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GeniuSxBoY
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CS6 is $999.
CS5 is $580.
Are they out of their goddamn mind?


What paint shop is everyone else using?
How much did it cost you?

9/29/2012 3:33:48 PM

Azaka
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CS6
$0

9/29/2012 4:10:12 PM

JBaz
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I'm just gonna wait for CS7. Been going every 2 upgrades; CS, CS3 and CS5 currently. And for photoshop, anything past CS3 hasn't been worth it for PS anyhow. Shit, I know guys who still use PS 7.0 for editing.

9/29/2012 4:25:02 PM

quagmire02
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http://www.gimp.org/

9/29/2012 4:52:12 PM

BigMan157
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just pirate it

9/29/2012 6:37:03 PM

jaZon
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CS5
$0

9/29/2012 7:23:25 PM

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Gimp is damn good. PS though is more user friendly, but if you're never to both, gimp should be fairly simple to pickup and use.

9/29/2012 7:58:48 PM

lewisje
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Paint.NET is easier to work with and quicker to load, but it's Windows-only and less powerful.

9/29/2012 8:05:42 PM

tchenku
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if you're going legit
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Adobe-Photoshop-Elements-9-PC/15421308

I'm not sure, but it may not have layer mask capabilities. i'm not a layer mask person so I don't really care

9/29/2012 8:08:28 PM

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Elements 11 just came out and it's $99

9/29/2012 9:15:37 PM

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Quote :
"Some of the features in Photoshop CS5 that are not included in Photoshop Elements 9 are:

CMYK and LAB color modes
More tools and features that work with high-bit (16-bit and 32-bit) images
Channels Palette
Recording custom Actions (for batch processing)
Adjustments: Color Balance, Match Color
Layer Comps, and Quick Mask mode
Smart Objects, Smart Guides
Lens Blur Filter
Vanishing Point Tool
Puppet Warp
Pen tool and paths palette
Mixer brush and bristle tips painting tools
Some adjustment layers (curves, color balance, selective color, channel mixer, vibrance)
Editing History Log
Text on a path, advanced text formatting
Advanced Layer Style manipulation
Advanced Color Management
Advanced Web features (rollovers, slicing)
Customizable tool presets, keyboard shortcuts, and menus
In the features and tools that are shared, the Photoshop version usually offers more advanced options for fine tuning and control."

9/29/2012 9:24:49 PM

Igor
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Photoshop CS is a complete overkill for what most people want to do. What exactly do you need it for?

9/29/2012 9:51:47 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Drawing 3-D murals of the Sistine Chapel

9/29/2012 9:59:14 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Okay.. Serious answer...


I need something that makes transparency easy for .gifs. (I hate gifs that are square with a white background)

I like to use flood fill, splicing, masks, magic wand with tolerance, crop, text, special effects (bevel, glow, etc)

I like versatility (JPG, GIF, PNG, etc..)

I use resizing, cropping, blur, stamp, freestyle lines, freestyle shapes, preset lines, preset shapes alot...

9/29/2012 10:06:09 PM

The Coz
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http://www.pixelmator.com/

$14.99

9/29/2012 10:43:56 PM

Igor
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Unless you need really fast and precise selection tools, 3D layers or crazy blending that would benefit from a 64 bit application, Photoshop elements will let you do everything else you are looking for. It is also a decent photo library organization/tagging tool. Also, like other people mentioned, GIMP is a very powerful free editor, but if you are already used to the photoshop you will need to re-adjust to a different layout.

9/29/2012 11:55:26 PM

tchenku
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i can't even figure out how to move selections in Gimp without copy/pasting to new layer

~^100

9/30/2012 12:38:09 AM

lewisje
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^^^^Try Paint.NET

of course, transparency is even better-done with PNGs

9/30/2012 4:17:21 AM

JBaz
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if anything, Lightroom has a decent editing ability with a powerful catalog system for not a lot of money.

My biggest complaint with LR is the fact that Adobe's Master Collection has everything EXCEPT lightroom... Gheez, thanks Adobe. Making me have to spend a tiny $100 that should be tacked on free after spending 3-4 grand on a your whole suite.

9/30/2012 4:57:58 AM

GeniuSxBoY
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Now that I think about it.. all the computer coders and management and the rent and the hardware and everything must cost a pretty penny. I should be thankful that they accomplished this software within budget and don't overpay themselves huge salaries. It was this reason I broke down and paid the $999.









































10/1/2012 3:05:57 AM

Noen
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Actually Adobe Fireworks might be more what you're looking for, and it's only $299 for a full copy.

Alternatively you can just sign up for Adobe Creative Cloud. 30 day free trial and as little as $19.99 a month ($49.99 a month gets you unlimited use of all their products).

Yeah their shit is expensive. It's also the best out there by a mile, and if you're doing anything professionally, you just suck it up and pay for it.

10/1/2012 5:15:42 AM

Ernie
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CS3 ROLL CALL

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM. Reason : I'M TOO SCARED TO STEAL A NEW VERSION]

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 10:06 AM. Reason : If I paid the asking price for CS6, I would expect a handy from Charles Geschke]

10/1/2012 10:02:49 AM

lewisje
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^easier to steal CS5 IIRC, possibly even CS6

I once posted how but got a stern talking-to

10/1/2012 10:27:06 AM

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Using CS5 but really need to get my hands on CS6. Several features will be worthwhile in daily print preperation.

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM. Reason : 5]

10/1/2012 12:41:16 PM

Noen
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I got the CS6 Design Premium deal for $199 on newegg a few weeks/months ago. Fortunately for me, my student status doesn't expire until the end of this year.

In the end though, the almost 8 years it took me finish my master's degree was infinitely more expensive than the few hundred dollars I saved on CS6, but hey, at least it's something

10/1/2012 7:42:25 PM

Ernie
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I never said it was hard to steal CS6, lewisje and guy who PMed me a random tinyurl link.

10/1/2012 9:01:39 PM

TreeTwista10
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i still use CS3

its fast enough on my shit computer and works well enough for dog chops

10/1/2012 9:48:21 PM

Wyloch
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Still rocking 7.0

10/1/2012 9:51:40 PM

Lokken
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I found full new versions of PS CS4Extended 64bit and Illustrator CS4 extended 64bit for 200 a pop on ebay



[Edited on October 5, 2012 at 12:29 AM. Reason : *]

10/5/2012 12:11:01 AM

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Thread derail time.

I need photo editing - it can be windows or OSX - I'm ATTEMPTING to find something legit that's on the free side since I'll actually be using what's made in a live environment.

The only requirements are that it can't be a piece of shit or run like I'm trying to load crysis on a fucking Pentium 133

[Edited on December 20, 2012 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

12/20/2012 10:41:53 PM

lewisje
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Paint.NET (Windows only): http://www.getpaint.net/

12/20/2012 11:52:32 PM

quagmire02
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has anyone mentioned http://www.gimp.org/ ?

12/21/2012 12:03:11 AM

lewisje
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I sometimes get this feeling when trying to launch that program: "like I'm trying to load crysis on a fucking Pentium 133"

12/21/2012 12:49:36 AM

jaZon
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^ yea - GIMP ran like absolute shit the last time I attempted to use it.

^^^ That may actually work fine for what I need at the moment. yay! thanks!

[Edited on December 21, 2012 at 8:43 AM. Reason : ]

12/21/2012 8:40:38 AM

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CS2 is free now

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=cs2_downloads&PID=4485850

Products to be given away are:
Creative Suite 2
Acrobat 3D 1.0
Acrobat Standard 7.0
Acrobat Pro 8.0
Audition 3.0
GoLive CS2
Illustrator CS2
InCopy CS2
InDesign CS2
Photoshop CS2
Photoshop Elements 4.0/5.0
Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0


older stuff, but has everything most non-designers need. props to adobe.

1/7/2013 1:49:39 PM

TreeTwista10
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^
Quote :
"We're sorry, the site area you've requested is unavailable. Please try again later."

1/7/2013 2:59:37 PM

gs7
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^
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/87488/adobe-adobe-creative-suite-cs2-standard-pc-or-mac-digital-download

1/7/2013 3:50:20 PM

Prospero
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http://slickdeals.net/f/5784982-Adobe-CS2-Premium-Plus-giveaway-for-PC-Mac-Creative-Suite-2-Photoshop-CS2-Photoshop-Elements-4-0-5-0-Acrobat-Pro-8-0-Acrobat-3D-1-0-Premier-Pro-2-Audition-3-more?p=56674132#edit56674132

[Edited on January 7, 2013 at 3:54 PM. Reason : ,]

1/7/2013 3:53:48 PM

Wyloch
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Was a misunderstanding. Not free.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/

1/7/2013 4:43:31 PM

Noen
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^Yes, it is actually. They may not want you to find / use the keys and installers provided, but there is zero requirement that you already own a valid copy of CS2.

1/7/2013 11:33:00 PM

gs7
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http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2013/01/update-on-cs2-and-acrobat-7-activation-servers.html?PID=4485850

Quote :
"Update on CS2 and Acrobat 7 Activation Servers
POSTED BY ADOBE CORPORATE COMMUNICATIONS ON JANUARY 7, 2013 4:05 PM IN CREATIVES, DIGITAL MEDIA

Effective December 13, Adobe disabled the activation server for CS2 products and Acrobat 7 because of a technical glitch. These products were released over 7 years ago and do not run on many modern operating systems. But to ensure that any customers activating those old versions can continue to use their software, we issued a serial number directly to those customers. While this might be interpreted as Adobe giving away software for free, we did it to help our customers."


I underlined the last bit ... which basically (and probably for legal reasons) denies that they are "giving it away for free" but they worded it very carefully to not imply you are wrong if you use it for free. They gave their intent, but left it only at that.

Enjoy CS2! They hope you'll like it enough to upgrade.

1/8/2013 12:26:07 AM

lewisje
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well I hope the HOSTS file dickery still works in later CS versions, it's worked since at least CS5

1/8/2013 12:38:11 AM

gs7
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Final word:

It's now just a "download" at Adobe's site, no mention of anything license related:

http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html

You can find this page by searching "cs2" from the search bar on the front page. Right now it's the third result.

So yeah, they're not "giving it away" by advertising about it ... but they are giving it away.

1/9/2013 9:41:32 AM

Walter
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Quote :
"just pirate it"

1/9/2013 9:07:26 PM

Wyloch
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So Flash wasn't added until CS3?

1/10/2013 3:23:33 PM

lewisje
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Indeed: When CS2 was released, Adobe had not yet acquired Macromedia, which was releasing its own design studio called "Macromedia Studio"; MX may be the most famous version, but 8 was the last.

Also in case you ever wanted them, the Microsoft Expression Studio 4 products are now available; some some products are now incorporated into Visual Studio, while others are gone outright: http://www.microsoft.com/expression/

1/14/2013 9:47:11 PM

lewisje
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k I've just installed and tried opening every part of CS2 except Acrobat; both GoLive and Illustrator made Windows 7 Aero turn off, and Illustrator gave a "Font Capture" error when I launched it, but otherwise it was fine so far

Also as a PROTIP, whenever the default installation path says "Program Files (x86)" you should replace that with "PROGRA~2" or whatever the "MS-DOS Short File Name" for that directory is (type "dir /X C:\" into a command prompt and press Enter).

1/16/2013 11:55:37 AM

Prospero
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^and don't forget run in admin mode w/ windows xp sp2 compatibility mode.

1/16/2013 12:35:50 PM

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Quote :
"Also as a PROTIP, whenever the default installation path says "Program Files (x86)" you should replace that with "PROGRA~2" or whatever the "MS-DOS Short File Name" for that directory is (type "dir /X C:\" into a command prompt and press Enter)."


Why? I understand the x86 folder is for 32-bit programs, but I have never had any trouble with anything that gets installed there. Video games circa-1999, Flash 8, etc. What is the purpose of this recommended rename?

1/16/2013 1:08:53 PM

Prospero
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it's what Adobe suggests doing, you can easily google this and find that this is all over the internet, if you don't change the install path you'll get an error saying the path contains unsupported characters

http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-path-contains-unsupported-characters.html
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3922819?tstart=0

someone wiser in the ways of programming can explain why, i presume the installer just doesn't understand parenthesis characters in the install path.

[Edited on January 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

1/16/2013 2:01:11 PM

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