Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
After the perception of Romney having a big win last time, I suppose he's the favorite this time too. Starts at 9pm. I'm looking forward to the variety of questions that could come up with this style of the audience asking the questions.
What would it take for you to see this debate as an Obama win or a Romney win? 10/16/2012 7:20:45 PM |
JLCayton All American 2715 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't say that romney is the favorite, per se, but the pressure is definitely on obama.
pretty off-topic, but my beef with the debates is that they are too late. there are too few undecided voters left. they should do the conventions earlier, do one debate soon after that, one a few weeks before the election, and one somewhere in the middle.
[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 7:37 PM. Reason : .] 10/16/2012 7:36:46 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, they do come pretty late in the game. It's hard to understand how people are still undecided, especially with these candidates who have both been running for so many years. 10/16/2012 7:43:07 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
What about undecided who can't decide between one of the candidates and third party 10/16/2012 7:47:39 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately these debates wont help much with that. I wish they would include 3rd parties in these debates. 10/16/2012 7:55:20 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry corporate candidates only:
http://www.ibtimes.com/jill-stein-green-party-candidate-arrested-outside-debate-video-847567
Jill Stein arrested outside the debate venue (Green Party Candidate) 10/16/2012 8:20:49 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to see a Gary Johnson vs Jill Stein debate. I hope they'll do their own, I think a lot of people would tune in online. I think it speaks to the relative strength of their campaigns though that many people at least know who Gary Johnson is and what party he's with, but for Jill it requires a party label in parentheses. That said, I support more 3rd party inclusion, and have signed petitions to help get the Greens on ballot. 10/16/2012 8:35:47 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like there wont be official opening or closing remarks, more time to focus on questions I guess. 10/16/2012 8:56:26 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^^NPR hosted something like that 10 days ago: http://www.npr.org/2012/10/06/162438686/the-npr-third-party-candidate-debate 10/16/2012 9:08:46 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
No one wants to hear them talk amongst themselves, I want to hear them debate the republican and democrtatic candidates 10/16/2012 9:13:12 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
blame the CPD
they've set a bar that only Ross Perot could have reached: at least 15% in each of several national polls
[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM. Reason : most pollsters don't even mention anyone but the D or the R 10/16/2012 9:15:15 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's hard to understand how people are still undecided, especially with these candidates who have both been running for so many years." |
When the candidates are so hardcore professional politicians, and when the difference is so small, and when they always adjust their position to the audience, how can anyone be decided in the first place?10/16/2012 9:16:32 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It seems like Obama is overcompensating. 10/16/2012 9:17:48 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks lewisje! I'll check that out. I think given the even more divergent philosophies of those two 3rd parties, that it could be a stimulating debate. 10/16/2012 9:17:56 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
haha. sneaky Mitt Romney trying to bait Obama into getting angry.
"C'mon Barak, show middle America just how black you are." 10/16/2012 9:21:25 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, Romney's going in. Who knows if anything being said is actually true, but he's balls deep right now on this energy policy. 10/16/2012 9:21:36 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i have no idea if what is being said is true, but for some reason i find obama more believable 10/16/2012 9:22:49 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
the way romney is speaking, it sounds like he's giving a talk to a group of 3rd graders. smooth, un-animated boring snore snore blah blah blah
obama is more animated and more interesting to listen to
also, romney is trying to tell candy how to run this debate
[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 9:25 PM. Reason : HERE WE GO, Romney's tax plan] 10/16/2012 9:24:50 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://twitter.com/politifact
anyone know the deal on this oil drilling thing? why does it even matter if drilling is down on public land, if production is up overall? That seems like a good thing... 10/16/2012 9:24:56 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
So... Did Romney just admit that his plan is to eliminate most of his taxes?
I mean, it's not like that isn't known but it's weird to hear him say it out loud. 10/16/2012 9:27:49 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty much said he was removing deductions for the middle class and cutting his taxes 10/16/2012 9:34:46 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Obama hasn't got the memo about the $5T claim, huh?
Quote : | "—"Gov. Romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut." Here Obama uses an estimate from the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research group, that Romney's tax cuts would reduce federal revenue by $465 billion in 2015. Multiply that by 10 years — a common budgeting procedure in Washington — and he is in the ballpark in talking about $5 trillion. But Obama leaves out Romney's proposals to reduce or eliminate tax credits, deductions and exemptions. He is only counting half the plan. Romney has not specified what tax breaks he'd cut, opening himself to criticism that he's been stubbornly vague on vital elements of his plan. But there's no question he says he will pull some back, reducing the cost of his tax package." |
Link for Downtown http://www.wral.com/fact-check-be-your-own-fact-checker-tuesday-night/11662745/10/16/2012 9:36:37 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Did you miss the part right above your post where I said he was cutting deductions for the middle class? I also didn't mention that making it revenue neutral involves major cuts to Medicare.
Enjoy your child deduction? Enjoy student loan payment deductions? Tough shit! 10/16/2012 9:39:54 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Come on, a glass ceiling question? It's fucking 2012. 10/16/2012 9:39:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
binders full of women, that's something i can get behind.
Mitt shot himself in the foot with this women question, IMO. He sounds kind of sexist... 10/16/2012 9:41:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Town hall debates are dumb because the questions are all slow pitch floaters hanging over the plate 10/16/2012 9:52:46 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "savings from ending wars" |
Right.10/16/2012 9:53:21 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
That would be huge. The way Republicans sent us to war without including the costs in the budget is disgusting. 10/16/2012 10:01:35 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "—From the State of the Union on, the president has told the nation he wants to take "some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild America," as he put it in the last debate. There is no such pile of cash. The wars were financed mostly with borrowing. So treating the end of wars as a financial bonanza just means continuing to go deeper in debt to fix roads, bridges and the like. The potential benefit is that borrowing is put to more use at home. But it's still borrowing." |
[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 10:03 PM. Reason : .]10/16/2012 10:02:47 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Romney destroyed on immigration 10/16/2012 10:05:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I don't look at my pension, it's not as big as yours
BOOM! 10/16/2012 10:07:14 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
^^not according to the retard-dial on CNN
[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 10:07 PM. Reason : ] 10/16/2012 10:07:25 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Is Jason saying he killed the topic, or was killed by the topic? 10/16/2012 10:08:11 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry, I was saying Obama crushed him on it. 10/16/2012 10:10:19 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
ahh...alright then. 10/16/2012 10:11:46 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't look at my pension, it's not as big as yours cause I don't understand financials like you do" |
10/16/2012 10:11:57 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
...because I don't own the controlling share and make no decisions about how it's invested, unlike you mittens 10/16/2012 10:13:01 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Willard pwnt, stay home. 10/16/2012 10:17:57 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Hope Romney nails him on Fast and Furious 10/16/2012 10:18:05 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
"I'm afraid of the NRA"
"I'm MORE afraid of the NRA!" 10/16/2012 10:21:00 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Question: Romney, how will you keep automatic weapons off the streets? Romney: By requiring two people to get married before having kids. 10/16/2012 10:23:26 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
Correct answer: By making sure the government (BATF) no longer gives them out to Mexican cartels in Southern Texas. 10/16/2012 10:26:17 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Obama: We can't eliminate all of the mentally ill people. 10/16/2012 10:27:07 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
There's the 47% question. 10/16/2012 10:35:27 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
you know you wanna post it here, Jake. you can't help yourself 10/16/2012 11:04:25 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Obama won tonight's debate. The problem? Both candidates are still truly only going to answer to their big corporate and special interest donors. It's plutocracy 10/16/2012 11:06:27 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Three separate polls, CNN's poll, Public Policy Polling's poll, and the CBS News poll all calling this a victory for the President. CBS also found in its poll that Biden won the VP debate. Romney is really going to need a victory in the final debate next week. Early voting starts in 2 days. 10/16/2012 11:41:28 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
When CNN broke up the individual issues, Romney handily won everything except foreign policy.
How about not being a gay DNC delegate for a few minutes Supplanter? 10/16/2012 11:56:37 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Lol. Romney said to cyre gun violence womwn sshoulsd get married and ti cyre imigration just join the military 10/17/2012 12:06:47 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
set em up ------------> 10/17/2012 12:09:24 AM |