https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5FaMbnINwc
A full account of one of the gravest mistakes in US history based on lies.

3/12/2013 11:13:04 PM

what a buzzkill, I'm not gonna watch that ish.

3/13/2013 1:18:43 PM

I watched it. Everyone involved into the decisionmaking process fucked up on that one and we followed our leaders right off the cliff.

I can't believe half the country thinks that Obama is the anti-crhist, and they had not problem with the previous administration.

3/13/2013 1:51:18 PM

Still not over it, eh?

3/13/2013 3:18:26 PM

Why should I be? Thousands of troops, hundres of thousands of civillians, and trillions of dollars were lost due to some very poor decision making. If this was a business, top level managment would have been fired and possibly even prosecuted for that type of misconduct. We should never "get over" our history, we should learn from it.

3/13/2013 3:23:48 PM

haha, get over it man, it's only going to have implications for hundreds of years dude.

3/13/2013 3:31:03 PM

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"Why should I be? Thousands of troops, hundres of thousands of civillians, and trillions of dollars were lost due to some very poor decision making. If this was a business, top level managment would have been fired and possibly even prosecuted for that type of misconduct. We should never "get over" our history, we should learn from it."

Just like hundreds of people and government officials should have been fired and/or prosecuted for the latest recession. Not happenin' bruh.

The "not over it" was not in response to the war; but to the OP's response to this video of how we got into the war. We all know what this video shows. The mad dike's little show is old news.

3/13/2013 3:43:48 PM

Please to provide an alternative to the explanation given in the video and substantiate it by factual evidence.

[Edited on March 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM. Reason : Ad hominem attacks are not helping your credibility.]

3/13/2013 3:49:17 PM

^^by what logic does that have anything to do with, or in anyway excuse, all of this shit?

3/13/2013 6:05:10 PM

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"If this was a business, top level managment would have been fired and possibly even prosecuted for that type of misconduct. We should never "get over" our history, we should learn from it."

It IS a business. War is a racket, yo. Iraq wasn't a disaster. It was a wild success. It's always a success. That's why we keep doing it.

Oh sure, nations are destroyed and lives are ruined. But those casualties only affect poor people, not those at the top.

3/13/2013 7:04:40 PM

Well that's true too, but I hope at one point we can change our business strategy and maybe make our militarily-industrial complex more industrial than military.

3/13/2013 7:32:52 PM

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"Please to provide an alternative to the explanation given in the video and substantiate it by factual evidence. "

I'm sorry, I didn't see where I mentioned that I disagreed with the video.

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"Ad hominem attacks are not helping your credibility"

That's ok, I got like millions of e-cred points to spare.

[Edited on March 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2013 9:18:36 PM

Perfectly relevant reads that every American should read:

http://inplaceoffear.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/are-iraqis-better-off-as-result-of-2003.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/16/corruption-iraq-son-tortured-pay

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/09/saddam-hussein-statue-kadom-al-jabourir-sledgehammer

3/16/2013 9:43:56 AM

Iraq 10 Years Later: The Deadly Consequences of Spin

One night, more than a decade ago, I was a guest on Bill O'Reilly's Fox News show along with Bill Kristol, the godfather (or son-of-the-godfather) of the neoconservative movement. The subject: What to do about Iraq? The Bush administration had begun pounding the drums for war, claiming, as Vice President Dick Cheney had put it, that there was "no doubt" tyrant Saddam Hussein was "amassing" weapons of mass destruction "to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." As one of the few political analysts on television to question the rush to war, I noted that WMD inspections in Iraq could be useful in preventing Saddam from reaching the "finish line" in developing nuclear weapons. Kristol responded by exclaiming, "He's past that finish line! He's past the finish line!"

Saddam wasn't—as it turned out, he wasn't even in the race. He possessed no WMD nor any significant program to develop them. And his repressive regime had no meaningful connections with Al Qaeda. Yet in those dreadful months before the March 19, 2003, invasion of Iraq, the cheerleaders for war inhabited a place of privilege within the media. They could say anything—and get away with it. Kristol could declare—as he did the day before our exchange—that a war in Iraq "could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East," face little challenge, and gain plenty of debate-shaping attention.

More here: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/iraq-war-spin-bush-david-corn

3/18/2013 11:16:26 AM

I Tried to Make the Intelligence Behind the Iraq War Less Bogus
BY NADA BAKOS03.18.13
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/03/iraq-intelligence/

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" Ten years ago this week, the U.S. invaded Iraq, citing intelligence that turned out to be bogus. I had to work on some of it — and I also had to work on keeping the really, really terrible versions of it out of our analysis. [...] What we don’t do routinely is tie one catastrophe to another. But that was exactly what I was asked to do in November 2002, shortly after Congress voted to authorize war with Iraq. That war was predicated on Saddam Hussein’s (ultimately nonexistent) stockpiles of deadly weapons, but lurking in the background was the assertion that he’d pass them on to al-Qaida. At the CIA’s Iraq Branch in the Counterterrorism Center, we didn’t think Saddam had any substantial ties to al-Qaida. But soon we found ourselves fielding questions from determined Bush administration officials about whether Saddam was tied to 9/11."

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM. Reason : wrong paste]

3/18/2013 11:50:13 AM