11/5/2012 9:35:28 PM

bud
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11/5/2012 9:36:25 PM

vote yes on I-440

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 9:37 PM. Reason : CRAP MORE LIKE I-420 Ø]

11/5/2012 9:36:40 PM

Yooooo broski, vote on this bill meng. Budski for us broskis... uh what man, what is the bill about man? oh man... I'm so high broski, I forgot.

11/5/2012 9:38:05 PM

Bad stoner stereotype is bad

11/5/2012 9:41:03 PM

GOOOOOD NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS

11/5/2012 9:58:34 PM

^^ Shakka brah! that was the point

11/5/2012 10:08:13 PM

wow, great

11/5/2012 10:14:41 PM

11/5/2012 10:22:12 PM

^imagine going to the corner and getting a pack of those legally for like ten bucks

11/5/2012 10:36:37 PM

Marlbordro

11/5/2012 10:57:58 PM

wacky tobacky:

the one that doesn't give you cancer

11/5/2012 10:59:25 PM

^

11/6/2012 12:55:53 PM

wait...so is it legalized or is it just on the ballot?

11/6/2012 12:57:55 PM

do you think this would be a viable alternative for the tobacco industry?

11/6/2012 12:58:14 PM

not until big tobacco gets out of the federal government's ear hole

11/6/2012 1:01:53 PM

On the ballot in Colorado and Oregon as well.

Polls in CO say that it will likely pass.

11/6/2012 1:02:17 PM

Can't wait for this shit

Sucks sneaking around like I'm in middle school or some shit

11/6/2012 3:41:03 PM

Hell I have never smoked pot and dont ever plan to and even I say lets just get this shit done nationwide. Tax the hell out of it and cut half the DEA... thats a good way to start balancing the budget. Let the police focus on the shit that when people are on it kill someone and/or eat their faces.

11/6/2012 3:44:27 PM

Sure would be nice if the federal government would get the fuck out of the state's business with stuff like this. Unfortunately Obama has been more overzealous of his enforcement of federal drug laws than Bush, despite promising not to.

But yeah, pot should be legal, and in the states that it is the federal government should fuck off and keep the DEA out.

11/6/2012 3:45:50 PM

This could make my "out west" ski trips a lot more fun

11/6/2012 3:46:45 PM

They would be able to cut funding to the DEA but would just raise funding to the ATFM

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2012 3:48:23 PM

Pot-tourism FTMFW

11/6/2012 3:51:20 PM

Quote :

"Pot-tourism FTMFW"

for me this is just boppin over to the hood

11/6/2012 3:54:03 PM

You have so much street cred.

11/6/2012 3:58:24 PM

If a few states do it, it's only a matter of time before the others fall. Distribution will be impossible to control within the continental U.S.

11/6/2012 4:06:43 PM

Quote :

"imagine going to the corner and getting a pack of those legally for like ten bucks"

lol, a pack of tobacco cigarettes costs more than that in some states up north, etc where taxes are a lot higher

a pack of 'marlboro greens' would probably be like $200-$300

11/6/2012 4:09:57 PM

That's absurd. There's no reason to believe the price would be that high. The black market drives up prices.

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2012 4:12:14 PM

^^

^black markets operate more efficiently than legal markets, at least the marijuana one does, because it's pure supply and demand. no bullshit laws and regulations and tarriffs and all kinds of other ways the government middle-man's its way in

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:14 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:15 PM. Reason : jank]

11/6/2012 4:14:07 PM

Quote :

"black markets operate more efficiently than legal markets, at least the marijuana one does, because it's pure supply and demand. no bullshit laws and regulations and tarriffs and all kinds of other ways the government middle-man's its way in"

You can't be serious. The law says if you get caught moving a lot of the product, you go to jail or get fined. That adds a huge amount of risk into the market, which effectively causes the price to go up.

11/6/2012 4:17:32 PM

Quote :

"black markets operate more efficiently than legal markets, at least the marijuana one does, because it's pure supply and demand."

Yes, supply and demand.

What do you think happens to the supply when growing becomes legal and transportation/sales become safe and easy?

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2012 4:23:19 PM

weed is 'legal' in amsterdam, but its not much cheaper than it is here in the states, where its illegal

11/6/2012 4:27:34 PM

I'm not sure that's a good comparison since everything in Europe is way more expensive than here.

11/6/2012 4:29:20 PM

How much do ciagrettes cost there?

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2012 4:29:21 PM

tobacco cigarettes? i dunno

11/6/2012 4:30:41 PM

just to clarify- weed isn't "legal" in any modern country in the world. it is greatly decriminalized in some places, but you can still get in trouble if you piss the wrong people off

11/6/2012 4:33:25 PM

Portugal?

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : nevermind, I thought the legalized but they just decriminalized as well]

11/6/2012 4:34:48 PM

Oregon, Washington and Colorado all have full legalization measures on the ballot

Colorado is the most likely to pass

as a Portland resident, if just one of Oregon/Washington comes through, then i'm (acapulco) fucking gold

11/6/2012 4:59:52 PM

these threads always bring out the gutterrats of TWW

11/6/2012 5:06:41 PM

^ain't you an MMA dude

a lot of fighters get down with the sacred plant, or so it seems from being an avid Joe Rogan fan

[Edited on November 6, 2012 at 5:10 PM. Reason : ...]

11/6/2012 5:10:32 PM

I only trust BlackDog on this issue.

11/6/2012 5:12:17 PM

Who's going to move there?

11/6/2012 5:18:35 PM

Quote :

"a pack of 'marlboro greens' would probably be like $200-$300 "

the price of the tax free black market weed would go down so the price of taxed weed in the store couldnt be crazy high or no one would buy it.

11/6/2012 5:57:14 PM

So can employees drug test for weed in states where it is legal? I assume yes.

11/6/2012 6:00:44 PM

^Yes.

Part of 502 is that police can now drug test for DUID for weed. .08 nanograms is the legal limit (which no one has any clue how much that is).

It was pretty much a given to pass here in Washington for 3 reasons:

1) The DUID section comforts all the super-conservatives that people wont just be driving around stoned all day (which they already do).
2) Age limit will be 21 to purchase, like alcohol
3) There will be a 25% sin tax on marijuana.

According to the bill itself, retail price will be ~$12 per gram. Cigarettes are 1 gram. So a "pack of weed cigarettes" would cost at retail nearly $240. This will generate ~$300,000,000 per year in tax revenues for the state, and will reduce police enforcement costs by 20-30 million per year.

However, I can almost guarantee weed wont be sold in cigarette packs at all. Much more likely to be sold similar to eCigs (as a concentrate) or in bagged form for Marijuana itself. I think the BIGGEST product seller will be foodstuffs - cookies, brownies, and candy. There is already a huge industry in WA and OR for the paraphernalia, so buying bowls, pipes, bongs, vaporizers, et al is already super easy and cheap.

11/6/2012 11:29:47 PM

wait... in one move, they legalize, and in the other, they try to set the price? what the fuck, folks?

11/6/2012 11:40:46 PM

Passed in Colorado.

11/6/2012 11:56:44 PM

is this for everyone or just Colorado residents? i don't have the time to look at articles and shit

11/6/2012 11:57:32 PM

lol

not naming it prop #420

are you even trying hippies?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

11/6/2012 11:57:39 PM

Quote :

"According to the bill itself, retail price will be ~$12 per gram. Cigarettes are 1 gram. So a "pack of weed cigarettes" would cost at retail nearly $240. This will generate ~$300,000,000 per year in tax revenues for the state, and will reduce police enforcement costs by 20-30 million per year. However, I can almost guarantee weed wont be sold in cigarette packs at all. Much more likely to be sold similar to eCigs (as a concentrate) or in bagged form for Marijuana itself. I think the BIGGEST product seller will be foodstuffs - cookies, brownies, and candy. There is already a huge industry in WA and OR for the paraphernalia, so buying bowls, pipes, bongs, vaporizers, et al is already super easy and cheap."

It seems like at that price, the black market will continue to thrive. Are they going to require stamps on the bags or something...

11/7/2012 12:00:16 AM