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"3 plus years of Java/J2EE software design and development."

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"DOES NOT COMPUTE! "

7/17/2012 7:46:07 AM

you're taking an entry level position in their company, and more than likely getting entry level pay. It is a hiring companies market right now. gotta love all those jobs that were made out there for us!


anyway, good luck with the hunt!

7/17/2012 7:56:02 AM

7/17/2012 8:03:19 AM

^lolwut?

7/17/2012 8:08:22 AM

lol

7/17/2012 8:19:44 AM

I NEED TWO MORE FRAMES!

7/17/2012 8:26:05 AM

I have 3 years experience stocking shelves at food lion

7/17/2012 8:36:11 AM

so apply for entry level jobs at Target and HarrisTeeter

7/17/2012 8:39:20 AM

I'm over qualified. I will accept no less than $8.5/hr for my shelf stocking skills.

7/17/2012 8:41:43 AM

I once went to an interview for an "entry level position". A few minutes into the interview and I figured out this position was over my head... and required a PE (not stated nor described well on the online description)... turns out they wanted someone with 4-5 years of experience/new PE. That is NOT entry level in engineering.

7/17/2012 8:41:43 AM

We typically hire entry level into the Associate level of engineering, needing bachelors or the equivalent in experience. It helps if you interned though.

^ that aounds like a ploy to hire someone on at a lower level so they could pay less, and still get someone with a PE. Even if successful, the company likely wouldn't be able to retain that employee for long

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 8:55 AM. Reason : K]

7/17/2012 8:52:48 AM

the job market scares me. i need to find something i'm passionate about, but i honestly don't know what that is, even at 27

7/17/2012 8:55:22 AM

Dude lets write screenplays for TV shows

I have a jillion ideas bouncing thru my head

7/17/2012 9:32:27 AM

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"i need to find something i'm passionate about"

why?

a job/career is about getting paid for something you can do, that some company or entity needs. this bullshit about following your passions is some fairy tale crap that retarded baby boomer parents invented. The world doesn't give a shit about what people are passionate about. The best case scenario for 99% of people is to find a career that pays well that you don't hate.

The alternative is to follow your passion, whatever that might be and accept a barely-liveable wage for it because tens of thousands of other kids decided the same thing was their passion, and supply/demand dictates that wages are low because there's an overabundance of [x]. but then don't whine about how bad you have it like Snewf.

7/17/2012 9:49:16 AM

*shrug* i've been pretty fortunate to be able to get paid good money for doing things that i'm passionate about

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 9:53 AM. Reason : .]

7/17/2012 9:53:18 AM

Because it's fun?

Money can only wipe away so many of the tears caused from working a shitty job.

7/17/2012 9:53:28 AM

that BigMan157 collage reminds me of Lavern and Shirley. Lavern's favorite drink was pepsi and milk.

7/17/2012 9:55:04 AM

^^, ^^^,



would you still do the same job you do, right now, if it only paid $20k a year? I definitely wouldn't. I'd do what I needed to do to switch to a better paying career.

For now, those of us that are technophiles are the lucky ones.

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason : .]

7/17/2012 9:59:09 AM

ha ha

No

7/17/2012 10:00:22 AM

nope, that's why i didn't become a teacher

fortunately, i can now pursue my passion for both technology AND education and still make dollar bucks

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM. Reason : now if only i could make bucks in programming ROBOTS to learn, good lord i'd be a happy man]

7/17/2012 10:01:03 AM

gotta agree with bobby. I'm lucky to be interested in cloud computing and have a lot of experience in it. if i got mailman money to do this, best believe it would be a hobby and not a career

7/17/2012 10:02:25 AM

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" I'd do what I needed to do to switch to a better paying career. "

Right, but you'd pursue something you're interested in. I wouldn't shovel shit 12 hours a day for $90k, either.

7/17/2012 10:02:31 AM

That said, there's a certain mendoza line where, assuming a certain level of income, even significant incremental increase in income for other jobs would not be attractive to me.

^^

most definitely, it'd be a matter of "what do I like the most or hate the least", and pays the most?


like qntmfred, my dream job would be in teaching, and for me specifically a high school teacher. But I like not worrying about feeding my kid more.


[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM. Reason : .]

7/17/2012 10:03:13 AM

7/17/2012 10:05:13 AM

i wish i was more computer savvy. i know enough to serve as part time office IT guy when I need to be. but a technofile i am not.

7/17/2012 10:06:11 AM

I feel as if this topic is straying from 'entry level jobs'. Personally, I blame qntmfred (script)

7/17/2012 10:08:41 AM

Any job related thread on tww usually turns into a bragfest

7/17/2012 10:10:05 AM

Actually, I've always thought people have been pretty good about not swinging their salary dicks on TWW.

most job threads do devolve into engineering vs. chass shitbaggery tho

7/17/2012 10:12:20 AM

I wish I could brag about my job. I can't even bring up my jerb without someone accusing me of killing Iraqi children



[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM. Reason : One day]

7/17/2012 10:13:22 AM

i just want to get out of construction. i hate dealing with the people in this industry and there are no signs of a younger generation coming in. everyone i deal with is 40+.

7/17/2012 10:24:25 AM

^Does that mean lots of job opportunities will be opening up?

I'd love to be more on the construction side of things, but very long working hours, shitty weather, lots of travel, and often lower pay keep me on the design side.

I think a lot of my friends who did construction in college/started working in the industry are trying to find jobs with more office time, better hours, and often better pay.

7/17/2012 10:27:35 AM

Here's my whining for a sec....

I work a job I don't like to pay the bills, but volunteer my ass off outside of work to learn the skills necessary to do the job that I lurve. Sadly I didn't figure out what I like until AFTER college, so I wasn't smart enough to go thru a degree program that would put me in the right position.

So one of these days I'll get to do a job I lurve and actually get paid bank for it. Until then, I work a job I can't stand and barely get any sleep because of all the other projects I work on.

7/17/2012 10:41:29 AM

Oh my GOD the word 'lurve' bothers me so much

Never ever ever say it again

7/17/2012 10:44:08 AM

Is this thread not about penetration?

7/17/2012 10:57:39 AM

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"^Does that mean lots of job opportunities will be opening up? I'd love to be more on the construction side of things, but very long working hours, shitty weather, lots of travel, and often lower pay keep me on the design side. I think a lot of my friends who did construction in college/started working in the industry are trying to find jobs with more office time, better hours, and often better pay."

you would think there would be an exodus of older project managers, superintendents, and estimators from the GC firms but in the five years i've been here it's the same group of aging men. and there is such a disconnect between that group, stuck in their ways, and me. I work for an EC as an estimator/PM and honestly hate the PM side of it due to that. Estimating isn't so bad, but i'm chained to a desk 85% of the time.

I definitely prefer this as opposed to working in the trade out on the jobsite though. I think the hardest part about this industry is the GC firms are no longer "building GCs", meaning they actually had a workforce and built some of the trades themselves. They are all 'construction managers' and paper pushers simply putting numbers into a spreadsheet and funneling the responsibility down to everyone else. It's just not very rewarding.

7/17/2012 10:58:11 AM

I lurve you Slavelle

7/17/2012 10:58:36 AM

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" you would think there would be an exodus of older project managers, superintendents, and estimators from the GC firms but in the five years i've been here it's the same group of aging men."

If it's anything like my industry, these older cats WERE going to retire....but then the recession hit, hurt some people's 401Ks, and pushed off retirement plans for several years.

7/17/2012 11:16:58 AM

7/17/2012 11:28:30 AM

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"but then don't whine about how bad you have it like Snewf."

NOT A SCRIPT

has anyone heard me whining about my employment lately?
I think I've made peace with my situation and I am still doggedly pursuing employment
I've got the skills and the education to warrant making some serious money some day
I just might have to fuck around part-time and freelance until I get the 5-7 years experience that is required for entry level positions in my field

and on the day that I cash my first pay check I invite you to suck my dick

7/17/2012 12:12:11 PM

10-15 years to work your way up to an entry level paycheck?

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason : nothing personal, that kind of statement just doesn't seem to warrant dick sucking invitations]

7/17/2012 12:15:04 PM

meh, it is what it is

I chose a notoriously difficult industry to break into
and then I happened to live at a time when the hubris of our financial industry fucked the rest of the country out of jobs and prosperity so that has made things somewhat more difficult

the point is I'm happy



[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM. Reason : he can suck my dick for riding my nuts - I'll get what I want and keep on minding my own business]

7/17/2012 12:17:38 PM

i need a job to express my inner neck beard.

7/17/2012 12:18:25 PM

^ go into IT


[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM. Reason : ]

7/17/2012 12:19:02 PM

lol Jeepin'...you know you have the outer neckbeard going too

7/17/2012 12:32:07 PM

i feel fortunate to have developed a career path in an area that i am passionate about and pays dollar bucks.

/e-dick swinging

7/17/2012 12:38:24 PM

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[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM. Reason : wrong thread]

7/17/2012 12:49:37 PM

I agree with BobbyDigital I used to be passionate about playing poker, that is until I started playing poker 40 hours a week. I'd probably get sick of doing anything if I had to do it 40 hours week after week. For now I'm quite content to find a career that pays well, that I don't hate, which will allow me to continue to pursue my current passions during the abundance of time when I am not working.

7/17/2012 1:03:01 PM

7/17/2012 1:04:35 PM

Snewf please to refresh my memory but what is it that you do? i know you have talked about it before but i can't remember now

7/17/2012 1:21:55 PM

why does the woman in the background disappear? does that happen in the movie?

7/17/2012 1:31:08 PM