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Talage
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"He doesn’t need a $6M contract. But in the $4M range is well deserved"

With as crazy as the salaries are getting....his results may actually be worth closer to the $6mil .

I believe Fuente (just fired at VT), Mendenhall (UVA), and Mike Norvell (FSU) were all already north of 4mil. And Narduzzi at Pitt is just shy of collecting 5mil this year...if you take out that 4-8 stinker year, Doeren's actually had a little better results than Narduzzi the last 5 years (and he's done it in the Atlantic).

Not saying I love the idea of paying a 9 win coach 5+ mil a year....but with the money the way it is today, that might just be the market rate now.

11/30/2021 11:22:22 PM

tower
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If Venables actually leaves, I'd do whatever needs to be done to keep this staff in tact

This is probably the one chance we have to take that step up the food chain

12/1/2021 12:31:32 AM

dmspack
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^^and that’s why it’s so silly to say the Doeren is overpaid. His results are out performing our investment in him/the program.

12/1/2021 6:27:57 AM

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"I believe Fuente (just fired at VT), Mendenhall (UVA), and Mike Norvell (FSU) were all already north of 4mil."


Dino kept his job and he is awful. Still clinging to that one fluke year winning 10 games. Outside of that season, he is 19-40!

I've been up and down with Doeren but that is nuts. He is way better than them. We could clearly do much worse. I think the frustrating part is that we are so close in many of these years to taking the next stop and we want Dave to do that. 2 conference losses by 4 points. We're ranked #18 and have a chance to beat a Big12 or Pac12 team in a bowl to win 10 games.

I think it does speak a lot to the culture he has built that we have so many players coming back. Saw a tweet where we were one of only like 6 p5 programs without a player in the portal so far.

12/1/2021 10:45:49 AM

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^ I think it was with 0 players enter the portal since 8/1. Surely some will transfer. But yeah it feels like he’s built a good culture here. Good foundation. And the trajectory for the program remains positive.

I think Dino’s buyout must be crazy high or something. Otherwise he’d be gone.

12/1/2021 10:53:52 AM

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^^Giglio is usually pretty good and says pac 12

12/1/2021 11:09:42 AM

Dynasty2004
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"I think Dino’s buyout must be crazy high or something. Otherwise he’d be gone."


some seem to think around 10mil to 15mil which is crazy and they cant afford it.

12/1/2021 11:35:17 AM

dmspack
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Good god. Yeah his agent did a good job

12/1/2021 12:01:08 PM

TKE-Teg
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Thanks fellas, appreciate the knowledge drops

12/1/2021 12:16:56 PM

HaLo
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College football coach buyouts is a great scam in sports. The fact that they aren’t tied to performance is insane.

[Edited on December 1, 2021 at 12:36 PM. Reason : .]

12/1/2021 12:36:22 PM

dmspack
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Oh yeah. There’s so much dead money out there paying coaches who aren’t employed by the school anymore. It’s ridiculous.

12/1/2021 12:58:17 PM

Dynasty2004
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Isnt Jimbo's 90 Mil or something? money isnt real lol.

edit. its complicated lol

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"Fisher's buyout with the Aggies is the largest in college football history at $95.6 million, but according to contract language, is a one-sided clause and only paid out if Texas A&M fires its coach for on-field performance before the end of the deal.

In other words, Fisher is free to leave the Aggies for another job under no financial penalty for his future employer should he so choose. That individual power is part of the reason Texas A&M's terms were so salivating for Fisher when he decided to leave Florida State for the SEC program."


[Edited on December 1, 2021 at 2:01 PM. Reason : edit]

12/1/2021 2:00:05 PM

HaLo
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“ only paid out if Texas A&M fires its coach for on-field performance before the end of the deal”

Ummmmmmmmmmmm

[Edited on December 1, 2021 at 2:09 PM. Reason : Z]

12/1/2021 2:08:52 PM

rwoody
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Jimbos on field performance is great, it's the players that suck ass

12/1/2021 2:23:41 PM

HaLo
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Yeah. That’s the problem with all those buyout contracts. They don’t have any allowance for getting fired for shitty performance. The way I’d have written Jimbo’s is something like if A&M finishes in the bottom quarter of their division 2 years in a row or more then A&M can toss him to the curb with no buyout

12/1/2021 2:36:20 PM

Dynasty2004
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"Venables likely to OU,"


KARMA

12/5/2021 10:32:00 AM

justinh524
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Congratulations on the rumor you previously posted with no evidence coincidentally turning out to be true!

12/5/2021 2:01:18 PM

Dynasty2004
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feels good man thanks!

12/5/2021 6:21:34 PM

Novicane
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Leary returns for 2022 season.

How much credit does Dave get in this?

12/9/2021 9:01:30 AM

rayef3rw
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Though I'm a big Dave fan in general, I wouldn't give him too much credit for this; to me it's a pretty easy decision. It's basically the situation Kenny Pickett faced last year, where he definitely could get drafted this year (especially cause the qb class is so weak), but it likely wouldn't be til lat, 5th-6th round imo. If he sits another year and does as good as we all think he will, then he's an easy 1st-3rd round pick depending on how things play out.

12/9/2021 10:38:19 AM

justinh524
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I think it will be pretty hard for Leary to play himself into "easy 1st round pick" territory. He's short and pretty one dimensional - two things that will always hold a QB back in the eyes of NFL decision makers. Even if he repeats his stats from this year, he's not gonna be a first round pick.

12/9/2021 10:52:51 AM

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^agree with that but also agree with ^^ (except the 1st round part).
If you want to give him credit for guys returning then maybe he’s more deserving in getting Durden, Moore, Wilson, etc to return than Leary. Don’t think Leary was ever really a serious threat to go pro.

I think Beck deserves criticism for how he calls games but as QB coach, I think he deserves a ton of credit for Leary’s development and even last year Hockman’s development/game planning around Hockman’s weaknesses

12/9/2021 11:03:15 AM

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If Leary was 6'4 and could run a little bit? Yeah I'd definitely have been worried about him going pro, even with a rather limited sample size as a starter. But since he's maaaaaybe 6'1 and has -20 career rushing yards? Nah not really.

The only way he's becoming a first round pick is if he goes all Joe Burrow on us and breaks like every single season passing record. So i don't think that's happening, but PROVE ME WRONG DEVIN.

12/9/2021 11:23:31 AM

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Yeah sorry 1st is optimistic for Devin, but people think Kenny could go day 1. I think Leary could be a solid late day 2/early day 3 pick though

12/9/2021 11:27:36 AM

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I don’t even know if he can’t run or if he just choose not to. He’s obviously not a scrambler by nature but a few times he has taken off, it’s not like he’s as slow as Rivers or somebody like that.

12/9/2021 11:39:18 AM

justinh524
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UM EXCUSE ME PHILIP RIVERS RUSHED FOR 96 YARDS AND 17 TDS IN COLLEGE THANK YOU VERY MUCH

12/9/2021 11:43:34 AM

dmspack
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Lol, yeah Rivers’ rushing TD total in college is wild. Quick check and he only had 3 NFL rushing TDs for his career lol

12/9/2021 11:52:35 AM

Dynasty2004
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^Philip had more reception TDs than that too at State. I think lol

12/9/2021 1:39:16 PM

tower
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If Leary repeats this season he's a 2nd-3rd rounder

He's not this year. We mightve been a bit worried if he hadnt gone hurt last year

12/9/2021 6:59:51 PM

justinh524
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+10 credibility for 10 wins and a holiday bowl championship

12/29/2021 12:00:51 PM

dmspack
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Went from “can’t win the big game” to teams canceling cause they scared in just 1 season.

12/29/2021 12:05:20 PM

dmspack
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Finished #20 in the AP poll. Pretty good.

1/11/2022 9:30:03 AM

Elwood
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but Clemson finished higher

1/11/2022 9:49:43 AM

dmspack
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Lol I didn’t realize that. If we could’ve played and won the bowl I’m guessing that would’ve pushed us up a few spots.

1/11/2022 9:54:05 AM

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+1 for DD, finishing the season ranked - NICE!

1/11/2022 10:08:21 AM

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