strictly for reading (without getting distracted by a bunch of apps, etc).


Any succinct arguments for one or the other? Or should I just stick to books?

12/18/2012 4:51:14 PM

first, ?topic=598530

second, from that thread:

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"the nook is more "open source" in that it runs android and supports the epub format (which is what a lot of libraries use to lend books for free)...as a general rule, you buy your books from B&N, but you CAN get them other places the kindle supports amazon's proprietary mobi format, which is perfectly fine if you think you'll buy books only from amazon and aren't interested in checking out books from the library (in wake county, at least, they're just now starting to support SOME mobi formats, but their epub collection is much much larger and it's easier to "check out" the books, last time i looked when i had a kindle) you can easily install a variety of free apps on your nook that will open both epubs and mobis, but rooting a nook isn't something your average consumer wants to do i was under the impression that amazon was going to start charging sales tax, so the advantage of that over B&N isn't an advantage much longer...prices for the same book at each place is going to be roughly the same as for the hardware, my last kindle (k3 keyboard) felt more substantial than my nook simple touch, but i haven't actually had any trouble with the NST...i really like the touchscreen on my nook and it was one of the reasons that i switched from the kindle...i also like that it has expandable storage because i use my nook for more than just e-reading, though for the VAST majority of people, it makes little difference...the newest kindles are slimmer, thinner, and lighter than the nooks...performance-wise, the kindle and nook e-readers are comparable in terms of cost, you can buy a basic (non-touchscreen with no integrated light) kindle with ads for $70 or a nook simple touch (still no integrated light) for $80 with no ads the kindle paperwhite (with touchscreen and integrated light) is $120 with ads...the nook simple touch with glowlight (touchscreen and integrated light) is $120 without ads and is lighter than the paperwhite"

neodata686 brought up that the kindle paperwhite screen DOES have a higher resolution, though i truly don't think it makes any difference unless you want to run a lower-than-low font size (the smallest i go on my nook is the second smallest)

the kindle paperwhite's screen is capacitive (like your phone, and it supports multi-touch) instead of IR, though i truly don't know what difference that makes in an e-ink screen (personally, i think their next big drop will be a hybrid LCD/e-ink screen and this might be the e-ink half's precursor to that)

the one thing i will say is that if you're an avid reader, get the kindle paperwhite or nook simple touch with glowlight...i wouldn't get rid of my non-lit e-reader for that, but the next one i buy will have it built in

tl;dr: buy whatever, you'll probably be equally happy with either

12/18/2012 5:05:40 PM

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"succinct"

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 6:27 PM. Reason : but I will take all of those words into consideration]

12/18/2012 6:27:14 PM

you're not going to go wrong with either...amazon has an ecosystem while B&N, for the most part, does not

so if you don't mind (or actively want to join) the ecosystem, go with the kindle

if you don't want to join the ecosystem and/or want to do more with your e-reader, go with the nook

either allows for the reading of books, and both do it well

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 7:04 PM. Reason : that's about as succinct as i can make it...the differences are minimal and you will be happy]

12/18/2012 6:59:57 PM

you gotta pay tax on b&n ebooks

12/18/2012 7:33:29 PM

love my nook

and you can change out the memory cards (not sure about the newest ones, I've had mine for years)

and read pdfs/epubs easily

honestly, I download more free books (mostly in epub format) and put them on my nook than I ever do buy them from B&N

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 7:42 PM. Reason : ,]

12/18/2012 7:41:01 PM

Which ever you get, it will do you some good to install http://calibre-ebook.com/

12/18/2012 8:06:47 PM

kindle because whispercast and amazon has a much better ecosystem

12/18/2012 8:14:23 PM

Don't think ecosystem matters with just the readers does it?

Regardless, both are good. Kindle has a better screen and brighter light while the nook has no ads and is maybe a little more ergonomic.

I have found amazon usually has better prices on books, especially if you don't have a b&n membership.

12/18/2012 8:31:13 PM

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"you gotta pay tax on b&n ebooks"

and on kindle ebooks, depending on the publisher: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=468512

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"Don't think ecosystem matters with just the readers does it?"

i mean, it can...IIRC, you can "lend" your ebooks purchased through amazon to others on your amazon account (or something like that)...that can be nice in the right situation

then again, there are (typically) more titles available at libraries for free lending (since epub is an open format), and the free lending process for epubs is less annoying than it is for mobi

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"I have found amazon usually has better prices on books, especially if you don't have a b&n membership."

i've seen the opposite (and i don't have a B&N membership)...but it definitely varies, and i don't HAVE to buy all my books from B&N because the nook doesn't limit access to an inferior proprietary format

admittedly, i have a bias...but when it comes down to it, either is going to be fine

12/18/2012 10:08:33 PM

The smartest thing to do it got a device where you can download apps and then you have use e-book store you want. Obviously the OP is not that serious about reading since he is easily distracted by the internets and shit.

12/18/2012 11:02:03 PM

Or am I?

12/18/2012 11:15:48 PM

I need a soft ass computer chair, any recommendations?

12/18/2012 11:18:15 PM

Nah

12/18/2012 11:24:05 PM

Yo bro:

As someone who has owned one of both... I love the Nook because I don't have to spend as much money on books. I lend books from Nook friends (this existed before Amazon added this feature, and yet gets attributed to Kindle somehow) with ease, check out from Wake county libraries (loooots of ebooks), get free non-copyright ebooks online (mostly classics), and then just load it up with lots of random accumulated reading material. For example, I have access to a Dropbox that's loaded up with small-press novels, chapbooks, poetry, et cetera.

I do enjoy Kindles as well, and I like Amazon's selection better than B&N, but it is a bit more restrictive, and I wasn't a huge fan of their software (I haven't tried the most recent Fire versions). But like I said, if you're just buying books... I really do like their selection better. However, B&N always had what I wanted to read e-book. Kindle does have the paperwhite though, which to me seems like the best option if you JUST want to read (at 69 dollars it's hard to beat).

...however I'm getting rid of my Nook Color (well, giving it to my girlfriend) and getting a Google Nexus 7, because I realized that I really just wanted a tablet that I could use as a e-reader when I wanted, not an e-reader I sometimes wanted to use as a tablet (Nook Color) if that makes sense.

12/19/2012 2:56:19 AM

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"just stick to books"

12/19/2012 3:19:20 AM

iPad for the win

12/19/2012 7:48:38 AM

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"iPad for the win"

not even a little bit...if we're talking about just reading, these tablets (whether 7" or larger) are completely irrelevant...yes, they'll let you read books, but the only worse thing for reading a book is a phone

e-ink is easier on the eyes, e-readers are SIGNIFICANTLY lighter, cheaper, and the battery life is amazing

sure, if you need/want a tablet with the secondary purpose of reading, get a tablet...if you want a device for reading, get an e-reader

12/19/2012 10:03:41 AM

Nexus 7 - $200

/thread

12/19/2012 11:23:50 AM

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"rooting a nook isn't something your average consumer wants to do"

I will second this.

However, I have a Nook Tablet that is fully rooted, and it's awesome. It was an amazingly powerful tablet for $250 last Christmas.

12/19/2012 1:56:39 PM

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"e-ink is easier on the eyes, e-readers are SIGNIFICANTLY lighter, cheaper, and the battery life is amazing sure, if you need/want a tablet with the secondary purpose of reading, get a tablet...if you want a device for reading, get an e-reader "

I totally agree. Reading on a tablet gets old quick. It's also hard to see the screen in bright light. I bought my Kindle on ebay for $75 and it has been great, especially for travel. Awesome alternative to a big book (which I can finish on a long flight anyway, leaving me bookless and bored)

The ads aren't too bad, they only display when the kindle is off (doesn't waste battery b/c of the e-ink) and as a banner ad at the bottom of the home page. Ads don't show up while you're reading. I went with Amazon because of the ease of using the online store. They always have a list of 100 titles for $3.99 or less. AND many libraries offer e-book loans in Kindle format Also since I have Amazon Prime, I can borrow one book a month for free.

12/19/2012 4:02:43 PM

Kindle. I've been with several generations of the Kindle and have absolutely no complaints. I currently have a Kindle Fire and think that it is fandamntastic along with Amazon Prime. However, I do miss the E-ink display because it is easier on the eyes. But it is pretty awesome to be able to do some movie watching and web browsing.

12/19/2012 6:19:53 PM

But how does the Kindle stack up against the Reader's Corner on Hillsborough?

12/19/2012 9:11:51 PM

I used to be hardcore books-only. But I have turned my coat! The main advantages of the Kindle over books are

1. Instant access. You can buy books right from the device with wifi! If I'm sitting on the couch at home and I want to read a new book, I can read it RIGHT NOW!! (at home I'd probably use my computer and not the Kindle's slow web browser, but if you're out and about you can use the Kindle to buy it)

2. Portability. E-readers are great for travel. In my pre-Kindle era, during a long day of waiting around in the airport I finished an entire Stephen King doorstop and was left with nothing to entertain me. The Kindle is smaller than many books, and you will NEVER run out of reading material!

3. Recommendations. It's creepy but also helpful. Amazon is always sending me emails of hot titles for under $3.99, or recommendations of books I might like based on my previous purchases. Yes, Amazon, I WOULD like to read a memoir about Paris! How did you know?? You can also remove a book from being used for recommendations if you didn't like it.

4. It's discreet. Nobody knows that you're reading the Hunger Games! I'll admit, once in a while I read a cheesy erotic novel or something that has an extremely embarrassing cover ... but people can't see the cover!

One disadvantage is cost. Kindle titles often cost in the range of $12.99 or so. For that price, I would rather have a real book. But if you just use the "Under $3.99" or "Daily Deals" list, you'll be fine. I have never paid more than $5 for an e-book.

Another disadvantage would be for books like travel guides, cookbooks, or some kind of reference material. Pictures tend to look weird/crappy, and for something like a travel guide I would rather be able to flip through pages to find what I want. But for a novel, the e-reader is fine.

12/20/2012 3:14:20 PM

1. Nerdchick is pretty awesome; or at the very least, expressly appears to be awesome.

2. Kindle it is.






Okay, Nookers, speak now or forever hold your paz

12/20/2012 4:00:26 PM

why anyone would buy a Kindle or Nook over the Nexus 7 is mind blowing to me. There is no comparison AT ALL.

12/20/2012 4:21:09 PM

I have a Nook color. I like it, but I want a Nexus 7

12/20/2012 8:19:30 PM

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"1. Nerdchick is pretty awesome; or at the very least, expressly appears to be awesome. "

No, I assure you, she is pretty awesome.

12/20/2012 8:27:08 PM

Kinoodle

12/20/2012 8:35:22 PM

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"why anyone would buy a Kindle or Nook over the Nexus 7 is mind blowing to me."

I like to sit down and read for long periods of time. The lighted screen on a tablet tires out your eyes and is difficult to read in bright light. The e-reader is a better choice if you just want to read. If you want apps or movies or a web browser, clearly the tablet is better.

PS ... to my TWW boyzzzz!

12/20/2012 9:43:43 PM

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"Okay, Nookers, speak now or forever hold your paz"

open-source, no ads for the same price!

seriously, though, the kindle is probably a more solid device if you aren't interested in significantly more free library offerings, don't mind being locked into a proprietary format, and have no desire to run a rooted, open-source device

those aren't knocks against the kindle...just the main differences that made ME choose the nook because i care about those things and a lot of people don't

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"why anyone would buy a Kindle or Nook over the Nexus 7 is mind blowing to me. There is no comparison AT ALL."

you're absolutely right...there is no comparison because there exists no tablet that is a better e-reading device than a product designed solely for e-reading

[Edited on December 20, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : also, my nook simple touch was $60 new...paying more than 3x that for a worse e-reader is silly]

12/20/2012 10:49:51 PM

Ive ended up using my nook as a tablet mainly. I like the feel of a book in my hands better than my nook.

12/20/2012 10:51:59 PM

I use my Kindle as an E reader. It beats the pants out of a book if you're a person who reads in volume. I kill a book in about 36 hours and want to start a new book asap. My Kindle rocks my socks.

12/20/2012 10:56:16 PM

I read all 7 harry potter books in 3 weeks, still prefer a book in my hand. Im old.

12/20/2012 10:59:36 PM

i left my nook in my wife's car the other day and was reading something that i also had a physical copy of...so when i wanted to read, i just went and got the actual book

i used to LOVE books...i mean, i still love reading, but it was the books themselves that i liked so much

...but when i was reading the book, i just found myself missing the ability to change the spacing and little things like that

the e-reader took a some getting used to, but now i prefer it to a book

12/21/2012 12:01:04 AM

So is there any significant difference denoted by "Paperwhite" vs "e-ink"?

IE - base model kindle vs more expensive 3G (but not e-ink)?

12/23/2012 7:17:04 AM

I like the Nook better

I don't buy any books, I get them all for free

mostly from the library but also other places

as far as I know this is not possible with the Kindle

[Edited on December 23, 2012 at 10:33 AM. Reason : m]

12/23/2012 10:33:30 AM

Nook.

12/23/2012 12:49:51 PM

^^ lol ... it came to my attention that a friend of mine pirated all the Game of Thrones books for his Kindle. (he said he's read all the books and I said, wow that must have been expensive, isn't the Kindle version like $13 each? Only if you pay for it) I was like wtf is the point of pirating books. If only there were a way to legally obtain books for free .........

And as far as I know, the only difference with the Paperwhite is that it can be lit up for reading at night. My brother has one and it's pretty nice, I wish mine had that feature. I have to use a crappy clip-on light.

12/23/2012 3:43:51 PM

Nook.

12/23/2012 9:41:10 PM

Well. Damn.

12/23/2012 10:20:23 PM

^^^last time I checked there was a waiting list like 15-20 deep for ASOIAF books through wake co libraries. Even a wait for the e-versions

12/23/2012 10:22:48 PM

Kindle
(also very easy to get books on discount for Kindle)

12/23/2012 11:28:04 PM

cut this EUPHALO shit out, grayfox

12/24/2012 12:17:06 AM

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"So is there any significant difference denoted by "Paperwhite" vs "e-ink"? IE - base model kindle vs more expensive 3G (but not e-ink)?"

like Nerdchick said, in this case it's primarily the lighted screen...technically, the screens ARE different, though

the base kindle and all the nooks use the same same screen (i mean, not exactly, but there is no significant difference)

the "paperwhite" screen is amazon's trademarked name for their new e-ink display (capacitive instead of IR, and it has a slightly better resolution than the basic kindle and all of the nooks)

the lighted nook screen is really just a "regular" nook screen with tiny LEDs along the edge that shine out over the screen when you turn it on (the paperwhite is the same type of thing, but they only offer the light with their new screen)

12/24/2012 9:24:47 AM