paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever idiot did the brakes last on my bike (first time I've had to replace pads since I bought it) used an absolutely retarded amount of thread locker on all the caliper bolts. I've been able to break them all free with varying degrees of difficulty using combinations of brute strength, penetrating oil, torch, hammering, etc, but the pad retaining bolt (recessed 5mm hex) on my rear caliper absolutely will not budge.
Ended up destroying 2 hex wrenches before finally rounding the fucker off. Got a 4-6mm extractor from Advance, drilled it out, tapped the extractor in, and the end broke off within about 30sec of torquing it.
This is what I'm stuck with:
I don't really know what to do next but I need this fucker out ASAP. I don't have any welding equipment. I thought about squooging some high-torque RTV in there around the allen key and letting it cure to try and keep it from slipping but I imagine that'd only make a big fucking mess. Any suggestions?
[Edited on January 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM. Reason : asldkfjas;dfk] 1/6/2013 9:24:22 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
it doesn't do you much good now, but usually heat is the best way to handle loctite.
i'd find someone who can weld a bolt on it, then melt the loctite. 1/6/2013 9:39:59 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
yeah the torch didn't do anything for this one. I'll go the welding route if it comes to it, just looking for any other simple genius before I go to that trouble 1/6/2013 9:53:18 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder what homeboy put on the threads 1/6/2013 10:15:50 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
JB Weld. :beatup : 1/6/2013 10:38:05 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
i'm starting to feel like it haha
also, I have such a love/hate relationship with bikebandit...easy to find the exact OEM part and then pay 4x what you should for it 1/6/2013 10:46:22 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " used an absolutely retarded amount of thread locker on all the caliper bolts" |
the correct amount is ZERO. safety wire if you must1/6/2013 11:09:44 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 6, 2013 at 11:31 PM. Reason : .]
1/6/2013 11:11:21 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
I think I'm gonna see if I can drill it out with a bigger bit and try the extractor again...failing that, try to grind a couple flat spots on the exposed part of the pin and see if I have any luck with a wrench. If no luck there, gonna try to drill a hole or two perpendicular to the bolt axis and see if I can't get something through it to get some leverage (would be nice if my leather awl would fit and hold up to some serious torque)
anyway, all has to wait till tomorrow 1/6/2013 11:49:43 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
nothing like baked on loctite. 1/7/2013 7:46:52 AM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
my money is on red loctite! 1/7/2013 7:51:18 AM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
if it weren't for the broken extractor, I'd get a drill bit and drill the set screw to smithereens 1/7/2013 6:00:19 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
use a 4 flute carbide ball endmill. 1/7/2013 9:28:16 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Is this for all complaints or just paerabol's? lol
My fucking tail lights on the 64 valiant, I thought they were working. Electrical things are not my strong suit...
Press brake pedal, both lights fine.
Left turn signal, fine.
Right turn signal, fine.
Brakes + right turn signal, fine.
Brakes + left turn signal, just the signal and no right brake light. Fuck!
So god damn annoying! How do I fix? 1/8/2013 12:43:35 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
when you shut off the left turn signal does the right brake light come on? 1/8/2013 2:17:08 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. 1/9/2013 5:09:17 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "use a 4 flute carbide ball endmill" |
If I can't get it done with shit I already have in the garage I'll give that a shat
Quote : | "Is this for all complaints or just paerabol's?" |
No man this is a community thread. I'm sure I'll be in here from time to time but this is the general stupid-bullshit-that-happens-in-the-garage-that-is-or-would-have-been-an-easy-fix-if-someone-along-the-line-(usually-myself)-hadn't-been-a-flaming-moron thread1/9/2013 11:05:28 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
took the die grinder to it to make some flat spots on the top and bottom of the pin and torched it again while wrenching on it...broke it about 90 degrees and repeated process. took over an hour but I got the fucker out. here's the offender:
1/13/2013 8:48:36 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so very happy for you. Didn't realize you could get pliers on the back of the bolt, that does make things easier.
Now be sure to use plenty of threadlocker when you reassemble.
Actually, a dab of medium strength threadlocker shouldn't be a problem. At the very least clean the threads and torque it down to spec, you don't want that bolt going AWOL in the future.
Allen head bolts are terrible. Torx are nearly as bad. Great for manufacturers, but they don't hold up over the long term.
[Edited on January 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .] 1/13/2013 9:40:43 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
yeah some of the allen bolts on this bike baffle me. Like a rear brake MC reservoir heat shield bolt that sits directly behind the forward exhaust pipe, making it damn near impossible to get to and turn more than 30* at a time. The kicker: the outside of the bolt head is smooth and round so I can't get a wrench on it. assholes.
Anyway, thanks. Just to piss off smoothcrim I've been putting a dab of blue loctite on errythang.
figger it out yet y0willy0? 1/13/2013 10:45:11 PM |
BIGcementpon Status Name 11318 Posts user info edit post |
That looks like a huge pain, Dave. Glad you got it going.
For y0willy0's tail light problem, almost every time I've seen something like that happen, it has been due to poor grounding. Whether there's a wire or the ground comes from direct contact with the housing and the car body, it's a good place to start checking with a voltmeter. 1/14/2013 8:11:32 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
No luck yet but I'm going to take ^this suggestion.
Thanks for the suggestion cementguy!
God knows I can feel for you paerabol. I broke a few studs on that Ford 260 I was taking apart the other day and they're going be fun to dig out. I decided since nobody wanted to buy it that I would rebuild it about 90% and re-assemble it in such a way that my 6yo nephew can easily take it apart and learn about engines.
Not putting the rings on the pistons, not torquing everything properly, etc. Should be an interesting exercise that makes him less of a sissy. 1/14/2013 3:51:54 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Valiant ate a piston ring.
Yaaay. 3/6/2013 11:06:58 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
want ford power?
352 is almost out 3/6/2013 12:04:57 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Not exactly what I had in mind. 3/6/2013 4:13:45 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Lol (you do know I despise cross brand swaps right ?) 3/6/2013 5:24:56 PM |
slut All American 8357 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "making it damn near impossible to get to and turn more than 30* at a time" |
There are times I'd have given my left nut to turn a wrench a whole 30 degrees at a time.3/6/2013 6:08:22 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
http://m.sears.com/productGallery.do 3/6/2013 6:16:46 PM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
was about to say there are ratchets available with 84-teeth 3/7/2013 7:34:02 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
I for the life of me can not go into sears anymore. The dumb fucks don't know a fuckingthing about tools. 3/7/2013 10:27:59 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
Then that is where you should go. 3/8/2013 1:32:15 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of tools 3/8/2013 10:27:58 PM |