Walter All American 7905 Posts user info edit post |
Any recommendations? It's for a speeding ticket 8/2/2012 12:11:17 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28507 Posts user info edit post |
JAMES CROUCH 8/2/2012 12:11:55 PM
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Walter All American 7905 Posts user info edit post |
haha I assume that was a joke, it looks like he is charged with altering a fuck ton of court records
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11257234/
Quote : | "RALEIGH, N.C. — A Raleigh attorney surrendered to authorities Wednesday, a day after he was indicted on charges that he, a former Wake County District Court judge and a paralegal altered court records in DWI cases over at least the past five years.
James Crouch is charged with two counts of obstruction of justice and one count each of criminal conspiracy and altering court documents.
He was out of jail on a $50,000 unsecured bond Wednesday evening, his attorney, Joe Cheshire, said.
Former Judge Kristin Ruth and paralegal Elizabeth Michelle Daniel, a paralegal in Crouch's office, also face charges.
Ruth, who resigned in May after 13 years as a judge, is charged with failure to discharge her duties. It wasn't clear if she had surrendered to authorities on that charge Wednesday evening.
Daniel, who is charged with obstruction of justice and criminal conspiracy, surrendered Tuesday.
At issue are 46 driving while impaired cases – seven of which involved suppressing evidence of blood-alcohol levels of 0.15 or higher – in which convicted drivers may see a lighter penalty than the loss of driving privileges for a year as the law requires. Crouch was the defense attorney of record in each case.
Those convicted of drunken driving in District Court can appeal the decision, postponing a possible license suspension until the case is formally resolved.
Some defendants eventually give up their appeal in Superior Court and head back to District Court for sentencing, which triggers the start of their year-long license suspension.
In the cases tied to the indictments, documents showed that Ruth overruled another judge's conviction dates. The new dates were up to a year earlier, meaning that some drivers might have been spared a license suspension or had a shortened time without a license.
Cheshire said Tuesday that prosecutors are going too far in the case, noting that the practices in question are common at the Wake County Courthouse.
Wake County District Attorney Colon Willoughby has said that is not true.
"The thing that makes these cases so unusual is they involve one judge changing another judge's judgment without notice to prosecutors, and that sort of thing does not go on in the courthouse, that I am aware," he said. "I think the public should be reassured that whenever we have these incidents, they are being investigated and handled appropriately."
Ruth's attorneys have not responded to requests for interviews. Previously, they have said that she is cooperating with the investigation.
In a statement announcing her resignation, she said that she trusted Crouch and that he misled her by asking her to sign court orders that differed from how the attorney described them to the judge.
Bill Young, an attorney for Daniel, said she was not trying to break the law." |
8/2/2012 12:16:09 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28507 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT???????? 8/2/2012 12:17:53 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
Oh here is a recommendation...
SLOW THE FUCK DOWN
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ...] 8/2/2012 2:47:14 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
There it is!
Stupid fuck. That wasn't what the OP was asking. 8/2/2012 2:48:01 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
^
I just see these " i need an atty to help me get out of a ticket" OVER AND OVER
if they would just slow down a little...
but no they want to do 80+ in a 65 and wonder why they get a ticket
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 2:52 PM. Reason : ...] 8/2/2012 2:52:00 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Well, whenever you need a lawyer, I surely hope you don't ask anyone for recommendations. 8/2/2012 2:53:40 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
if this was a dwi thread you'd have 40 people in here calling the op an idiot and rightly so. speeding isnt that much farther down the shit head pole than dwi. slow the fuck down asshole 8/2/2012 3:01:49 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
How's about the rest of you speed up, assholes. 8/2/2012 3:04:20 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
how about not endangering other peoples lives 8/2/2012 3:06:16 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
how about this...
1. watch you speed by me when I am already doing 10 over 2. call you a dumbass 3. see you pulled by a trooper in 3 miles 4. repeat # 2 5. I get home safely and without losing $200 plus dollars 8/2/2012 3:08:44 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^You're right. get off the highway if you're too scared. 8/2/2012 3:10:45 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3. see you pulled by a trooper in 3 miles" |
this makes my day every time
^wtf kind of knuckle dragging logic is that
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .] 8/2/2012 3:11:22 PM
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specialkay All American 1036 Posts user info edit post |
He didnt ask how to not get a speeding ticket zifnab. He asked for a lawyer. People speed without getting tickets all the time. It is all about opportunity cost.
And I bet you dont notice the fact that that person speeds past you every day for a year before he gets caught, if he ever gets caught.
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 3:17 PM. Reason : ] 8/2/2012 3:16:03 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
angry little men itt.
is it your first ticket? 8/2/2012 3:16:26 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
specialkay and I BET you didn't notice when said dumbass runs into another car(s) and kills or severely injures people because they were speeding....
not to mention ER costs, insurance... we all have to pay higher insurance so some ass can get to where they are going 30 seconds faster than if they drove a reasonable speed.
I do notice the assholes flying by me every day. That is the problem. Unfortunately they don't get caught. 8/2/2012 3:47:19 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
I drive 15-30mph+ over the speed limit whenever I safely can. Been doing it for [many] years without harming anyone or getting a speeding ticket. And whenever I get a ticket, I'll consider that the cost of doing business and it won't alter my driving.
JUDGE ME
Quote : | "can get to where they are going 30 seconds faster than if they drove a reasonable speed." |
It's not about getting there faster. It's about having fun while you're getting there.] 8/2/2012 4:16:21 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I bet zifnab is one of those jackasses who drives slowly in the left lane and justifies it in his head by thinking no one should speed anyways. 8/2/2012 4:19:08 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
so what happens when you do harm someone? will it be worth the "fun"? 8/2/2012 4:19:28 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Speed differential kills, not just speeding. Speed up or get all the way to the right. 8/2/2012 4:20:28 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so what happens when you do harm someone?" |
What happens when you do?] 8/2/2012 4:20:48 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Speed differential kills, not just speeding." |
this has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read, SPEEDING DOESNT KILL JUST GOING FASTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE DOES
I'm not carelessly breaking the law and creating a risk for everyone around me 8/2/2012 4:22:48 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Speeding doesn't inherently create a greater risk for everyone else around you.
And a lot of speeding isn't careless. Drifting in and out of lanes is careless. Going 15 mph under the speed limit is careless. Traveling with the speed of the traffic is not careless.
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM. Reason : ] 8/2/2012 4:23:35 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "creating a risk for everyone around me" |
That's an assumption. 8/2/2012 4:23:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:24:36 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
driving slowly is more dangerious than speeding, especially the assholes that do it in the left lane and make a bunch of people drive erratically to get past them 8/2/2012 4:25:05 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
damn. tell us how you really feel  8/2/2012 4:25:08 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
ahahah wth, it said oh shit internal error the first time I clicked. 
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:26 PM. Reason : ~] 8/2/2012 4:25:44 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
what ^ said multiple times 8/2/2012 4:26:18 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
WRONG.
I drive in the right lane unless i am passing someone. I drive the limit and up to 10 over. I don't think it is right to excessively speed and if you get a ticket it is because you deserve it.
I bet Beethoven is one of those jackasses who thinks that everyone who is pissed off about unsafe drivers also thinks that we always drive in the left lane at the limit.
CORRECTION
I bet Beethoven is one of those jackasses, PERIOD. 8/2/2012 4:26:41 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I bet Beethoven is one of those jackasses who thinks that everyone who is pissed off about unsafe drivers also thinks that we always drive in the left lane at the limit." |
I'm not sure what exactly this means, but I'm sure you're right. 8/2/2012 4:28:05 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I drive the limit and up to 10 over." |
And you're in here ragging on speeders? GTFO with that shit. You could be cited just as easily as the OP or in some people's opinions, "create higher risk".
You don't even know how fast the OP was going. what if it were just 5? or 10? is it ok by your standards then? busch league bullshit.
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .] 8/2/2012 4:28:38 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Ooooooh ok so you speeding at 10 over is ok
But someone going 15-20 over (eg) is bad.
I'm glad all drivers, cars and conditions exactly the same.
Quote : | "if you get a ticket it is because you deserve it." |
BREAKING NEWS!!!! IF YOU GET A PARKING TICKET, YOU DESERVE IT!!!! 8/2/2012 4:29:14 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's an assumption." |
an assumption based on fact. second leading cause of car fatalities and the cause of almost 1/3 of all fatal crashes
fucking sad that so many people so casually disregard something that's a real danger to themselves and others
AND FOR THE RECORD
I'm not ragging on someone going 5 or 10 or even 15 over
I'm talking about the people who travel at unsafe speeds in the midst of people travelling at normal speeds
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .] 8/2/2012 4:29:36 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't stutter. SO let me break it down for you.
1. You are a jackass. 2. Driving with excessive speed kills. 3. I don't drive in the left lane at the speed limit. 8/2/2012 4:31:36 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
And the goalposts are moved. 8/2/2012 4:32:23 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Look at this self-righteous motherfucker here.] 8/2/2012 4:33:20 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
apparently 10 over isn't fast enough for you assholes that ride my ass no matter what lane I am in.... 8/2/2012 4:33:34 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^edit, bitch
^So you now know how fast I drive?
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ^] 8/2/2012 4:33:37 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
This is exciting. It appears I've really pissed someone off on the internet.
1. Whether this is or isn't true is entirely irrelevant to the speeding. 2. Driving with excessive speed dangerously kills can lead to accidents which may or may not cause death. 3. I'm glad. That raises you in my estimation. 8/2/2012 4:34:12 PM
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zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
no look at the motherfucker that hasn't got a damn speeding ticket and no accidents 8/2/2012 4:34:15 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
well this thread was successfully side tracked] 8/2/2012 4:34:53 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |

8/2/2012 4:35:06 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
^^OP already has a few recommendations for an attorney, so it's all good now.
[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ] 8/2/2012 4:35:22 PM
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