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"“It’s about grooming and cleanliness,” said Elizabeth Harrison, an Upper West Side mother and a founder of a public relations firm, who took the older of two daughters, Charlotte, for a full leg and moderate bikini wax last year at age 12 before she left for camp in Maine. “Last summer, she started to sort of say, ‘I’ve got a lot of hair on my legs.’ It seemed like a natural and smart thing to do so she wouldn’t have to worry.” Maggie Santos, the manager at J. Sisters, a Midtown salon specializing in waxing, said that about 40 percent of hair-removal services in late May and the first few weeks of June are for clients younger than 16. Kimara Ahnert, who runs a salon bearing her name on Madison Avenue, said that she is seeing not only an influx of moms bringing daughters in for precamp hair removal or eyebrow shaping, but also the occasional son for a facial or a quick wax over the nose to separate the dreaded unibrow."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/fashion/off-to-camp-but-first-a-wax.html?_r=3&ref=fashion

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"Uni K Waxing Offering Waxing Deal For Young Girls Ages 15 And Under In New York City (PHOTO) (POLL)"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/uni-k-waxing-deal-young-girls_n_1653591.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

Bad idea.

7/6/2012 10:38:58 PM

I don't think that there is anything wrong with girls that age waxing, but I do think that the stipulation on the ad is a horrid idea.

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:02 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2012 10:43:31 PM

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. If they want to do it voluntarily, let them do it.

7/6/2012 10:46:07 PM

it's like wearing nothing at all...at all..at all...at all....

7/6/2012 10:53:37 PM

I think DNL is licensed to do this.



LOL

7/6/2012 10:57:27 PM

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"If they want to do it voluntarily, let them do it."

Except the mother in the first quote sounds like she's forcing the idea on the kid instead of shaving.

7/6/2012 10:59:45 PM

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WOMENZ

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:01 PM. Reason : df]

7/6/2012 11:00:52 PM

selling it as "cleanliness" is a bunch of bullshit

but if they really want to get it done, whatever, it's their [relatively new] bush

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:02 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2012 11:01:12 PM

now now now this is a much better idea: http://www.sephora.com/flash-go-permanent-hair-removal-device-P300901

7/6/2012 11:06:39 PM

^ i looked into those

you're not supposed to use them on genital areas

as for girls waxing. if they want to who fucking cares. they're just going to shave it if you don't let them wax

they should have to pay for it themselves though. that shit is expensive.

7/6/2012 11:09:23 PM

I think that "cleanliness" is poor word choice, but I do think that it is about grooming AND modesty. I think that it is very inappropriate for a young girl to flash pubic hair while in a swim suit. Some girls will grow pubic hair that will show in even the tamest and suitable of pool attire. And I think that the display of pubic hair on a 13 or 14 year old girl sexualizes them and unless you're going to outfit them in a wet suit at the pool, allowing them to do something about their pubic hair is really the modest thing to do.

7/6/2012 11:13:40 PM

^^^more than half of the reviews said it doesn't work.

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2012 11:13:41 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/08/09/girls.starting.puberty.early/index.html

7/6/2012 11:17:02 PM

^^^ Get this modesty bullshit out of here. It's one thing to worry about a kid getting mocked by her peers, but it's not a kid's business to worry about what a prude thinks.

7/6/2012 11:24:20 PM

Well, maybe modesty isn't the right word either. But I sure as hell don't want some 45 year old creeper looking at my little girl's pubes. It's not a matter of being a prude. It's a matter of not wanting other adults to look at my 12 year old in a sexual manner.

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2012 11:26:47 PM

I don't care how old they are, I don't want to see bush sticking out of a bathing suit.

7/6/2012 11:37:08 PM

this thread is useless without pics.

7/6/2012 11:38:16 PM

^^^
I kinda think that allowing her to wax her pubes will "sexualize" her just as much, if not more, than allowing her to more or less unknowingly flash those pubes at the pool

it's totally understandable and right that you don't want creepers looking at her bush...but it seems to me that bush-waxing at that age is a rather early and rather large step in a sexual direction. perhaps better, on the whole, just to leave it be.

also, bush-waxing at twelve might foster a sense of sexual shame in her, which could fuck her up and turn her into a reactionary slut later on...although admittedly this is just speculation.



[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 11:43 PM. Reason : ^]

7/6/2012 11:38:37 PM

guys what are we talking about here? we're talking about waxing. not implants, not botox, but waxing.

7/6/2012 11:56:07 PM

Boys laughing and pointing at exposed pubic hair could also "foster a sense of sexual shame in her."


At 11 years old kids were making fun of me because I had hairy arms and legs. I went home and shaved my arms and legs, cut the fuck out of myself, and ultimately made it worse because it all started growing back coarse instead of the fine hair that was there.

12 years old is definitely old enough to start waxing in my opinion. It will also make waxing easier in the long run if you never start shaving.


[Edited on July 7, 2012 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .]

7/6/2012 11:57:34 PM

I should distinguish between allowing her to wax (which is what I said) and actually forcing her to wax/making a big thing out of it (which is what I really meant)

if she wants to wax, then let her wax. if she is too young/mentally prepubescent/generally naive to realize or care that a few pubes are visible, and her bush isn't big and conspicuous and overly hairy, then she shouldn't be forced to wax.

7/7/2012 12:34:34 AM

BB's wet dream come true.

7/7/2012 1:22:37 AM

This reminds me, I bought an at home wax kit recently. Im sure my best friend and I will giggle like our middle school selves trying to use it

7/7/2012 1:45:31 AM

Waxing a girl that age has precisely zero to do with sexualization unless you make it that way. If that's what makes eveyone comfortable and potentially saves her some grief from her peers, I say go for it. Because basically,

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"I don't care how old they are, I don't want to see bush sticking out of a bathing suit."

7/7/2012 1:49:25 AM

Bump

7/7/2012 3:19:38 AM

something something about grass on the playing field

7/7/2012 8:24:33 AM

Why is everyone freaking out here? They're talking about a bikini wax, not a full on Brazilian.

With girls starting puberty anywhere between 8-11 it makes sense for them to start shaving or waxing their legs and bikini area once they have hair and they will be wearing something that could possibly have pubes poking out of it.

7/7/2012 9:51:27 AM

i find it interesting that the males are outraged but all the women are in agreement

for the record, i started shaving my legs in 5th grade (that's 12 right?) it's a pretty standard time, especially because the boobs start coming in. something about having to wear a bra every day but not being allowed to shave your legs is just weird to me.

and as far as taking care of hair along the bikini line, i think a 'modest' wax is perfectly fine. it took me years to master the razor on my legs (and i have terrible scars from my early shaving years) there is no way in hell i'd have been successful at shaving the bikini area myself at that age. then again, i have no idea how old i was when i started maintaining that area but as others have said, hair is different on everyone

7/7/2012 10:02:10 AM

do whatever the hell you want to with your vag

7/7/2012 10:07:33 AM

^^ I bet its because the males are thinking of Brazilian waxes, which are sexualized, instead of a bikini wax, just cleaning around the edges so it doesn't look gross.

7/7/2012 10:11:12 AM

^ i think you're right

to clarify for the men:

brazilian = the whole shebang

bikini = generally the area on either side of the vag. no one wants to see hair creepin down toward the thighs amirite?? also this area can be extremely sensitive to razor burn due to the sensitivity & thinness of the skin so waxing is usually preferred if you have issues

7/7/2012 10:16:41 AM

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"i find it interesting that the males are outraged but all the women are in agreement "

i find it interesting that you DIDN'T EVEN READ THE COMMENTS MADE BY MEN, fuckin' skank.

7/7/2012 12:04:34 PM

these NY socialites are hairier than you and me

have you noticed this?

7/7/2012 12:38:37 PM

I don't see this as any different than shaving.

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"Well, maybe modesty isn't the right word either. But I sure as hell don't want some 45 year old creeper looking at my little girl's pubes. It's not a matter of being a prude. It's a matter of not wanting other adults to look at my 12 year old in a sexual manner."

If you're really worried about it, they sell bathing suits with attached skirts or two piece suits where the bottoms are basically shorts. Both of those things are more modest than waxing.

7/7/2012 12:41:59 PM

so is the burqa

7/7/2012 12:46:07 PM

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"But I sure as hell don't want some 45 year old creeper looking at my little girl's pubes."

I hate when people use examples of shit that happens in all scenarios and acts like it's preventable.


Little girl with pubes: 45 year old creeper looks and sees pubes
Little girl without pubes. 45 year old creeper looks and sees no pubes.

Oh look... 45 year old creeper is always looking regardless of whatever the fuck you're gonna do.

Cry about it and slit your wrist! It's okay! Do it, faggot.

[Edited on July 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/7/2012 12:47:24 PM

^thats probably my favorite post of yours

7/7/2012 1:43:05 PM

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"At 11 years old kids were making fun of me because I had hairy arms and legs. I went home and shaved my arms and legs, cut the fuck out of myself, and ultimately made it worse because it all started growing back coarse instead of the fine hair that was there. 12 years old is definitely old enough to start waxing in my opinion. It will also make waxing easier in the long run if you never start shaving. "

...the fuck?

You actually believe that old wive's tale that shaving causes hair to grow back coarser and thicker?

7/7/2012 3:26:52 PM

wise tale?

7/7/2012 3:30:48 PM

I didn't know all these things were possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilianwax

7/7/2012 4:12:38 PM

Keep your teen and preteen girls away from bigcementpond and parebol

7/7/2012 7:09:07 PM

1. Very few young people actually have curly, coarse hair sticking out of their swimsuit or growing down their thighs at age 12 or 13.

2. Young people are totally capable of trimming and shaving the hair on their own legs and pubic area. The exceptions to this include young people who have not been taught/told how to do it and young people who have some kind of motor disability.

3. Waxing (at a salon) costs a fair amount of money. Also, waxing that area involves exposing yourself to an adult who is not a trained medical professional.

Forty years ago there was genuine debate about whether or not we even needed to worry so much about the hair on our bodies. Thirty years ago, many parents still enforced a "no earrings" until high school rule, and kids would have to get all stupid trying to pierce their own ears. Fifteen years ago, your average adult wasn't even sure about shaving too much in that area, let alone having a stranger wax it. But now we're just giving forty bucks to our middle schoolers and driving them to get their vag areas waxed? Have we lost our minds?

Obviously, I think we should let kids be kids. But, if you guys have it your way, and we're going to do away with the extended childhood thing, then we need to do away with it entirely. You can't have your 13 year-olds running around acting like immature idiots and keeping up with their vag waxing appointments like they're in a new relationship with some great guy from work. There may be a teeny, tiny handful of stubborn, persistent cases that require a major intervention like waxing, but anybody who thinks this should be commonplace is completely crazy. I feel sorry for anyone who is so ashamed of their pubic hair that they'd think it's reasonable to wax a child's private area.

[Edited on July 7, 2012 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ALL OF YOU ARE CRAZY.]

7/7/2012 10:04:55 PM

100 years ago, 5 year olds were in factories.


TIME FOR THOSE LITTLE BRATS TO GET BACK TO WORK!

7/7/2012 10:10:45 PM

AHA, I'm just tryna put this craziness in context.

For a gajillion years, we all got through adolescence without having strangers wax our privates, but all of the sudden, it's totally reasonable for 13 year-olds to hit up the salon for a pre-camp bikini job.

I mean, they're going to camp. They're not even counselors. They're campers who are gonna make beaded necklaces and sing songs about friendship...and they need their private region waxed?

(If they did actually work in factories like adults, then they could wax whatever they wanted. But we can't keep them as children while simultaneously imposing all our adult crap on them.)

7/7/2012 10:34:42 PM

Kids are cruel.

I went to camp. I got made fun of all week for wearing a shirt that said "DICKIES"

I had no idea dickies was a brand...I was 12/13ish. That was also the year I learned how to say fuck you. Had a great time shooting skeet though.

The swimsuits are more revealing now than they have been in centuries. I support parents talking about things like this.]

7/7/2012 10:41:16 PM

Yes, but for the vast majority of young people, waxing (at the salon) is not necessary to get rid of "embarrassing" stray pubic hairs.

Parents should talk about this type of thing, but it should be like, "Hey, parents, your kid is getting older. Buy her a bra and teach her to shave. Also, tell her it's cool to shave her upper thighs if she wants to so her pubes don't peak out at the pool."

[Edited on July 7, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : ]

7/7/2012 10:54:09 PM

so you're just arguing shaving vs. waxing or what?

kids are generally gonna learn to do what they're parents do at first. if mom goes and gets her vag waxed, the kid's gonna think that's what they need to do. i know when i realized i needed to start shaving i just used the same razors and shaving cream i'd seen my dad use all those years.

[Edited on July 7, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : adsf]

7/7/2012 10:55:42 PM

I think Bridget and I are on the same wave length possibly.

7/7/2012 10:57:50 PM

i just think it's strange to care so much about what other folks do with their kids when it has no effect on you.

7/7/2012 10:58:37 PM

I hear ya. But I don't really care what other people do. If I find out my neighbor gets her kid's private parts waxed, I'm not going to be upset about it or whatever.

But if this is a trend of which a majority of people approve, then that is troubling to me.

7/7/2012 11:30:11 PM