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"this thread and all of these ppl who think they are smarter than GeniuSxBoy by posting in this thread to tell him they are smarter than GeniuSxBoy brings the LULZ Bullet, JaZon, IMStoned420, Dammit100, keep making a difference"

i'll do what i can. thank you for your support. Can I count on your vote this November?

6/27/2012 12:41:13 PM

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"^^^ do you notice that the only libertarian who is treated like a prick douche is GxBoy? It's not because he's libertarian it's because he's a dumb prick douche."

Using one of GxB's own lame ass gimmicks, we don't THINK we're smarter than him. We KNOW we're smarter than him.

6/27/2012 12:49:07 PM

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"do you notice that the only libertarian who is treated like a prick douche is GxBoy? It's not because he's libertarian it's because he's a dumb prick douche."

Funny, because I'm not a libertarian.

I've been called a communist, socialist, democrat, republican, libertarian, and every other title in the book. I can't be all of them, or even two of them but I can certainly be none of them all at once.

If you want to insult me by calling me a 'bad word', call me an American. Not the American you assume I'm talking about by being born on an American continent, I'm talking about the American born from the United States of America's constitution and declared in the Declaration of Independence.

Yes, true Americans have dumb prick douche attitudes to those who oppose their ideas of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

[Edited on June 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2012 3:48:08 PM

Ron Paul is a libertarian.

6/28/2012 2:10:03 AM

Ron Paul is a libertarian.

6/28/2012 2:10:03 AM

6/28/2012 3:00:47 AM

I have to assume this was done on Sept 11 intentionally. If so, it's a pretty big fuck you. I wonder if/how the state dept reacts

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/world/meast/egpyt-us-embassy-protests/index.html

9/11/2012 8:04:46 PM

^

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"Islamists, angered by a film they say defames the prophet Mohammed,"

"a film"

You notice the grade A investigative journalism in the parentheses?

9/11/2012 9:10:32 PM

what i'm saying is

they could have protested the film any day. yesterday for example. or tomorrow even. they protested today. unless their organizers and participants are completely ignorant of the most significant national day of morning of the country they are protesting against, it would seem to me that they picked today intentionally.

make sense now?

[Edited on September 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM. Reason : also, reports that the US consulate in Benghazi was set on fire by protesters as well]

9/11/2012 9:25:06 PM

^^Do you mean quotes (not parentheses)? What are you getting at?

Anyone seen the "film" yet? Supposedly it's on youtube.

9/11/2012 10:14:34 PM

That's the point I'm trying to make. There is no name to go with the film to find the film on youtube

9/11/2012 10:25:08 PM

Ok, I see your point. You should have just said it.

9/11/2012 10:36:47 PM

If I just come out and say it, there is no room left for the person to think for themselves to come to the same conclusion.

9/11/2012 10:39:21 PM

Haha, ok man. But why say "parentheses" instead of "quotes"?

9/11/2012 10:41:28 PM

Man, fuck these guys. It's historically accurate to say that Mohammed was a pedophile. He had an 8 year old wife. It's historically accurate to say that he was a bloodthirsty leader. So were most of the old testament leaders from the bible.

If you can't deal with things being drawn from your own holy text and from events in history maybe it's time to reconsider your religious beliefs.

Catholics get pissed off all the time when people ridicule them for their institutional cover up and being complicit in the molestation of children, but you don't see them storming newspaper offices.

9/11/2012 10:58:45 PM

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/07/13686562-the-arab-spring-is-dead-and-syria-is-writing-its-obituary

posted this on FB the other day; originally stole it from JCASHFAN's FB.

9/11/2012 11:16:05 PM

looks like some folks got the reaction they wanted, screw the extremists on both sides...

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"A a 14-minute trailer for the English-language film, which was posted on YouTube in July, attracted little attention until last week, when a version dubbed into Arabic was posted on the same YouTube channel and then copied and viewed tens of thousands of times more. Although there was initial confusion about who made the film, The Wall Street Journal reported that the drama, titled “Innocence of Muslims,” was produced and directed by an Israeli-American, Sam Bacile, a California real-estate developer who called Islam “a cancer,” in an interview. Mr. Bacile told The Journal that he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors and shot the two-hour movie in California last year. "

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/obscure-film-mocking-muslim-prophet-sparks-anti-u-s-protests-in-egypt-and-libya/

9/11/2012 11:41:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4
This is a $5 million dollar move?

9/12/2012 8:52:10 AM

All the protesters have done is bring this stupid movie to the attention of the world. Now millions will see this ridiculous movie.

9/12/2012 9:10:57 AM

Look at the pants on this guy



Queers for Ethnic Cleansing

9/12/2012 11:03:32 AM

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"I have to assume this was done on Sept 11 intentionally. If so, it's a pretty big fuck you. I wonder if/how the state dept reacts "

i still can't believe how little has been made of the fact that these attacks, especially since we now believe were intentionally planned and not the result of spontaneous rioting

[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM. Reason : i mean, on the one hand, it's good we didn't over-react, but still a lil shocking]

10/16/2012 10:48:42 PM

Message from an Egyptian protester today.

12/4/2012 9:29:32 PM

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"i still can't believe how little has been made of the fact that these attacks, especially since we now believe were intentionally planned and not the result of spontaneous rioting"

What shocking about it? There have been planned attacks on our embassies/consulates for decades. There were 12 during Bush's two terms alone, with over 50 dead total. I can't believe how little has been made of THAT fact while Republicans are crying to the high heavens about four dead in Benghazi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities


[Edited on December 5, 2012 at 2:55 PM. Reason : It's almost as though the credibility of the GOP relies on pretending 2000-2008 never happened.]

12/5/2012 2:54:24 PM

7/2/2013 5:26:51 PM

pew pew
pew pew

7/2/2013 6:00:22 PM

Attempted lynching of Muslim Brotherhood supporter by anti-MB protesters:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/02/muslim-brotherhood-supporter-lynched-in-cairo-in-broad-daylight-video/

pics of cairo







[Edited on July 3, 2013 at 9:46 AM. Reason : ]

7/3/2013 9:46:00 AM

Looks like they got what they wanted, a coup! Wait... that doesn't sound right.

It's sad that their push for democracy has been unraveled

7/3/2013 1:05:06 PM

Military 'overthrow'

7/3/2013 3:13:27 PM

So is this good or bad? Someone do my thinking for me on this one please.

7/3/2013 3:24:29 PM

Good? I mean, they democratically elected Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood into power before so I'm not super clear that it won't just happen again. According to http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/world_news&id=9160490 the military has stated they're not interested in long term rule so new elections should be in order in the coming months.

7/3/2013 3:51:11 PM

I also need to know who to root for.

There are obviously two sides, but the concern is that the different sides are just starting to represent different political affiliations. In the US, we can easily dismiss most protests as being liberal or conservative, particularly since just about every such gathering has a counterpart advocating a different thing.

I don't know how true it is, but some have painted Egypt's situation in this light... to some extent. There are people go take to the streets in support of Morsi. Worse still, some of those people may be afraid to protest for fear of being lynched.

We have a valid Democratic argument that terms should be served to their completion. But AFIK, the guy and his party have been doing power grabs, which involve rewriting the rules to give themselves more power. There's no democratic remedy for people rewriting the rules to be less democratic. Not to mention, in many Democratic political systems it's perfectly valid to call for new, unscheduled, elections.

Protesting over and over again until you get the outcome you want from the election isn't admirable either. I don't see strong enough evidence to support this right now. I'm confused about the loyalties to "the revolution" versus the Muslim Brotherhood.

7/3/2013 3:59:59 PM

haven't really dug far into this, but my initial thought is that this might be good in the short term, in that an islamist government was deposed and the overthrow was aimed at getting a more pluralistic, or at least accommodating, government into power.

long term, i'm concerned about the impact on the legitimacy of their government and the "process". Are they just going to keep doing this every time a government gets unpopular?

7/3/2013 4:34:56 PM

This is bad, a coup is bad

7/3/2013 4:46:14 PM

It really has to be viewed as a three way power struggle, not two. You have Morsi and his supporters who have the "democratic mandate" but can't seem to run the country. You have liberal protestors who are more ideologically aligned with the West but aren't strong enough to challenge Morsi alone. You finally have a military that is getting sick and tired of watching the nation's economy and political system grinding to a halt while the situation around them further deteriorates. So the third party steps back in and decides to "restore order", but they're not really sure what to do next.

7/3/2013 6:04:07 PM

Military "suspended the constitution"

7/3/2013 7:55:55 PM

Seems like the Muslim Brotherhood would fight this decision a little more than they are. Are they just prepared to run another candidate and win again?

7/3/2013 8:04:19 PM

Fight the military? The military has just been waiting to take control again.

7/3/2013 9:04:38 PM

ehh.. the egyptian military is pretty respected for it's history of answering to what it feels is the will of the people, rather than the government.

They kind of have their shit together in that aspect.

I suppose it sort of IS a one-up on the US military which sort of dropped the "of the people" creed when the hippies started blaming them for what they were told to do. Nam was a bad war in a great many ways. The "us" and "them" (military/civilian) separatism didn't go into full swing till after that east coast ivy league fueled fiasco.

Such division is not nearly as present in the egyptian miliatry. It actually mirrors Israel in that regard.

So don't get your hopes up about a new warlord reigning over egypt. And I know you have your hopes up.

7/3/2013 9:38:50 PM

Obama and dtownral seem to be in agreement on this one.

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"In Washington, President Barack Obama said the United States is "deeply concerned" by Morsy's removal and the suspension of the constitution."

Although... I'm not sure how convincing I find either of those characters.

7/3/2013 9:55:39 PM

Favorite poster.
Liars. Shit!!!

7/3/2013 10:49:42 PM

Ann Patterson attended graduate school at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

oh, UNC, you aren't Ivy League. Stop training people to overthrow legitimate governments. You don't even offer degrees in vagina awareness.

7/4/2013 11:00:34 AM

Democracy can't flourish when you have a military that is willing to remove a legitimately elected government. The people want Morsy out, but as long as the military is willing to commit a coup every couple of years Egypt won't really be a country ruled by a constitutional government of any kind.

7/4/2013 11:38:24 AM

^^^sorry for the chit-chat, but that poster reminded me of this scene in office space

7/4/2013 12:06:41 PM

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"Democracy can't flourish when you have a military that is willing to remove a legitimately elected government. The people want Morsy out, but as long as the military is willing to commit a coup every couple of years Egypt won't really be a country ruled by a constitutional government of any kind."

I thought the problem was the Morsi was ignoring and rewriting the constitution to give his party more permanent, undemocratic power.

7/4/2013 12:10:20 PM

^^ that's exactly the voice I read that sign in, haha

7/4/2013 12:49:32 PM

So the answer to that is to throw out the constitution and democracy entirely and let the military take control? No.

The protesters had good cause to be angry, their grievances had merit. However nothing about the military taking over is good, it un-writes any progress that was made. When you set the precedent that the military is a check and balance to the government, that it has veto power, very bad things happen. Just look at the history of most of South America. Obama has to make that statement, but I'm not sure if its how his administration really feels. It's in our interest to let the American supplied military to remove an Islamist government.

Here is a good read:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/06/14/egyptians_the_army_is_not_your_quick_fix

7/4/2013 12:57:17 PM

Nah. The egyptian army is more a buffer at this point. They do things like use human reasoning and other crazy shit salon doesn't write about.

7/4/2013 1:11:59 PM

I don't see much bad if they move on to have Democratic elections.

Does anyone maintain that there's a good chance that this won't lead to free and fair elections? I guess that would be a valid position, but time will tell.

Otherwise, I strain to see the hazard. I guess it's possible that Egypt goes through another cycle of elected officials, and the military removes them on their own. But I don't know if this is what people are worrying about.

7/4/2013 2:23:32 PM

Morsi was elected in military protected free and fair elections

list the examples of the military overthrowing a democratically elected government going well, then list them going very poorly. One list is much much longer than the other

[Edited on July 4, 2013 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

7/4/2013 2:58:57 PM

True. But this is an exception to that generality. It sorta pisses you off a little too doesn't it?

7/4/2013 6:59:49 PM