sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
It's not going to happen in the next year or so but Marijuana may very well be legal in the next 5 years. With the legalization for marijuana for recreational use in Colorado and Washington State. the Feds have been forced to address the Federal ban on marijuana and how they will uphold the current law. Now some legislators are proposing bills to remove marijuana from the controlled substances list and set up the foundation for taxing legal marijuana.
Quote : | "Members of Congress will introduce between eight and 10 bills to roll back federal marijuana restrictions and levy new taxes. The first two were introduced this week by two liberal members of Congress. Reps. Jared Polis, D-Colo., and Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., on Monday rolled out a pair of bills that would legalize and tax marijuana at the federal level, while still allowing states to ban it." |
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/02/pot-legalization-goes-federal/
Additionally, other states, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, now have legislative proposals to on the table to be introduced. The tide has definitely turned towards legalization and looks to be following the same trend that ended alcohol prohibition in 1933. Times are a changin'2/11/2013 6:19:36 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
With the first couple of dominos already down for this, it's only a matter of time before other state governments and the federal governments decide to get in on the cash. Feigned moral outrage is quickly erased by guaranteed easy money. 2/11/2013 8:06:04 PM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I've also been reading some recent developments that Mexico is considering legalizing mj. That would be a game changer.
Still, for America to succeed at this we have to get some R's to cosponsor this legislation at the state level first and for that to happen the Republican party has to fundamentally change. So how to influence that? I guess its time to brainstorm.... 2/11/2013 8:27:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Would be genius if they passed this. So many benefits 2/12/2013 12:04:29 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
If tobacco companies can get into the business, then republican politicians will quickly swing their vote. Big money talks. 2/12/2013 10:10:54 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Tobacco companies, beer companies, and companies that run private prisons are the big people opposed to it 2/12/2013 10:11:51 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I'm all for it. Wasting manpower and other resources fighting MJ is utterly retarded. Get with the times governments... 2/12/2013 10:15:56 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Federal employees and their unions are also against this. 2/12/2013 10:18:39 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, there's a lot of federal manpower that will not be needed if marijuana is legalized. Anything that threatens the jobs of federal union workers will be lobbied against vigorously by those groups. The entire law enforcement/judicial/penal system relies on drugs being illegal for a large portion of their business. 2/12/2013 10:28:42 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
But...the unions! Workers rights...to put you in prison for possessing plant matter. 2/12/2013 11:05:26 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
yea, I'm sure the cop unions are the only thing standing in marijuana's way 2/12/2013 11:26:25 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
You're thinking of it incorrectly. When they legalize marijuana, they'll simply create a large, complex bureaucracy to regulate it and crack down on those who grow and sell it without proper licenses. 2/12/2013 11:49:43 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yea, I'm sure the cop unions are the only thing standing in marijuana's way " |
I don't think anyone is saying it's the only thing, it's just a thing.
Quote : | "When they legalize marijuana, they'll simply create a large, complex bureaucracy to regulate it and crack down on those who grow and sell it without proper licenses." |
That's exactly what will happen, just like with every other industry. That's why it's critical to get into the industry when it's new; whoever makes it to the top can then buy off politicians and ensure that any competitors are shut down.
[Edited on February 12, 2013 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ]2/12/2013 12:06:47 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
this is an interesting article about Marijuana use among tech workers in Silicon Valley
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-28/silicon-valley-is-high-on-innovation-dot-and-pot?campaign_id=bw.taboola.hp 3/5/2013 1:28:43 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
is there anybody on here who is legitimately against ending marijuana prohibition?
[Edited on March 5, 2013 at 2:16 PM. Reason : V obviously there are nationally, meant on this board] 3/5/2013 2:07:19 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
^umm.. yes. 3/5/2013 2:12:50 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
just checking in to make sure that we're all against Stop and Frisk, regardless of our political leanings
and to restore some faith in humanity 6/25/2013 1:38:02 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/index.html 8/11/2013 8:34:27 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/09/opinion/samuels-pot-addiction/index.html?hpt=op_t1
This guy with no medical degree that founded a drug rehab center and did no additional research seems to be trying to counter ^this by talking about lazy pot heads and having to explain to his grandson about why everyone thinks marijuana should be legal, when the author always told him that it was bad..
[Edited on August 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM. Reason : found it/.] 8/11/2013 10:36:50 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^so he thinks people should not go to jail for weed but he is against legalizing it? uhhh 8/12/2013 10:17:51 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
this looks encouraging
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/holder-seeks-to-avert-mandatory-minimum-sentences-for-some-low-level-drug-offenders/2013/08/11/343850c2-012c-11e3-96a8-d3b921c0924a_story.html 8/12/2013 11:04:42 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
decriminalization is a bad solution unless it is followed closely by legalization because it will strengthen demand. any supply done by criminal enterprises will grow from the increased demand.
you need to legalize it so that legal supply can grow to meet the legal (or less-illegal) demand 8/12/2013 11:08:19 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/federal-judge-says-stop-and-frisk-violates-constitution/68222/
bout time 8/12/2013 12:08:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/16/politics/new-jersey-medical-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 8/16/2013 3:48:55 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I thought this was pretty cool.
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/08/14/police-to-hand-out-bags-of-doritos-at-seattles-mega-pot-festival/
Quote : | "So, will Seattle police respond by handing out tickets for displaying cannabis in public, for instance? That’s one of the new laws spelled out in I-502. Will their approach to the big pot fest change at all this year?
Nope, said SPD spokesman Sean Whitcomb, but they will be handing out Doritos." |
http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2012/11/09/marijwhatnow-a-guide-to-legal-marijuana-use-in-seattle/
[Edited on August 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM. Reason : :]8/16/2013 4:10:01 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/08/16/christie-eases-access-to-medical-marijuana-for-sick-children/?test=latestnews 8/16/2013 9:27:42 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
I think this is going to steadily unravel now just like gay stuff.
let's see how the GOP reacts, haha. Hopefully they either get with the program, or fight the wrong side of social issues with renewed vigor, all the way to their extinction. 8/16/2013 9:56:43 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
They could shut up all the not in my backyard whining about weed if they would only legalize it for home delivery distribution, and probably create some jobs at the same time. 8/16/2013 11:51:03 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think this is going to steadily unravel now just like gay stuff.
let's see how the GOP reacts, haha. Hopefully they either get with the program, or fight the wrong side of social issues with renewed vigor, all the way to their extinction." |
8/17/2013 9:54:07 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
If republican strategists were any smart they would make it "their" platform before the dems take it. Not like your standard republican voters would switch to the other party over something like this.
That's not going to happen though, because the anti-marijuana movement's deep roots in race-baiting and fear mongering are still proving useful in rallying the GOP base. As long as the generation that grew up with Reefer Madness is still alive nothing will change.
The dems could do much more though. Fuck both parties. They are both in terrible need of forward thinking anti-establishment types.
[Edited on August 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM. Reason : .] 8/17/2013 11:51:14 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ Agreed on paragraph 1&3. On paragraph 2...The private prison lobby has a lot to do with it. They have funneled millions of dollars into harsher sentencing and stricter laws on drug and immigration charges. The GOP isn't one to turn down the all mighty dollar these days. Capitalism's finest.
I believe these are the two largest private detention corporations in America. These companies have grown dramatically in the last decade and are each bringing in $1,000,000,000+ (that's a billion) in revenues yearly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America#Lobbying_efforts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group#Public_relations
They're not going to let their revenue drop without a fight.
[Edited on August 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM. Reason : l] 8/19/2013 11:19:00 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Uraguay is the first country in the world to legalize, regulate, and provide marijuana to its citizens in an attempt to take power away from the cartels. I read they sell it for like $2.50 a gram.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/08/02/208096595/is-uruguays-marijuana-legalization-vote-a-tipping-point/ 8/19/2013 1:02:08 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
8/19/2013 3:01:33 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
How to regulate pot when it's legal http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/opinion/nathan-pot-regulation/index.html?hpt=hp_t4 8/27/2013 11:32:36 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/politics/holder-marijuana-laws/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Quote : | "Washington (CNN) -- The federal government won't try to block state laws in Colorado and Washington that legalized marijuana for recreational use, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Thursday.
While federal law still makes the possession, production and sale of marijuana a crime, Holder's announcement means the Justice Department won't file lawsuits against state laws in Colorado and Washington that allow people to possess marijuana for personal use. Growing and selling marijuana remain illegal in those states.
In addition, 18 states have either decriminalized or allowed medical marijuana in some fashion. While the state laws have allowed medical marijuana dispensaries to open, they remain illegal under federal law." |
8/29/2013 1:50:06 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ No way that's real 8/29/2013 2:32:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^ they will still raid them. they made the same statements about california and have no problem raiding legal facilities there. 8/29/2013 3:33:46 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM. Reason : http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm]
10/3/2013 9:51:54 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
what's with the cannabis and tobacco harm to others ratings? 10/3/2013 9:57:11 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
maybe second hand smoke for tobacco I guess? for weed its probably having to deal with the criminal element caused by prohibition and how unbelievably annoying stoners are. 10/3/2013 10:16:03 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, i'm an idiot.
[Edited on October 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM. Reason : tobacco] 10/3/2013 11:40:46 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
I read recently that venture capitalists had raised a million dollars in a short amount of time for CO grow operations. That's even with restrictive rules on investing (had to be a CO resident for 3 years before you're allowed to invest, etc). You gotta think that once big money like that starts to get thrown around, it's only a matter of time before more states start jumping on board 10/3/2013 12:09:51 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tobacco companies, beer companies, and companies that run private prisons are the big people opposed to it" |
Sometimes you really come across as one of the dumbest posters on this site.10/3/2013 12:18:26 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^ uhh how is that dumb, at all? it's common knowledge that they lobby against legalization.
http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/ 10/3/2013 12:54:06 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't think anyone didn't realize that or i would have included a source link 10/3/2013 1:11:20 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i thought that was common knowledge. 10/3/2013 4:06:05 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Marijuana is safer than alcohol (duh)
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/22/opinion/riffle-marijuana-safety/index.html?iref=allsearch 10/22/2013 5:04:21 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
also, this:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/most-americans-cool-smoking-weed-gay-weddings/70810/ 10/22/2013 5:20:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://business.time.com/2014/01/04/colorados-pot-shops-say-theyll-be-sold-out-any-day-now/?hpt=hp_t3 1/8/2014 12:35:32 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-7-2014/burn-notice---bill-o-reilly--marijuana---texting
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-7-2014/david-brooks-on-weed
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-7-2014/toker---hooch
[Edited on January 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM. Reason : maryjane] 1/8/2014 1:08:29 PM |