Reminder that Stand Your Ground only works if you're not a Black person

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xGgAVtn42k

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"It took nearly a year’s worth of violent physical abuse before Marissa Alexander decided to stand her ground against her husband. On Aug. 1, 2010, her husband cornered her in their Jacksonville, Fla., home. Alexander said she ran to the garage to escape, but the garage door was jammed, so Alexander grabbed a pistol. Her husband, Rico Gray, 36, saw the gun and threatened to kill her, Alexander would later say in court documents. Fearing for her life, she raised the pistol above her head and squeezed the trigger, the crackle of gunfire pelting the kitchen ceiling. While the shooting may have gotten Alexander out of one jam, it put her in another: She has been in a Florida jail since 2010 awaiting a mandatory sentence of 20 years in prison for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/marissa-alexander-florida-stand-your-ground_n_1472647.html

5/8/2012 2:16:34 PM

ntlb

5/8/2012 2:16:41 PM

A warning shot is not "standing your ground".

5/8/2012 2:18:15 PM

sounds like something else pelted the kitchen ceiling

5/8/2012 2:20:00 PM

If Florida fell into the ocean, no one would care.

5/8/2012 2:20:05 PM

^

5/8/2012 2:20:48 PM

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"In Florida, anyone who pulls a gun during a crime receives a mandatory 10-year sentence. Firing a gun during the commission of a crime equals a mandatory 20-year sentence. Anyone convicted of shooting and killing another person during a crime is sentenced to 25 to life in prison."

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"That day in August, Gray became enraged when he went through Alexander’s cell phone and found messages to her ex-husband, who remained her close friend. "I told her if she ever cheated on me, I would kill her," Gray said in a deposition. "If my kids weren't there, I knew I probably would have tried to take the gun from her," he said of the shooting incident. "If my kids wouldn't have been there, I probably would have put my hand on her." "I got five baby-mamas and I put my hands on every last one of them except for one.""

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 2:27 PM. Reason : wow]

5/8/2012 2:25:10 PM

here to confuse RabbleRabble by posting under him

5/8/2012 2:32:02 PM

Guy sounds like a keeper.

5/8/2012 2:34:32 PM

damn it wolfpackgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

u messed it up





[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM. Reason : now we gotta start over again]

5/8/2012 2:35:40 PM

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"If Florida fell into the ocean, no one would care."

can south florida stay

5/8/2012 2:41:08 PM

wait so if she had shot him with the gun would she be in less trouble?

5/8/2012 2:44:55 PM

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""I got five baby-mamas and I put my hands on every last one of them except for one.""

5/8/2012 2:50:11 PM

^^ Seems that way.

5/8/2012 2:53:25 PM

oh. that article is poorly worded.

5/8/2012 3:02:00 PM

If the shot was fired in the kitchen, it goes to prove that she was where she was supposed to be and that her husband was the one in the wrong.

Case dismissed.

5/8/2012 3:02:17 PM

The way I've understood such laws to work, if you're firing a warning shot, then you "don't have the fear of imminent danger or death". The law is such that you use deadly force as a last resort and you use it to stop the threat. Not to scare it, not to hurt it, but to end it. I don't know if that's the basic reasoning behind this case, but this simple explanation has been passed around before. Of course, some of you lefties have problems with this because you say it's shoot to kill, which it is, and isn't. You're shooting to stop the immediate threat. Injury or death are side effects of that. Of course, do you want people randomly firing warning shots or trying to cap a knee? That's how bystanders get hurt.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2012 3:03:28 PM

Let me see if I have things figured out here:

-Firing a warning shot inside your own house at a man who beat you for a year when he threatened you? 20 years in prison.

-Firing a shot outdoors in the middle of a neighborhood into the chest of a 17 year old you chased down? Innocent.

5/8/2012 3:17:51 PM

- If she suffered such violent physical abuse she should have been far away with a restraining order to fall back on if he tries to come into contact her.
- Sounds like really good gun control to live in a house with children where it's easier to find a gun than an exit.
- Firing a warning shot inside a house is not a safe alternative to firing at an actual target. Bullets can go through ceilings and into the rooms above in a two story home. They could have ricocheted and injured herself or her children.

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"Let me see if I have things figured out here: -Firing a warning shot inside your own house at a man who beat you for a year when he threatened you? 20 years in prison."

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"A warning shot is not "standing your ground"."

True on both accounts.

5/8/2012 3:31:05 PM

Yeah, I guess it's much easier to hit a moving person than a ceiling.

5/8/2012 3:34:01 PM

all God sees are colors

5/8/2012 3:35:48 PM

and apparently a bullet heading his way that night

guess he wasn't too happy about it

5/8/2012 3:41:27 PM

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"Yeah, I guess it's much easier to hit a moving person than a ceiling."

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"Bullets can go through ceilings and into the rooms above in a two story home. They could have ricocheted and injured herself or her children."

Look man...The law is generally pretty clear on when and where you can fire. If your life is in danger and you didn't instigate the conflict then go for it. You're still responsible for your bullets, so plan to be charged if one of your wild bullets injures or kills an innocent person. Zimmerman obviously didn't hit anyone or anything except his intended target so you might as well drop the argument about firing shots indoors versus in the middle of a neighborhood.

Warning shots are a big "no-no" just about anywhere. If you're going to have guns in your home and you're going to rely on them to defend yourself you should take the time to learn the laws regarding their usage. She obviously didn't do this and that's why she is in jail today.

Do I sympathize with her? ABSOLUTELY.
Do I think she's a bad person? NOT AT ALL.
Did she make a big mistake that could have had very bad consequences...Yes sir.

5/8/2012 3:46:55 PM

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"- Sounds like really good gun control to live in a house with children where it's easier to find a gun than an exit. "

Running from someone threatening to kill you always works out well

5/8/2012 4:13:47 PM

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"all God sees are colors"

5/8/2012 4:15:42 PM

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"Zimmerman obviously didn't hit anyone or anything except his intended target so you might as well drop the argument about firing shots indoors versus in the middle of a neighborhood."

Ahh, so as long as you kill the person you were trying to kill, there's no chance you were endangering other people in the neighborhood?

I'll remember that.

5/8/2012 4:28:20 PM

ITT film studies dropouts try to impress us by repeating some shit they read on somethingawful

5/8/2012 4:30:11 PM

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"If Florida fell into the ocean, no one would care. "

this saying is typically associated with California.

i think it's funny because these are the only states with a disney theme part.

5/8/2012 4:31:35 PM

ITT Ernie talks out of his ass

5/8/2012 4:34:12 PM

Tell us more, learned one

5/8/2012 4:38:23 PM

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"But moments after the shooting, Gray ran outside and called police alleging that Alexander shot at him and his two sons. Alexander was arrested and charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Gray later changed his story about the shooting. During a court hearing to determine whether or not Alexander could be protected under the Stand Your Ground Law, Gray said he'd lied during his earlier deposition and that he "begged and pleaded for my life when she had the gun.""

God, have you no sympathy for a black man begging for his life? Wow, you are the worst.

5/8/2012 4:46:40 PM

lol

5/8/2012 4:52:41 PM

he really is a sick, racist, POS.

5/8/2012 5:05:30 PM

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"Ahh, so as long as you kill the person you were trying to kill, there's no chance you were endangering other people in the neighborhood? I'll remember that."

The law says that you can fire a weapon to save your own life. If you are negligent in the discharge and hit an innocent person you can expect to be charged with manslaughter. Pretty good motivation not to fire a weapon unless you really are saving a life, eh?

You can also swerve your car to avoid a dog without being charged with reckless driving, but as soon as you take out a row of parked cars you'll probably be at fault.

Plz remember that.

5/8/2012 6:24:24 PM

I had really hoped this pond scum had killed himself after that /wrist diatribe he posted.

Jesus some days you think the world improves then you realize it was just a dream.

5/8/2012 6:27:43 PM

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"If Florida fell into the ocean, no one would care."

I would. What happens to the Southeast Division? And Disney World? And all the bikini-clad homeless women?

5/8/2012 6:28:48 PM

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"Alexander had given birth just nine days before the 2010 shooting. The couple had been married three months, but since early in their relationship, Gray had choked, pushed and beaten her, Alexander’s family told HuffPost. Gray was arrested a year prior to the shooting incident for an attack that put Alexander in the hospital."

5/11/2012 10:53:00 PM