t beer. Discuss.

10/30/2012 8:06:43 PM

If beer is not in my belly it is literally the worst beer

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

10/30/2012 8:07:24 PM

is < draft but +1 to krallum

10/30/2012 8:09:35 PM

What are some examples?

10/30/2012 8:10:05 PM

I would thee allow me thusly regale mine inspiration for this thread, ere intoxication render me incapable.

I chanced upon an unfamiliar bottle from within my portable cellar, leftovers of a most excellent 'allow's eve gathering recently hosted within my court. As its chilled orifice took purchase upon my lips my olfactory was accosted by the belligerence of vindaloo curry. Recoiling in disgust I examined the label only to learn that such was in no manner an ingredient of the ale; alas, upon investigation, 'twas but the emanation of mine forefinger, a consequence of cleansing mine supping wares.

Being thusly occasioned to ponder the inexorable influence of burgeoning scent, I posit that the bottle's reduction thereof poses but monotonic detriment to any deftly crafted ale.

10/30/2012 8:36:33 PM

The makers of one of the best IPAs on Earth beg to differ



[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2012 9:10:38 PM

beer is better in glass than in metal, in general

10/30/2012 10:08:39 PM

^^^
Your writing style makes me [no homo]

Alas, I implore you to sample Crème Brûlée Stout from its bottle, rather than enjoying from a glass the aromas imparted by the brewing process.

10/30/2012 10:47:42 PM

this thread has convinced me to always accept a glass when offered one with a bottled beer

10/30/2012 11:54:07 PM

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"The makers of one of the best IPAs on Earth beg to differ"

Them's strong words, I'll have to try it. Are you saying it's actually better from the can than from a glass? That's all the reason I need for an experiment.

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"beer is better in glass than in metal, in general"

I agree, for better beers. I would rather drink domestic shwag from a can/bottle because I taste it less

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"I implore you to sample Crème Brûlée Stout from its bottle"

Here, a challenger! Sir, I accept.

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"this thread has convinced me to always accept a glass when offered one with a bottled beer"

I wouldn't go that far. Don't be that guy that drinks his miller lite bottles from a glass, but do accept the glass if it's a finer import or craft

Seriously though, I hate that guy. "Hey man you mind if I get a clean frosted glass with every new bottle of shitty fermented taint juice that I order?"

[Edited on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM. Reason : I mean if you want to wash all those dishes, ok that's fine. ]

10/31/2012 12:10:20 PM

70-75% of taste is based on smell

you can't smell a beer all that well in can or bottle

therefore, beer in a glass tastes better

10/31/2012 12:14:19 PM

are you saying that a great beer cannot be enjoyed more out of a different medium?

i dont get it. just because something has different features in different containers does not necessarily qualify the product to be of greater or lesser quality compared to other products in the same genre.

this really doesn't make sense. if a ferrari drives better on asphalt than on gravel do that mean it isn't a "great" car?

10/31/2012 12:29:28 PM

HEY EVERYONE, GO TO BADA AND GET A GLASS WITH EVERY CHEAP SHITTY BEER YOU ORDER!

10/31/2012 12:40:40 PM

^^Improper analogy. I think a better one is you can appreciate a ferrari at 35 mph, but where it really shows itself is at the higher speeds that showcase its unique qualities. You can appreciate a beer in a bottle/can, but I think you appreciate it better in a glass where you can perceive the color, bubbles, head, and aroma more easily.

10/31/2012 1:15:16 PM

im not sure what this thread is about

but there are some legitimate scientific inaccuracies in it

10/31/2012 1:16:38 PM

Yeah, I don't give a fuck what color my beer is.

Also I'm colorblind so I'm probably seeing the wrong color anyways.

10/31/2012 1:18:31 PM

LRlildaddy, see the post above yours


Pshoes, please highlight and correct as necessary

10/31/2012 1:49:11 PM

http://www.craftbeer.com/pages/stories/craft-beer-muses/show?title=should-the-shaker-pint-glass-go-away

10/31/2012 8:26:38 PM

I prefer beer in a bottle. It is easier to gauge my drunkness throughout the evening so I know when to stop so I can still make it home. Draft beers always creep up on me.

11/1/2012 10:35:38 AM

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"i dont get it. just because something has different features in different containers does not necessarily qualify the product to be of greater or lesser quality compared to other products in the same genre."

The container has a lot to do with carbonation, head, aroma, and flavor retention. Even the shape of a beer glass impacts retention, leading to differences in taste and experience. One has to separate storage containers from drinking containers. For storage, kegs are best, cans are next, bottles are last. Bottles and cans obviously make it easy to store and drink from the same item; however, to truly enjoy beer it should be poured into a glass appropriate for the style; none of which is a shaker, can, or bottle.

11/1/2012 10:46:54 AM

What is the correct container for buttchugging an IPA?

11/1/2012 10:49:37 AM

you would like sticking things up your butt.

11/1/2012 10:50:44 AM

a can of beer does not have beer touching any metal. there is a layer of plastic on the can.

also real not comercial beer is very good for you ontixidants and riboflavin and proteins and mineral water. even the alcohol is good for flushing out your kidneys and no kidney stones.

comercial beer is nothing buy sugar and alcohol.

11/1/2012 10:59:33 AM

It's also got fiber and keeps you regular

11/1/2012 11:03:24 AM

in a round about way, jcgolden brings up a good point.

modern canning processes lead to zero "leeching" or any metalic profile into the beer inside the can. basically the myth is still around because it used to be sorta true, but the processes are a lot better these days.

the fact that you can get more air out of the vessel than you can a bottle makes for a better product as well, preventing oxidation. oxidation can occur from either the air in the bottle (i dont think most of the macros, or anyone really co2 purges their bottles prior to filling) or the gradual seepage through the cap itself. it's inevitable, unless it's waxed or something. the sealing on a can prevents this better. oddly enough. although most people won't cellar or age cans. i have had aged ten fiddy before though. and it was delicious. let a stout sit in your trunk for a few weeks in the summer, then drink one that's been at room temperature. you'll notice it tastes cardboardy and stale. that's oxidation. you've expedited the oxidation by the heat.

secondly, it's impossible for a beer to get light struck in a can, where as even in brown bottles, a finite amount of light is being introduced to the beer itself. ever wonder why corona and heineken taste "skunked"? it's intentionally light struck. leads to that odd twinge in the back of your throat. leave a budlight outside in the sun for a couple of days and see what it tastes like. if you're going for a hoppy beer, the effect is even more magnified. hill farmstead growlers are black for a reason. i've even heard stories about their brewmaster (who's a world class nut job) not allowing his employees to walk around with a glass of IPA outside without covering it, to prevent any degradation to his product by light.

wdprice is right about glassware. you can get into legitimate scientific reasons explaining the gas flow around the proper glass effecting the taste of the beer due to how the scent approaches your mouth and nose, but i wont worry about it. tulips, snifters, and specifically shaped wine glasses tend to work well for me.

and never use a frosted glass.

and serve your beers at the correct temperature to allow for proper flavor profiles.

these are all just the way i understand things. but if it's coors light fuck it use a frosted glass and serve it ice cold to choke it in. i do it too.

i'm not the micro snob that won't admit that if im drinking to get drunk ill just drink macros.

about heady in a can... i kinda think it says to drink from the can because heady is pretty damn ugly beer when you put it into a glass. crack a fresh (less than 2-3 weeks since canning) one open though and you won't have a problem smelling the aromatics. you can sit it on the counter and smell it from across the room.

11/1/2012 11:16:51 AM

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"and never use a frosted glass. and serve your beers at the correct temperature to allow for proper flavor profiles. "

Yes, yes, 1000 times yes

11/1/2012 11:25:41 AM

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"The container has a lot to do with carbonation, head, aroma, and flavor retention. Even the shape of a beer glass impacts retention, leading to differences in taste and experience. One has to separate storage containers from drinking containers. For storage, kegs are best, cans are next, bottles are last. Bottles and cans obviously make it easy to store and drink from the same item; however, to truly enjoy beer it should be poured into a glass appropriate for the style; none of which is a shaker, can, or bottle."

I guess what I am assuming in the OP is that he means better out of a bottle than it is out of a can.

11/6/2012 12:24:52 PM

im not a beer guy

11/6/2012 12:25:28 PM

for some reason, darker beers (porters, stouts) taste better to me at room temperature than they do cold. I just leave them out in the kitchen until i drink them

2/18/2013 9:22:46 AM

stouts and porters are supposed to be enjoyed at warmer temps, so this is not out of the ordinary.

2/18/2013 9:24:14 AM

^^that's how it is supposed to be. Mid 40s to mid 50s depending on the stout; some even mid 50s to low 60s (imperials).

[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM. Reason : .]

2/18/2013 10:17:48 AM

mmmm, good. this thread is making me excited to get home and pop a people's porter

2/18/2013 3:26:09 PM

join the beer thread discussion.

2/18/2013 4:10:09 PM