-wrote-in-favor-of-polygraphs-now-he-says-theyre-unreliable/2018/10/01/556fc60c-c5ae-11e8-9158-09630a6d8725_story.html

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"Two years ago, a federal court of appeals held that polygraph tests are “an important law enforcement tool” that can help investigators “test the credibility of witnesses” and “screen applicants” for “critical” government positions. The judge who wrote that opinion: Brett M. Kavanaugh.

Last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee asked Kavanaugh whether he would be willing to take a polygraph test regarding the multiple sexual assault allegations he faces as he seeks a seat on the Supreme Court. Considering such a request himself, Kavanaugh departed from his prior judicial opinion and told the Senate that polygraphs are “not reliable.” But still, when pressed by Sen. Kamala D.?Harris (D-Calif.) about taking one, Kavanaugh ultimately said, “I’ll do whatever the committee wants.”"



[Edited on October 2, 2018 at 12:59 AM. Reason : ]

10/2/2018 12:56:55 AM

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Fuck I totally missed Kavanaugh asserting that his yearbook reference of a devil's triangle was a drinking game played by placing three glasses in a triangle.

10/2/2018 1:18:12 AM

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Devil's Triangle aka 3 TKEs 1 Cup

10/2/2018 1:26:07 AM

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"David Brock on NBC: “I used to know Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. And, when I think of Brett now, in the midst of his hearings for a lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court, all I can think of is the old "Aesop's Fables" adage: "A man is known by the company he keeps." And that's why I want to tell any senator who cares about our democracy: Vote no. Twenty years ago, when I was a conservative movement stalwart, I got to know Brett Kavanaugh both professionally and personally. Brett actually makes a cameo appearance in my memoir of my time in the GOP, "Blinded By The Right." I describe him at a party full of zealous young conservatives gathered to watch President Bill Clinton's 1998 State of the Union address — just weeks after the story of his affair with a White House intern had broken. When the TV camera panned to Hillary Clinton, I saw Brett — at the time a key lieutenant of Ken Starr, the independent counsel investigating various Clinton scandals — mouth the word "bitch."
But there's a lot more to know about Kavanaugh than just his Pavlovian response to Hillary's image. Brett and I were part of a close circle of cold, cynical and ambitious hard-right operatives being groomed by GOP elders for much bigger roles in politics, government and media. And it’s those controversial associations that should give members of the Senate and the American public serious pause.
Call it Kavanaugh's cabal: There was his colleague on the Starr investigation, Alex Azar, now the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Mark Paoletta is now chief counsel to Vice President Mike Pence; House anti-Clinton gumshoe Barbara Comstock is now a Republican member of Congress. Future Fox News personalities Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson were there with Ann Coulter, now a best-selling author, and internet provocateur Matt Drudge.
At one time or another, each of them partied at my Georgetown townhouse amid much booze and a thick air of cigar smoke. In a rough division of labor, Kavanaugh played the role of lawyer — one of the sharp young minds recruited by the Federalist Society to infiltrate the federal judiciary with true believers. Through that network, Kavanaugh was mentored by D.C. Appeals Court Judge Laurence Silberman, known among his colleagues for planting leaks in the press for partisan advantage.
When, as I came to know, Kavanaugh took on the role of designated leaker to the press of sensitive information from Starr's operation, we all laughed that Larry had taught him well. (Of course, that sort of political opportunism by a prosecutor is at best unethical, if not illegal.)
Another compatriot was George Conway (now Kellyanne's husband), who led a secretive group of right-wing lawyers — we called them "the elves" — who worked behind the scenes directing the litigation team of Paula Jones, who had sued Clinton for sexual harassment. I knew then that information was flowing quietly from the Jones team via Conway to Starr's office — and also that Conway's go-to man was none other than Brett Kavanaugh.
That critical flow of inside information allowed Starr, in effect, to set a perjury trap for Clinton, laying the foundation for a crazed national political crisis and an unjust impeachment over a consensual affair.
But the cabal's godfather was Ted Olson, the then-future solicitor general for George W. Bush and now a sainted figure of the GOP establishment (and of some liberals for his role in legalizing same-sex marriage). Olson had a largely hidden role as a consigliere to the "Arkansas Project" — a multi-million dollar dirt-digging operation on the Clintons, funded by the eccentric right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife and run through The American Spectator magazine, where I worked at the time.
Both Ted and Brett had what one could only be called an unhealthy obsession with the Clintons — especially Hillary. While Ted was pushing through the Arkansas Project conspiracy theories claiming that Clinton White House lawyer and Hillary friend Vincent Foster was murdered (he committed suicide), Brett was costing taxpayers millions by peddling the same garbage at Starr's office.
A detailed analysis of Kavanaugh's own notes from the Starr Investigation reveals he was cherry-picking random bits of information from the Starr investigation — as well as the multiple previous investigations — attempting vainly to legitimize wild right-wing conspiracies. For years he chased down each one of them without regard to the emotional cost to Foster’s family and friends, or even common decency.
Kavanaugh was not a dispassionate finder of fact but rather an engineer of a political smear campaign. And after decades of that, he expects people to believe he's changed his stripes.
Like millions of Americans this week, I tuned into Kavanaugh's hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee with great interest. In his opening statement and subsequent testimony, Kavanaugh presented himself as a "neutral and impartial arbiter" of the law. Judges, he said, were not players but akin to umpires — objectively calling balls and strikes. Again and again, he stressed his "independence" from partisan political influences.
But I don't need to see any documents to tell you who Kavanaugh is — because I've known him for years. And I'll leave it to all the lawyers to parse Kavanaugh's views on everything from privacy rights to gun rights.
But I can promise you that any pretense of simply being a fair arbiter of the constitutionality of any policy regardless of politics is simply a pretense. He made up his mind nearly a generation ago — and, if he's confirmed, he'll have nearly two generations to impose it upon the rest of us.""

10/2/2018 10:20:04 AM

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Nice try, Brock, but Clinton is still also a rapist.

10/2/2018 10:41:41 AM

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^^That reads just like the right-wing conspiracy theories of who is behind Ford.

And you can't make me believe that there aren't left-wing operatives that have been groomed from a young age out there in the political system as well. What Brock says is either conspiratorial, or common sense, however you want to look at it.

10/2/2018 11:16:51 AM

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Probably true. We should get rid of all of them when they are exposed. Not go along with it because the other side does it too

10/2/2018 11:18:37 AM

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David Brock is 100% untrustworthy. What we already have on Kavanaugh should be plenty to bring him down.

[Edited on October 2, 2018 at 11:19 AM. Reason : .]

10/2/2018 11:19:18 AM

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It won't be. We all know it.

10/2/2018 11:35:25 AM

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"left-wing operatives that have been groomed from a young age out there in the political system as well."


“Being in the political system” is significantly different than being nominated to the Supreme Court.

10/2/2018 11:47:58 AM

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there is no Federalist Society of the left

10/2/2018 12:05:58 PM

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Investigation is done and won't be publicly released.

10/4/2018 12:17:36 AM

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Twatter is saying only one paper copy will be produced and Senators will have to read it in a SCIF????


WTF??? That makes me automatically assume the worst about Kavanaugh.

[Edited on October 4, 2018 at 6:16 AM. Reason : If the report was exculpatory, the GOP would be sending it out in a presidential alert.]

10/4/2018 6:10:59 AM

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Was really hoping to know what the FBI questioned mark judge about for 2 days

10/4/2018 7:30:55 AM

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They interviewed 9 people. That’s it. And didn’t follow up with Ford or Kavanaugh.

It’s for show to give Murkowski and Collins cover and to use to railroad Manchin and Heitkamo into being Yes. He’s going to be confirmed 100% on Sunday.

10/4/2018 7:40:30 AM

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So can we finally admit that Avenatti is essentially a conman who got lucky with a few things? He talked a lot of shit with the third accuser, but didn't really produce anything. Sure the FBI didn't interview her, but she could have gone on the news or he could have produced the witnesses he claimed he had.

10/4/2018 7:43:01 AM

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^I’d still give it a couple days. It’s possible he could produce before the final vote.

10/4/2018 8:05:23 AM

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Final vote is scheduled for Saturday right? Releasing it on a Friday would be largely ignored, so basically needs to be today, and even then, it'll be seen as a last ditch effort and dismissed. The time to play his hand was Monday.

10/4/2018 8:07:01 AM

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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/653991555/senators-reviewing-fbi-report-on-kavanaugh-ahead-of-friday-vote?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202804

Only one copy available. 10 minute alternating shifts? What the fuck is this?

[Edited on October 4, 2018 at 10:20 AM. Reason : derp]

10/4/2018 10:20:37 AM

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You know what this is.

It was fun while it lasted.

10/4/2018 10:42:03 AM

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^^^ Ignored? Nothing is getting ignored these days about this mess. The vote last week on Friday was hardly ignored. Though I agree with you that he likely has nothing this time and his bombshell fizzled

I should say, lots has been ignored about Kavanaugh, but anything new that pops between now and the vote won't be.

[Edited on October 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM. Reason : ..]

10/4/2018 11:43:28 AM

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It was inevitable but sure seems Flake and Collins are satisfied.

10/4/2018 11:44:05 AM

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None of this is surprising, and now it’s pretty clear why Trump waged the personal attacks on Ford: he knew he could get away with it and suffer no real consequences, while energizing his scummy base.

10/4/2018 12:15:45 PM

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Protests already spinning up

There’s a vigil in Raleigh at 6pm too

10/4/2018 3:52:16 PM

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"watter is saying only one paper copy will be produced and Senators will have to read it in a SCIF????


WTF??? That makes me automatically assume the worst about Kavanaugh."


What if I told you this practice was actually instituted by Obama and Leahy back in 2009? Settle down people.

10/4/2018 4:34:19 PM

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I’d ask for a citation.

10/4/2018 6:49:43 PM

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Lol, an op-Ed for being too emotional? JFC, if a woman did that... whooooo boy.

10/4/2018 8:27:06 PM

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Kinda seems like a closet-case alcoholic, all things considered. But i'm glad dear little Liza said her prayers and her dry drunk dad will get to make decisions about her body for her and half the population for the next 30-35 years.

10/5/2018 2:43:39 AM

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"Kinda seems like a closet-case alcoholic"

Is this your clinical diagnosis? Seems legit.

10/5/2018 10:18:50 AM

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^^Has he been pro-life in the past? I thought he said that he's big on precedent. I guess that doesn't matter if you can't trust him. What are other policy issues that make Kavanaugh problematic for you?

I don't like his stance on executive power, that's for sure. That pendulum can swing both ways.

10/5/2018 11:49:28 AM

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Every nominee is “big on precedent” and “settled law”.

Right up until they aren’t.

(At some point the country will need to have a reckoning considering every major institution is now run by a counter-majority. This can’t go on forever).

[Edited on October 5, 2018 at 12:21 PM. Reason : X]

10/5/2018 12:20:17 PM

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CNN reporting they don't have the votes as of this morning ("according to sources close to" yada) but I don't trust them at all.

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naw man. i mean he can say whatever he wants, but he doesn't actually respect precedent.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/06/scotus-nom-brett-kavanaugh-challenged-roe-v-wade-precedent-said-court-can-always-overrule.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/kavanaugh-confirmation-hearing-roe-heller.html

10/5/2018 12:56:09 PM

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Flake's at yes, so basically it comes down to Collins and Manchin voting no right now. Collins is announcing at 3

10/5/2018 1:10:37 PM

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This Collins statement is some grandstanding bullshit

10/5/2018 3:18:30 PM

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it's over...the worst states can continue their downward spirals, congratulations

10/5/2018 3:54:01 PM

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