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simonn
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i don't know why they wouldn't let him coach in the bowl game, but whatever.

i was going to get some work done today... but this might be the perfect excuse to stay home and celebrate.

11/25/2012 2:09:12 PM

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would love to get James Franklin, but how likely is it he bails on Vandy after 2 seasons and an 8-4 season? (5-3 sec)

11/25/2012 2:11:00 PM

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Yeah, so why would we fire TOB before the bowl game? That doesn't make sense to me, especially given his great record in bowl games

^I think overall program power. Vanderbilt is built like a high school right now compared to NC State.*

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1413486-vanderbilt-football-dores-need-to-keep-james-franklin-in-nashville

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"Let’s face it—Vanderbilt will never sell as many season tickets as they will to Rocky Top. Heck, you have to donate a certain amount of money to the Tennessee athletic fund just to have the right to buy season tickets.

Vanderbilt will never play in front of the 100,000-plus fans that pour into Neyland Stadium, and Northwestern will never play in front of the 100,000 that pour into The Big House.

It would be easy for guys like James Franklin and Pat Fitzgerald to look at greener pastures. Tennessee and Michigan are an easier sell to a four-star recruit than Vanderbilt and Northwestern. You have crazed fans, a terrific alumni base and a much bigger budget to work with in Knoxville and Ann Arbor.

So here’s why Fitzgerald stayed at Northwestern and why James Franklin should stay at Vanderbilt:

Coach Franklin is building something special in Nashville. Yes, he has to recruit on a national basis because of academics, but he currently has nine four-star recruits committed to play for the 'Dores right now.

If he stays at Vanderbilt, he will get the type of young men that go to Notre Dame, Stanford and Northwestern. These programs win and so can he—he's proved it.

I’ll tell you what should keep him in Nashville. He has a city, a school, an administration and most importantly, a football team that now believes they can win every Saturday. Vanderbilt, like Northwestern, believes they are going to win and should win every Saturday."


NC State probably has a better fan base*, facilities*, and administrative support than Vanderbilt*, especially considering that Yow has already hired the guy once at Maryland.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : *directly out of my ass]

11/25/2012 2:11:38 PM

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"North Carolina State coach Tom O'Brien has been fired after a disappointing 7-5 season, the school announced Sunday.

O'Brien will not coach in the Wolfpack's upcoming bowl game. Offensive coordinator Dana Bible has been named interim head coach, and all assistants have been retained through at least the bowl.

Even though O'Brien has led the Wolfpack to three straight bowl games, his teams have failed to live up to expectations throughout his tenure. O'Brien went 40-35 in six seasons -- but just 22-26 in the ACC.

"I appreciate the opportunity to have coached at North Carolina State University and I feel that the program is in a better place now than when I started," O'Brien said in a statement. "I'm proud of the young men that I have coached here, for their accomplishments on the field and in the classroom.

"Wolfpack football is as sound academically as it's ever been with a (single year) APR of 990 to be reported this spring. I appreciate all of my coaches and wish them the best and I look forward to life after football."

This season provided the perfect example of how North Carolina State fell short of what many believed could be an outstanding season. The Wolfpack were embarrassed in the season opener by a Tennessee team that won only one SEC game.

But the Wolfpack also pulled off one of the biggest upsets of the season when they took down No. 3 Florida State, 17-16, to put themselves in the driver's seat in the ACC Atlantic Division.

That was a short-lived dream. North Carolina State ended up dropping games to North Carolina and a head-scratcher to Virginia, and ended with losses in three of its final five games.

"Coach O'Brien's service to NC State over the last six years has been sincerely appreciated by Wolfpack Nation," athletic director Debbie Yow said in a statement. "We especially appreciate his attention toward NCAA rules compliance, a value that will continue to be held by NC State. We wish him well in future pursuits."

A closer look at O'Brien's overall ACC record reveals an 11-19 mark against ACC Atlantic Division opponents -- including 1-14 on the road."



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8674086/tom-obrien-fired-head-coach-north-carolina-state-wolfpack

11/25/2012 2:11:41 PM

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"@NickSaban: I'm at Raleigh-Durham International Airport (w/ @Rickbarnes + 22 others)"


THE BEST

11/25/2012 2:12:51 PM

The E Man
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I'd be happy to keep bible and get all new assistants.

11/25/2012 2:14:37 PM

skokiaan
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Great sports weekend

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ^troll]

11/25/2012 2:14:50 PM

sand robot
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^^ are you fucking serious?

E MAN credibility watch

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM. Reason : c]

11/25/2012 2:17:48 PM

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He was fired now so Debbie could get to work. And so he couldn't go out on a bowl win.

11/25/2012 2:17:50 PM

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"Yeah, so why would we fire TOB before the bowl game? That doesn't make sense to me, especially given his great record in bowl games"


Because if we wait that long we'll end up with a complete turd of a coach

11/25/2012 2:18:12 PM

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I think it is fitting that TOB went out with a victory over a terrible BC team in a game that was not televised.

11/25/2012 2:19:25 PM

sand robot
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as i mentioned before, it's all about recruiting. this gives the new coach more time.

then again we couldve pulled a (dirty) Ohio State and let him coach the bowl game while hiring another head coach and let him concentrate on recruiting while the other head coach worries about the game.

11/25/2012 2:20:24 PM

mkcarter
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Chizik available lolz

11/25/2012 2:21:25 PM

jbrick83
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I feel like this coaching search will be more interesting than the basketball one. We'll see how the rest of the country truly views our program.

11/25/2012 2:21:31 PM

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"Yeah, so why would we fire TOB before the bowl game? That doesn't make sense to me, especially given his great record in bowl games"


If you know you're gonna make the move now, why wait till January to do it? Especially with Arkansas, Tennessee, Auburn all looking for coaches. The bowl game is pretty much meaningless.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:22 PM. Reason : d]

11/25/2012 2:21:35 PM

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I guess, but its not like Yow can't work behind the scenes.

Also,

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"Debbie Yow will meet with media at 5 p.m."


Word on the twittersphere is that we're targetting Clemson's OC

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/25/2012 2:23:05 PM

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A bit of an aside, but...

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"i'll feel a lot better about this if/when we don't have a losing record next year."


We were expected to be anything next year? I haven't heard a peep out of the backup QB's this year and I was curious how we would do, with or without Tom.

11/25/2012 2:23:21 PM

skokiaan
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And Wilson just scored a TD. Suck it Obrien

11/25/2012 2:23:53 PM

laxman490
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Lololol

Dana bible is gonna coach the bowl game

11/25/2012 2:31:16 PM

SouthPaW12
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Bill Cowher or just shut the whole football program down. Tired of being ho hum. Better to just be a spectator.

11/25/2012 2:36:31 PM

Fry
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^^^^ chances don't get any better with a coaching transition. i said "if/when" for a reason. we could also get cowher and 10 Ws next year, not that it's even remotely likely.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2012 2:37:33 PM

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" don't know why they wouldn't let him coach in the bowl game, but whatever."


I'd bet that it has to do with the contract. if he coached the bowl game, we'd have to pay him bonuses, or some form of additional pay.

what sucks is that now we're going to drop in bowl consideration since we're "in flux" and Duke or Vtech might be given preference (read that, not original commentary)

11/25/2012 2:39:32 PM

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Winning <= 7 games NEXT year is not necessarily a failure. Doing so in the 4/5/6th year is...

11/25/2012 2:41:16 PM

Fry
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^^ we won't be able to get our own fans to go to our bowl, especially now (who really wants to see a Bible-coached bowl game with a downhill team?)

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2012 2:42:21 PM

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11/25/2012 2:42:41 PM

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there will be other teams not going to bowls who will also be firing their coaches

if we believe we'll be targeting some of the same guys as them, then we'd be better served firing TOB prior to a bowl game that's a month away

i don't see the confusion here

11/25/2012 2:45:16 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Clemson OC Chad Morris is the new coach.

Or Cowher

11/25/2012 2:45:29 PM

sand robot
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the problem is that the team was going to suckass next year regardless because of what TOB had lined up recruiting-wise.

so IBTTLBNC (in before the TOB lovers blame new coach)

11/25/2012 2:47:33 PM

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Dont let the door hit you on the way out O'brien. this should have happened two seasons ago!

11/25/2012 2:48:55 PM

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I don't really understand the Chad Morris talk. Dude was coaching high school ball 3 years ago and would cost a fortune considering he has no D1 head coaching experience. I don't see Yow going for someone like that.

11/25/2012 2:50:08 PM

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agreed about Morris. plus that bitch is getting paid now, surely he'd expect a significant raise as a head coach too

11/25/2012 2:51:19 PM

jbrick83
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Not a big fan of the Clemson OC option either...and I doubt Yow is. Word is that she values head coaching experience and is not likely to go after assistants. So if she does end up going that route...it's not going to be a guy that was coaching kids who's balls just dropped three years ago.

[Edited on November 25, 2012 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2012 2:52:01 PM

sand robot
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Chad Morris is not happening guysssss

11/25/2012 2:56:40 PM

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Debbie is not going to hire an assistant coach.

11/25/2012 3:00:07 PM

cptinsano
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Troll orgy itt

11/25/2012 3:05:20 PM

simonn
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hire the highest up person on nick saban's staff that's willing to come be our coach, imo.

11/25/2012 3:05:48 PM

ndmetcal
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Bama's assistant water boy spotted at RDU

11/25/2012 3:07:11 PM

erice85
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^^ theres something i can agree with you on

11/25/2012 3:21:54 PM

kdogg(c)
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I heard Hawaii has a new head coach. We should pick him back up.

Only too bad Glennon won't be here next year.

11/25/2012 3:25:02 PM

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RIP

DAMN

TOB

11/25/2012 3:25:40 PM

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oh the memories





http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/25/3687500/tom-obriens-career-at-nc-state.html

11/25/2012 3:26:05 PM

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I'm told Vandy's James Franklin is not a candidate at N.C. State"


crosspostin

11/25/2012 3:29:06 PM

laxman490
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morris would work if Stocker can run and has a decent arm.

11/25/2012 3:29:15 PM

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11/25/2012 3:30:46 PM

ndmetcal
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^google show cause

11/25/2012 3:32:16 PM

Ernie
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^Google ligaf

11/25/2012 3:35:00 PM

jcg15
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Bobby Petrino.

11/25/2012 3:35:50 PM

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Debbie is not going to hire a coordinator. If not Franklin...hmm. Could be a long search.

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"what sucks is that now we're going to drop in bowl consideration since we're "in flux" and Duke or Vtech might be given preference (read that, not original commentary)"


We were going to the bottom of the bowl barrel anyway. VT is a better draw than us anyway, so they're in the Russell Athletic or the Sun. If GT gets passed over for Orlando, they can fall no farther than Sun by league rules. Pretty sure Belk has already decided on Duke. So we're in Nashville no matter what.

11/25/2012 3:38:51 PM

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THE GHOST OF TOB IS UPON YOU!!!!1111!!!

11/25/2012 3:44:26 PM

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nashville you say?

11/25/2012 3:47:59 PM

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