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Supplanter
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Was this evening's 60 Minutes interview an unofficial announcement? I wonder what Vice President Biden, Governor Cuomo, and Governor O'Malley made of this interview?

1/27/2013 11:41:38 PM

jwb9984
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LOL at Biden running in 2016

1/27/2013 11:53:33 PM

moron
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How old is hillary compared to other presidents?

It would be tactically nuts for hillary to announce now, but I think everyone knows it's clearly a possibility.

[Edited on January 28, 2013 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ]

1/28/2013 1:14:26 AM

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i wonder if she got other women's juices in her vag because of Bill's philanthropy. jk i prolly gonna end up doing a lot to get her elected.

1/28/2013 2:04:19 AM

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^^If she won the 2016 election, she would be the second-oldest President ever at inauguration, at just under 69 and a half years of age: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age

^plz stop making my side look bad

1/28/2013 2:27:57 AM

The E Man
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she will not run they will get that cute hispanic twin dude.

1/28/2013 2:52:56 AM

Supplanter
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^Mayor to President would be too big of a jump. Maybe in 2020 if [insert GOP white male here] wins in 2016.

1/28/2013 9:35:40 AM

moron
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She's too old to be president, she wouldn't win.

1/28/2013 10:36:10 AM

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she's not gonna run

1/28/2013 12:34:22 PM

Supplanter
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^^I think that's part of the reason why Biden is making noise about running. He's in his 70s, she's in her 60s, so it helps give her a little cover. Also maybe he thinks making noise about staying around DC longer gives him more political capital. But I'm quite confident he wont run.

I think future-Senator Cory Booker wants to run, but I think he'll be too new on the national stage to do it this time around.

The polling for the Democratic Primary for the 2016 presidential election so far has Hillary in the lead, followed by Biden, followed by Cuomo, followed by Senator Elizabeth Warren, followed by Russ Feingold, followed by Goveror Deval Patrick.

Brian Schweitzer and Mark Warner have consistently polled under 5%. Of course all polls these far out are next to useless, other than in providing a list of names people are thinking about as possible candidates to run. I've heard Kirsten Gillibrand's name thrown around a little bit too.

1/29/2013 1:50:20 AM

Supplanter
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Another thing she has talked about is doing philanthropy and advocacy. She mentioned the issue of how women are treated abroad as an area she wants to work on when leaves office in her exit interview with Andrea Mitchell today.

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1/30/2013 9:56:04 PM

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I think she improved her rep over the last 8 years. No longer some shrill uber lesbian.

1/30/2013 10:12:40 PM

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She gave her final farewell speech to the staff today as her last day as Secretary of State. John Kerry was sworn in this afternoon.







[Edited on February 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2013 6:25:35 PM

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"I think she improved her rep over the last 8 years. No longer some shrill uber lesbian.
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Agreed. Though I didn't think she was a shrill uber lesbian, just a shrill cold (and slightly stupid for sticking with Bill) woman.

2/1/2013 6:36:11 PM

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I had no idea back then that she had been avoiding the State Department's e-mail system.

4/9/2015 8:35:27 PM

HockeyRoman
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IT'S OFFICIAL.

Let the conservative freakout/backlash begin!
From Drudge:


[Edited on April 12, 2015 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .]

4/12/2015 3:38:15 PM

The Coz
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Looking good, Moose!

4/12/2015 8:31:37 PM

CuntPunter
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Jeb Bush will destroy her.

4/12/2015 8:47:35 PM

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She's not the candidate democrats want, she's not the candidate anyone needs, but i guess she's the candidate that democrats deserve

4/13/2015 8:53:31 AM

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if we end up with a Hillary vs Ted Cruz election, we should just fucking give up as a country.

4/13/2015 9:56:18 AM

Str8BacardiL
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I am not sure how to deciper the fact that the white house email system was recently hax3d by a foreign entity but clintonemail.org has never been.

Maybe HC will be better at cyber security.

4/13/2015 2:44:07 PM

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"She's not the candidate democrats want, she's not the candidate anyone needs, but i guess she's the candidate that democrats deserve"


Tell that to Shrike...

Actually I want Shrike to explain why he's such a fan. It's not enough to simply say "Well look at the alternative!"

It's pretty obvious to me based on his posting history he has no principles at all besides "Republicans suck." I agree, but that's not my ethos in its entirety. This is why he's a joke-

4/13/2015 3:04:06 PM

Shrike
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I'm not really sure how or when I got an internet stalker, but you flatter me y0willy0.

..

Hillary is a crappy candidate, and in a regular campaign, I wouldn't want her to run because she'd probably lose. But there are just no other Democrats up to her level right now, and it would be stupid to throw the weight of the party behind anyone else when Obama and the GOP are practically rolling out a red carpet for her. Remember, electing someone, anyone, with a D next to their name is a substantive win all by itself, a fact which has been empirically proven:

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/2kzpk7/the_big_list_for_all_those_who_say_why_should_i/

That's what happens when your entire opposition has been taken over by extremists. Priority one is winning elections.

[Edited on April 13, 2015 at 4:18 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2015 4:17:36 PM

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Hillary Clinton strikes me as an unlikable version of Frank Underwood. It is hard to put into words exactly what that all entails, but it is the best description I have. They are both clearly fake on the outside, but Hillary comes off as completely fake while Frank still exudes charisma. While corrupt and two-faced, I would also say that Frank at least still comes off as sincere in his plans to make things better. Again, everything about Hillary seems so insincere. (Yes, I know I am comparing a real person to a fake person).

[Edited on April 13, 2015 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]

4/13/2015 4:20:15 PM

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"lewisje and Shrike are the kind of embarrassing idiots that Democrats need to marginalize / discard.

All that matters to them is the "D" that comes after any given politician's name. They are the "political hobbyist" equivalent of a Duke basketball fan who buys a T-shirt at Wal-Mart and then asks a coworker when the championship game is."


[Edited on April 13, 2015 at 5:15 PM. Reason : -]

4/13/2015 5:14:53 PM

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"Speaking in Iowa Wednesday, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that all her grandparents had immigrated to the United States, a story that conflicts with public census and other records related to her maternal and paternal grandparents.

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pants on fire

guess she couldn't destroy those records like the emails about foreign campaign contributions


[Edited on April 16, 2015 at 6:02 AM. Reason : f]

4/16/2015 5:56:42 AM

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IOP1

she's going to win regardless of how much the right hates the clintons

4/16/2015 8:50:06 AM

sumfoo1
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sad thing is i might vote just a little right this time if they offered that. But those assholes are going to post up some gun-toting (yeah i do that too), D-bag winger...

4/16/2015 10:42:09 AM

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iop1

4/16/2015 11:07:32 AM

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It would be difficult to find a candidate that the Republican base hates more than Hillary Clinton. Wild horses can't stop the elderly Fox News watching contingent of voters from voting against her, and it frankly doesn't matter who the GOP nominates to challenge her from the perspective of that block.

Now, can Republicans pick someone that simultaneously fires up the base and doesn't completely disgust independents? Hard to say this early.

4/16/2015 7:47:40 PM

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"Now, can Republicans pick someone that simultaneously fires up the base and doesn't completely disgust independents? Hard to say this early."


Nope.

4/16/2015 9:20:48 PM

sumfoo1
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Yeah... see my post above.

they're going to pick a male sara palin and run on the "do you really want a girl running your country" platform.



When i could vote for mccain with an equally legit vp that i can't think of right now.

Or someone like pat.

[Edited on April 17, 2015 at 7:37 AM. Reason : .]

4/17/2015 7:35:55 AM

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I'm not for Cruz, but on that same token, a vote for McCain is pretty much a vote for a Democrat. I thought Romney was our best candidate in a while, and the extreme religious right cost us his presidency. Now the best we can hope for is Bush or Walker, and neither is ideal.

But how anyone could vote for Hillary, I have no clue.

4/17/2015 10:40:44 AM

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she's still better than Bush and Walker. they will all surround themselves with big money corporate influence and war hawk assholes, but at lease one won't shit on as many civil liberties

4/17/2015 11:01:53 AM

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^^Really? Rick Scott, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Ted Cruz, Peter King, Steve King, Alan West, etc ...... those are all things that actually exist, and many people voted for them and still do! Some of them even got votes for President! But people voting for Hillary Clinton is beyond comprehension for you?

[Edited on April 17, 2015 at 2:02 PM. Reason : :]

4/17/2015 2:01:54 PM

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Logic fail

4/17/2015 2:47:55 PM

y0willy0
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Shrike looks like he's having a stroke in this thread and others.

[Edited on April 17, 2015 at 3:26 PM. Reason : -]

4/17/2015 3:26:38 PM

Shrike
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That would explain why I just donated money to her campaign

4/17/2015 4:25:41 PM

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I am disappointed in Obama for not trolling the republicans more lately. That was some Grade A trolling on immigration, their bluff got called quickly, but not before they all went on record as being totally opposed to any type of meaningful immigration reform.

I expect him to rub their noses in the shit more for the last couple years of his presidency, the government shutdown, their stance that the ACA would destroy the country, all that is red meat he wont use bait the GOP candidates in to saying shit that can be used against them later.

4/17/2015 4:40:28 PM

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Since there's not 2016 Dem Primary thread - who are the potential Dem candidates insiders expect to emerge other than possibly Warren or O'Malley? Those seem to be the only two names being floated in the media, but an open election is obviously going to bring out some additional competition.

4/18/2015 8:16:56 AM

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unless Hillary Clinton totally kicks it into the stands here fairly soon, I don't think any serious contenders will really emerge, unless they want to just go through the motions to get their name out for a future attempt, which is a double-edged sword itself.

4/18/2015 11:44:18 AM

Shrike
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^^^He's been bringing the fire and brimstone lately over Iran and now this AG nomination. Even the WH press secretary has gotten in on it,

Quote :
"On Thursday, White House spokesman Josh Earnest singled out Grassley, noting that Grassley had once urged Obama not to push through Lynch during the lame duck Senate in November and December but now said Democrats should have acted on her when they had a Senate majority. Earnest called Grassley's stance "duplicitous."

Asked how harsh words might help his cause, Earnest replied: "Being nice has gotten us a 160-day delay. So maybe after they look up 'duplicitous' in the dictionary we'll get a different result.""

4/18/2015 4:50:55 PM

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He's truly a leader of men, a builder of consensus, and oversees the most transparent administration in history. What a guy.

4/19/2015 12:53:19 AM

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HC is an alien.

4/19/2015 10:47:14 PM

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http://nypost.com/2015/04/20/book-claims-foreign-cash-made-bill-and-hillary-filthy-rich/

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"Hillary Rodham Clinton used her clout as secretary of state to do favors for foreign donors who gave millions to her family foundation — and who paid millions more to her husband, Bill, in speaking fees

During Hillary’s four-year stint as secretary of state, the ex-president earned about $48 million of a $105?million speaking haul amassed between 2001 and 2013.

More than half of the $48 million was paid by companies in China, Japan, Canada, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and the Cayman Islands, among others.

The author writes that “of the 13 Clinton speeches that fetched $500,000 or more, only two occurred during the years his wife was not secretary of state.”"

4/21/2015 2:40:06 PM

y0willy0
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breaking: the clintons are dirty rats and love money

join us for more exciting headlines after family feud

4/21/2015 2:54:23 PM

Kurtis636
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Yup, this is another fun one. It appears that Hilary traded influence and favors to foreign nations/interests in exchange for large sums of cash given to Bill for speeches.

But at this point what difference does it make?

4/21/2015 11:36:57 PM

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Are there any details on what type of "favors" she gave?

Seems like most politicians do this anyway so i don't see this attack sticking but it would be interesting to know what "favors" she has to give out.

4/21/2015 11:48:08 PM

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if that's where you're gonna go with that, what exact influence and/or favors were traded?

because once you get past the attention-grabbing headlines/bolded parts, you gotta be able to back it up. (and I say this as someone who isn't a fan of Hillary Clinton)

seems to me like the author of the book is another Glenn Beck-like figure who is into connecting things on a chalkboard and selling a book than actually proving anything with verifiable facts

[Edited on April 22, 2015 at 12:05 AM. Reason : .]

4/21/2015 11:53:25 PM

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"Are there any details on what type of "favors" she gave?
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i suspect the answers to that question were on the email server she illegally burned in the backyard.

4/22/2015 7:34:30 AM

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