eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/chick-fil-a-davidson-college-suspends_n_1772685.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Davidson College in North Carolina has become the first college to give Chick-fil-A the boot.
Students at Davidson began protesting against serving Chick-fil-A at school sponsored late-night food-and-music events called After Midnight, which are held on one Saturday each month. An online petition gathered nearly 500 signatures calling for the school to stop serving Chick-fil-A at campus sanctioned events. Some Davidson students oppose the company's support of anti-gay groups, and its president, Dan Cathy, admitting to being against same-sex marriage rights.... 8/13/2012 7:21:33 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
very. interesting.
Let's see what comes of this.
I for one would be thrilled if they kicked them State's campus too. 8/13/2012 7:30:47 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Intolerance is on the rise. Pretty soon it will be yet again okay to boot gay and black run businesses. 8/13/2012 8:04:26 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "very. interesting.
Let's see what comes of this.
I for one would be thrilled if they kicked them State's campus too." |
I think you're in the minority on that one.8/13/2012 8:08:07 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Its a private university... it really is not an issue. I guess it would be more of an issue if it was a public university that did it. An important part of it would be their reasoning for banning as well. 8/13/2012 8:58:25 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Oh yes hating gay people is the same as being black. 8/13/2012 10:08:30 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
I'm surprised that a university with even a slight Christian affiliation would boot an obviously Christian-run business for the fact that its owner expressed a right-wing Christian belief...then again Davidson's affiliation is Presbyterian, not exactly an evangelical fundie denomination (albeit also not the kind of liberal denomination that would barely seem Christian to someone who suffered through an evangelical milieu as a kid). 8/13/2012 10:13:28 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Oh yes hating gay people is the same as being black. 8/13/2012 10:17:43 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
as someone living right down the road from davidson college i can assure you this wasnt a big deal. 8/13/2012 10:43:56 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think you're in the minority on that one." |
Probably. Any issues that you'd be in the minority on but you think you're still right?
Quote : | "Intolerance is on the rise." |
Yes. Bigots for marriage equality. Fuck those egalitarian bastards!8/13/2012 11:31:50 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Students at Davidson began protesting against serving Chick-fil-A at school sponsored late-night food-and-music events called After Midnight, which are held on one Saturday each month." |
These losers were some of the only people in the world to get chick-fil-a on sunday, and they got rid of it?!8/14/2012 9:15:59 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Anybody who seriously advances the "being anti-bigotry is bigoted" line seriously needs to put a bullet between their eyes.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 9:25 AM. Reason : .] 8/14/2012 9:24:25 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
seriously?
V, I was just poking at the fact that you used 'seriously' twice in one sentence.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 9:38 AM. Reason : .] 8/14/2012 9:33:57 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, like I am literally asking, with utmost sincerity, for anyone who uses that line to pick up a gun or purchase on if necessary, load a single bullet in it, put it under their chin pointed slightly backwards, and pull the trigger.
edit: whoops I mean between the eyes, you get the idea.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 9:39 AM. Reason : really it's not important as long as it passes through a large volume of brain matter] 8/14/2012 9:37:28 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
So you believe other people deserve to die because you don't agree with their beliefs? 8/14/2012 3:14:08 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
let me guess, that makes him a bigot? 8/14/2012 3:52:51 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Dead!???!? 8/14/2012 3:55:20 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Myself, I just want to point out to you that not all beliefs are equally valid. 8/14/2012 4:13:21 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
That doesn't matter. People have the right to believe what they want.
And before you mention it, Str8Foolish also has the right to believe that certain people should kill themselves, just like other people have the right to believe that Str8Foolish's mother is the worst prostitute they ever spent five bucks on 8/14/2012 4:20:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a bigot for marriage equality! I'm also a bigot against racists! 8/14/2012 4:39:52 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, people have the right to be wrong. It does matter when their beliefs affect their actions to the detriment of people for no good damned reason.
Like believing gay people are subhuman and then voting or supporting lobbyists to prevent them access to the same rights and privileges as heterosexuals, for instance. 8/14/2012 4:40:24 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Or petitioning to have dozens of innocent workers lose their jobs because of the beliefs held by someone in their organization that their boss's boss has never even met.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM. Reason : ] 8/14/2012 4:45:10 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Were the contract workers on the Death Star innocent?
Also, who has lost their job exactly?
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .] 8/14/2012 4:53:26 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
If we're going to bring fictional scenarios, yes there were likely millions of innocent people on both Death Stars. I don't know what the point there is, there was a war going on.
And the people who worked at the Davidson Chick-Fil-A lost their jobs, presumably. 8/14/2012 4:59:11 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Those who lost their jobs obviously understood the companies Christian values. They used their own free will to apply and work for chick fil a.
Davidson, a private college, disagreed with the values of a company and removed it from campus.
Seems ok to me. 8/14/2012 5:27:22 PM |
MisterGreen All American 4328 Posts user info edit post |
..
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM. Reason : tsb] 8/14/2012 5:49:16 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Even if it was a public college, why would it matter, if it was the student body that made the decision? 8/14/2012 6:18:01 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
^ there was a NY university where the student body voted to keep Chick-fil-a. I agree, a vote seems the most fair way. 8/14/2012 7:14:22 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Ha
That would be NYU.
Also this is funny bc it's in a nyu food court and is only accessed by nyu students. It's also the only chick fil a in the entire city.
[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 7:26 PM. Reason : Also] 8/14/2012 7:24:31 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And the people who worked at the Davidson Chick-Fil-A lost their jobs, presumably." |
presumably, you didn't even read the article and are just talking out of your ass.
Quote : | "Many colleges have seen students protest against Chick-fil-A restaurants located on campus, but Davidson doesn't actually have one at their school. Chick-fil-A food was ordered and served regularly at After Midnight events, along with other fast food options." |
And I'm almost certain that at most campuses if they shut down the Chick-fil-a, the workers (who work for the school) would still work for the school and would be reassigned, possibly to whatever they replace the chick-fil-a with.
Quote : | "If we're going to bring fictional scenarios, yes there were likely millions of innocent people on both Death Stars. I don't know what the point there is, there was a war going on" |
It was a Clerks reference. Sorry.
[Edited on August 15, 2012 at 9:03 AM. Reason : .]8/15/2012 9:01:57 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
You're right, I didn't read the article, I don't have time to read every article in every thread I post in. This action by davidson is extremely insignificant, not even thread worthy really, could have gone in the main CFA thread. They changed the food they serve at a late night event, that's not really a major development for either side of the argument. 8/15/2012 11:21:58 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Why are you do butthurt about it? 8/15/2012 11:56:44 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not butthurt about it. I support legalized gay marriage but I also support the first ammendment.
Now that I see that this story was basically nothing then it's no big deal. I was never really commenting about this story in particular and didn't know or care to know much about it. I assumed davidson had shut down a campus CFA but that turned out to be incorrect, what are you gonna do. 8/15/2012 1:49:19 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
how about not taking your "Jump to Conclusions" mat out of the closet before posting 8/15/2012 2:08:10 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Nah I think i'm going to continue drawing unfounded conclusions in issues I don't care about enough to read an article for. 8/15/2012 2:17:35 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I admire your honesty. 8/15/2012 2:22:39 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
A near the top front page story on CNN right now:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/28/us/chick-fil-a-philanthropy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Quote : | "(CNN) -- Chick-fil-A restaurants' philanthropic WinShape Foundation no longer funds the most controversial and politically charged anti-same-sex-marriage groups and has not since 2011, according to Campus Pride, a leading national LGBT campus organization.
Campus Pride issued a statement Monday claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to WinShape's 2011 "990" tax documents. He said they show that the nearly $6 million in outside grant funding "focuses on youth, education, marriage enrichment and local communities" and that in the list of the foundation's beneficiaries, "the most divisive, anti-LGBT groups are no longer listed." Among those groups were the Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International." |
http://www.advocate.com/business/2013/01/28/not-so-fast-chick-fil-hasnt-ended-all-questionable-giving
Quote : | "But Windmeyer clarified in an interview with The Advocate that when he saw IRS tax forms last week, provided to him by Chick-fil-A officials, that several of the groups identified by Equality Matters are still indeed receiving donations.
Those groups include the Marriage and Family Foundation, National Christian Foundation and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes."" |
Quote : | "The only real outstanding question is just how antigay are the groups that Chick-fil-A continues to give to?
Equality Matters included the Fellowship of Christian Athletes on its list because the group had once bragged it could "free" people from homosexuality, even featuring on its website in 2011 the story of a coach who was "delivered from homosexuality."
The National Christian Foundation regularly offers grants to groups that might very well continue to include the likes of Focus on the Family.
Equality Matters points out that the Marriage and Family Foundation, for example, hosts a regular conference on marriage that has in the past prevented same-sex couples from attending. And even stranger, that foundation is run from the same address as Chick-fil-A's headquarters in Atlanta. It was founded in 2007 by a member of the Cathy family." |
It's progress. It's not perfect. But thanks to people making enough noise, less funds are going to the mostly overtly political groups, and a smaller percentage of your chicken-buying-dollar is going to pay for anti-gay lobbyists. I'm willing to call that a victory. Even Chick-Fil-A is catching up with the times as are many of the holdouts in 2013.
[Edited on January 29, 2013 at 1:26 AM. Reason : .]1/29/2013 1:25:06 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
So, in your expert opinion, does that mean that I can resume my copious consumption of waffle fries? 1/29/2013 8:22:11 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
youd better they have new sauces 1/29/2013 10:51:20 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Probably gay sauces. 1/29/2013 1:49:08 PM |