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"We've seen enough to know what we are (mediocre) and what we aren't (good). Contrary to popular belief most teams don't improve or regress a great deal in comparison to other teams during the season. Nearly every team will get a little bit better as the season progresses so the relative improvement is smaller. Yes injuries/suspensions can make teams significantly weaker but that's not what we're talking about here. We are a little better than our early results suggest thanks to Vandy's return from injury and Gott finally figuring out to bench Lewis. But unless Lee becomes a good player out of nowhere we don't figure to get much better. Let's face it, TJ can't possibly play any better. Cat can't play any better (if anything id expect him to get worse in conference play). Turner is pretty much who he is at this point in his 4th year. Lee is like 29 years old already, if he had any game we would have seen it by now. Anya can obviously improve a great deal but he's not getting major minutes anyway. Freeman isn't skilled enough to contribute more than he is already. Washington can't play at all so we could improve by benching him completely I guess. I guess Lewis has potential room for improvement in his spot duty, but if he gets increased minutes that take away from Cat that will negate the improvement. There just aren't many more tricks we can pull. We're already playing a fairly optimal roster. We have pretty bad results and schedule strength so far. The one thing that is good is that our ACC schedule is frontloaded. Meaning we're going to lose a ton of games early on and then we'll appear to "improve" by winning more on the backend. Our "last 10 games" metric will look more impressive than if the schedule was backloaded. Still, I'd expect us to be out of the NCAA tourney hunt altogether after our loss to Duke on January 18th. That will drop us to 1-4 in the ACC and from there it's all about righting the ship for an NIT push. "

This idiot really couldn't have been more wrong.



[Edited on March 19, 2014 at 12:25 AM. Reason : RIP credibility...not that he really had any anyway.]

3/19/2014 12:20:20 AM

Really? I'm pretty proud of the accuracy of that post.

Just because the committee put an undeserving revenue school in the dance instead of numerous mid majors doesn't make my post less accurate with regards to our team assessment.

The only thing missing from that post is the proper level of cynicism. The NCAA has proven time and time again that they only care about dollar signs.

This is the 2nd time in recent memory that we made the tournament with absolutely no legitimate claim to a bid.

[Edited on March 19, 2014 at 1:14 AM. Reason : a]

3/19/2014 1:14:02 AM

3/19/2014 1:16:50 AM

so face, who shouldve made the tourney over us? obviously Xavier didn't belong, but who did?

3/19/2014 1:20:23 AM

Quote :

"Just because the committee put an undeserving revenue school in the dance instead of numerous mid majors doesn't make my post less accurate with regards to our team assessment. The only thing missing from that post is the proper level of cynicism. The NCAA has proven time and time again that they only care about dollar signs. This is the 2nd time in recent memory that we made the tournament with absolutely no legitimate claim to a bid."

Money.

You just can't predict people - Unknown

3/19/2014 1:26:13 AM

So accuracy means getting like half your shit right these days?

Turner is our solid second scorer. The team has been playing better with Lewis. And his post made it seem like we would barely make the NIT when it was barely making the NCAA.

Nice attempting at saving face.

3/19/2014 7:06:31 AM

Quote :

"so face, who shouldve made the tourney over us? obviously Xavier didn't belong, but who did?"

Not on faces side in this argument but just wanted to point out this fallacy.

3/19/2014 7:54:02 AM

Quote :

"Really? I'm pretty proud of the accuracy of that post. "

Nearly every prediction about our players and the outcome of this season was incorrect.

That's accurate where you come from huh?

3/19/2014 7:55:24 AM

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"The NCAA has proven time and time again that they only care about dollar signs."

Maybe this is why you can't make an accurate prediction. You don't take into account things that happen 'time and time again.' Isn't that basic logic?



Don't worry guys. He made a fortune on our games

3/19/2014 7:58:54 AM

Again I think that is a highly accurate post in retrospect.

If you can identify specific points you think are inaccurate I'll address them

3/19/2014 12:09:46 PM

"We've seen enough to know what we are (mediocre) and what we aren't (good).

Contrary to popular belief most teams don't improve or regress a great deal in comparison to other teams during the season.

Gott finally figuring out to bench Lewis.

Let's face it, TJ can't possibly play any better. Washington can't play at all.

There just aren't many more tricks we can pull. We're already playing a fairly optimal roster. We have pretty bad results and schedule strength so far.

Still, I'd expect us to be out of the NCAA tourney hunt altogether after our loss to Duke on January 18th. That will drop us to 1-4 in the ACC and from there it's all about righting the ship for an NIT push.



Start with those.

3/19/2014 12:23:16 PM

face's points are very subjective. Yet he claims he is accurate. You can't post vague stuff, some of them contradictory, and then claim you got them right.

3/19/2014 12:39:23 PM

Face posts 100 predictions, then claims he was right when 5 of them are accurate. In the above post, he didn't even do that well. face failed miserably.

3/19/2014 12:42:20 PM

^^^ also:

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"But unless Lee becomes a good player out of nowhere we don't figure to get much better."

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"Freeman isn't skilled enough to contribute more than he is already."

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"This team never had a chance in hell at making the tournament. It's over"

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"9-9 we won't sniff the bubble."

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"Good god just stop. This team never had a chance in hell at making the tournament. It's over"

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"I doubt we make the nit. Id give us a 38% chance . Team just stinks unfortunately"

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"Man, tyler lewis just has no game at all"

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"Gottfried is done. Our defense was horrible with 5 upperclassmen who were all borderline nba players. He just does not give a fuck about defense. We have practically the worst FT defense in the nation again that is just inexcusable. On top of all that we have a defensive stalwart on the bench that hes refused to play for two years running. We are going to have a losing record this year. At this point he has squandered way too much talent to think he has a chance to turn things around. Last year was an abomination. "

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"We're a borderline top 100 team this year for sure. 15-16 type overall record with 6-12 in the ACC sounds about right. Let's just hope we don't collapse and go like 3-15."

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"The fact Gottfried started Washington at the beginning of the year just shows he's in over his head. The guy looks like he'll struggle to ever even be a fringe ACC rotation player. "

3/19/2014 12:42:28 PM

and this

"Washington can't play at all so we could improve by benching him completely I guess."

"I guess Lewis has potential room for improvement in his spot duty, but if he gets increased minutes that take away from Cat that will negate the improvement."

3/19/2014 12:50:16 PM

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"Its worth mentioning that vandenberg sending anya/washington and barber sending lewis to the bench does make us a significantly better team. If we run with Barber, Lee, Warren, Freeman, Vandy. With Turner/Lewis in support roles qe actually have an okay team. Probably not .500 in acc play or bubble worthy but we could perhaps go .500 overall and qualify for the NIT."

3/19/2014 12:57:31 PM

Quote :

"Just because the committee put an undeserving revenue school in the dance instead of numerous mid majors doesn't make my post less accurate with regards to our team assessment. The only thing missing from that post is the proper level of cynicism. The NCAA has proven time and time again that they only care about dollar signs. This is the 2nd time in recent memory that we made the tournament with absolutely no legitimate claim to a bid. "

If you knew this already, you should've seen State making the tourney from a mile away. All that booze/coke has eaten away at your gray matter. Impotence is next.

3/19/2014 1:12:26 PM

LOL. You guys are driving face away.

3/19/2014 1:15:16 PM

Annnnnnd we brought face back. Lol

3/20/2014 10:15:38 PM

yep lol, face has the last word

3/20/2014 10:17:51 PM

I'm amazed at how everyone was ganging up. Like a sinful city killing a prophet

3/20/2014 10:22:57 PM

should have put Jevoni in to break the press and make free throws.

3/21/2014 10:37:10 AM

and to block that shit

3/21/2014 10:42:53 AM

Haha, TJW gone.I told you guys our program sucks our team will be terrible next year we are paying for the sins of letting our Jesus Russell Wilson go.

- face

[Edited on March 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2014 2:25:44 PM

we will end up going back to the 5 double figure (10-12 pts per guy) scoring type team....doubt we will be worse than this year's team...i think we will improve over this season

[Edited on March 24, 2014 at 2:27 PM. Reason : afsd]

3/24/2014 2:27:08 PM

Just putting this here for later ridicule:

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"face: Absolutely not going to bother watching this season in either sport. Would rather skin my dick with a potato peeler than watch us suck dick in both sports again. Cellar Dwelling for sure. 3/21/2014 6:06:21 PM"

3/24/2014 2:39:52 PM

face answer me this -- how did the '84-85 team not win the national title?

Spud Webb (Senior)
Terry Gannon (Senior)
Lorenzo Charles (Senior)
Nate McMillan (Junior)
Cozell McQueen (Senior)

bench: Vinny Del Negro, Ernie Myers

3/27/2014 11:59:34 PM

Our luck was exhausted from previous seasons.

http://kenpom.com/team/NCSU/1984/luck-rating

3/28/2014 12:17:01 AM

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"Between all the defections, this year's bust recruiting class, and whiffing on incoming freshman th. outlook is awfully bleak for our basketball program. Going to rely on major improvement from cat, lacey, and anya to even make the tournament next year my guess is we don't but I think we have a decent shot the following season "

4/2/2014 2:32:05 PM

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"I just don't see Washington developing into someone who is playable"

4/2/2014 2:38:23 PM

^ ?

I don't see him developing into playable.


I could be wrong but he was just terrible this year. I think his upside is painter

4/2/2014 3:22:00 PM

I'm just posting it for posterity.

4/2/2014 3:25:29 PM

face, can you weigh in on the Braves chances at a penant this year?

4/2/2014 6:03:34 PM

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"his upside is painter"

ouch

4/2/2014 6:38:39 PM

Painter didn't have any post moves. Washington is more skilled as a freshmen than Painter was as a junior...and I like Painter.

4/2/2014 6:46:09 PM

I'm sure it's been said but his raw skills are intriguing but his decision making is worse than CJ as a freshman. I wanted to throw things at my TV a dozen times in the last five games alone with him..

4/2/2014 6:58:58 PM

The kid fancies he can drill that jumper. I like his confidence.

4/2/2014 7:13:29 PM

personally I find his post moves more objectionable than his jumper

4/2/2014 9:44:18 PM

You guys still talking about offense?

4/3/2014 12:56:59 AM

Being able to knock down a jumpshot is meaningless. It's all about offensive rebounding percentage and foul defense.

4/3/2014 1:04:01 AM

dude could not have been more right about kawhi leonard.

6/16/2014 1:13:11 AM

And more wrong about Andre Drummond. He wins some; he loses some. Just like everyone else..

6/16/2014 7:36:45 AM

Thoughts?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/06/20/4993082/nba-top-100-players.html

6/22/2014 2:44:18 PM

face hasn't been posting as face lately, so i thought i'd post one of his from last August in the Cat thread

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"getting rid of lewis will be huge for our team next year. guy just couldnt play. having a PG who just gets murdered in transition defense, never getting loose balls, etc is just killer. Having one guy on your team who isn't ACC caliber is a much, much bigger leak than most people realize. Especially at PG. Cat sucked for most of last season during ACC play, but Lewis was a silent killer out there. Neither were a good option but at least Cat flashed potential. I think he'll be solid this year. But the team will still be terrible."

3/11/2015 9:43:49 PM

Last I spoke with him, he was done with Gott.

3/11/2015 9:51:28 PM

Mane face where you at, lets bro out in this thread

3/21/2015 11:25:18 PM