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rwoody
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Soft way to bring back slavery?

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""The Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional;"


http://www.wral.com/proposal-would-allow-state-religion-in-north-carolina/12296876/

4/3/2013 7:56:39 AM

BigHitSunday
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because slavery is obviously what the goal is; its clearly expressed in the article

[Edited on April 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM. Reason : and they dont ever tell us how many democrats are in favor]

4/3/2013 9:05:48 AM

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Now all you NC republicans can sit back watch what your representatives are fighting for. Of all the things they could be fighting against (TAXES FOR EXAMPLE) these religious bible thumpers are trying to declare a state religion?

We are wasting tax money so republicans can pray to "god".....

4/3/2013 9:26:12 AM

rwoody
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My point was that this legislation would essentially nullify every supreme Court decision ever for NC.

Perhaps civil rights is the better example.

4/3/2013 10:48:04 AM

Mr. Joshua
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Shut up, BlackJesus. You're only 3/5 of a poster now.

4/3/2013 10:56:22 AM

DeltaBeta
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lol

4/3/2013 11:02:02 AM

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Are they going to stop at a religion or are they going to go denomination?

I will move to South Carolina if I have to be a Free Will Baptist!

4/3/2013 11:03:01 AM

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my issue is they ran on the platform of abiding by the constitution

now folks want to just say fuck it, we don't really need to go by that document?

4/3/2013 11:05:13 AM

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ATTN: Jesus freaks
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"Matthew 18:20
King James Version (KJV)
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."


Do this. Leave me alone.


I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

4/3/2013 11:05:30 AM

Mr. Joshua
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I'm pretty sure that baptists are the ones who killed Jesus.

4/3/2013 11:05:41 AM

jaZon
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"Hey, that document that we constantly act as if divinely inspired is meaningless."

4/3/2013 11:05:58 AM

Bullet
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This is the way our forefathers would have wanted it.

4/3/2013 11:07:53 AM

DeltaBeta
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I don't know why everybody's ragging on Jesus. Nobody says anything when it's 'mater picking time.

4/3/2013 11:14:26 AM

Mr. Joshua
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I think it would be neat if Jews wore stars.

4/3/2013 11:19:57 AM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/north-carolina-religion-bill_n_3003401.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

4/3/2013 11:24:16 AM

wdprice3
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the hypocrisy is too damn much to handle. what in the fuck.

4/3/2013 11:26:32 AM

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An interestingly valid take actually.. rather than having the central governing body decide what it's parts (the states) can and cannot do, the states themselves in compliance with federal law enforce the Constitution as it is interpreted by the State.

On the surface I like it. It would grant states more freedoms to choose for themselves what does and doesn't abide by the Constitution that binds the Whole together. Could lead to amazing diversity from coast to coast and a dramatic decrease in the size of federal government powers.

Downsides seem pretty strong as well. Inter-state jurisdictional conflict being the base of most.
Then what if the States get TOO free and start doing things that are unpopular with the other states? What course of action could be taken outside embargo?

Actually, I really REALLY like this idea now that I think about it. The ACC could have roughly a third of the nation's military under it's belt

[Edited on April 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM. Reason : ads]

4/3/2013 11:31:43 AM

Mr. Joshua
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North Carolina is the new South Carolina.

4/3/2013 11:32:42 AM

Fermat
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i fucking wish

they don't have any fucking laws down there dude it's the tits! whats your problem with it?

4/3/2013 11:36:38 AM

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Leave me alone

please

I didn't vote for you.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

4/3/2013 11:37:18 AM

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"An interestingly valid take actually.. rather than having the central governing body decide what it's parts (the states) can and cannot do, the states themselves in compliance with federal law enforce the Constitution as it is interpreted by the State.
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Except here the state isn't trying to interpret the Constitution. It's trying to say it's exempt from part of it.

4/3/2013 11:43:09 AM

Mr. Joshua
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I declare myself exempt from DUI laws.

4/3/2013 11:45:14 AM

Fermat
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no. It is saying it is outside the boundaries of the fed to enforce their differing interpretation of it.

4/3/2013 11:58:59 AM

y0willy0
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i like all the payday loan cash checking places in SC

4/3/2013 12:10:59 PM

mildew
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For the NC House of Representatives/Senate, how often do these guys meet and devote time to the job? They only get paid ~14k per year, so I assume it is not full-time.

4/3/2013 12:13:10 PM

Fermat
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hell the gays should be stoked about SC because most of the state is crazy about the cocks

no yearly inspections if it runs it rolls. you can buy a revolver at the sip 'n save.

walked into an ACE hardware store and there was a Barrett .50 with a new comp and dialed in Swarovski scope for six grand just sitting on the counter. but you could just buy one or the other if you wanted.

plus the people are nice. thats still a thing that is considered for making a state good right?

probly not

[Edited on April 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM. Reason : feet]

4/3/2013 12:17:45 PM

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Mustard barbecue excludes SC from the realm of rational thought.

4/3/2013 12:48:27 PM

raiden
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Just think of all the money that will be wasted on this. First the money wasted already on these assholes thinking this up. Next the money to defend it in court when it gets challenged (and it should be challenged, this is blatantly unconstitutional), then money on appeals and such (b/c you know that's gonna happen), then more money when it gets struck down and they try to find a different way to make it happen.

Its a good thing the NC state congress doesn't have anything else to worry about....

4/3/2013 12:57:54 PM

Fermat
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no i'm pretty sure a state putting forth any effort to lessen it's dependence on the federal government and further States' rights is about as efficient a use of tax dollars imaginable...

4/3/2013 1:11:16 PM

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^yeah, that's what this specific bill is about

4/3/2013 1:16:30 PM

AstralEngine
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North Carolina: "You can't enforce your interpretation of the constitution, the constitution doesn't give you that right."

US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: "Ok. You pass your law and you can say goodbye to every federal cent your state gets each year."


North Carolina: "Ok.... Nevermind."

[Edited on April 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2013 1:25:46 PM

BigHitSunday
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the state should be worrying about gayfags instead

4/3/2013 1:29:59 PM

Bullet
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(and negroes, of course, before we have a black governor!)

4/3/2013 1:35:14 PM

vinylbandit
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^^^ Eh, they turned down several billion dollars of strings-free federal aid a month ago.

4/3/2013 1:39:04 PM

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Quick summary of legislative efforts so far in 2013:

-Nullification of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in order to establish a state religion)
-Nullifying of lease for Dorothea Dix Park
-Voter photo ID requirement
-Reduction of unemployment benefits
-Prison time for women exposing their breasts
-Effective removal of the right of college students to vote where they go to school
-Taking of Charlotte Douglas International from city to state control
-Taking of Asheville's water system (without compensation)
-Prohibition of the ability of cities to establish development standards (nullifying Raleigh's new Unified Development Ordinance)
-Nullification of co-ed roommates policy established at UNC, designed to help GLTB students who are harassed or bullied in traditional housing
-Nullification of the state's requirement that utilities produce a small portion of their power from renewable sources
-Removal of tenure for teachers
-Rejection of federal dollars to expand Medicaid
-Elimination of earned income tax credit
-Elimination of straight-party ticket voting
-Authorization to prosecutors (removing judicial discretion) to try 13 year olds in criminal court
-Removal of requirement that district court judges need have passed the bar exam

4/3/2013 1:53:28 PM

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"Elimination of straight-party ticket voting"


I think this is great. People should at least have to know the name of who they give their vote too.

4/3/2013 1:58:09 PM

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"-Reduction of unemployment benefits
-Prohibition of the ability of cities to establish development standards (nullifying Raleigh's new Unified Development Ordinance)
-Nullification of co-ed roommates policy established at UNC, designed to help GLTB students who are harassed or bullied in traditional housing
-Removal of tenure for teachers
-Rejection of federal dollars to expand Medicaid
-Elimination of straight-party ticket voting "


good.

4/3/2013 2:02:37 PM

Vulcan91
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I've got a pretty good idea of the issues with the other items, but why these two:

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"-Prohibition of the ability of cities to establish development standards (nullifying Raleigh's new Unified Development Ordinance)
-Nullification of co-ed roommates policy established at UNC, designed to help GLTB students who are harassed or bullied in traditional housing"

4/3/2013 2:05:12 PM

justinh524
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well what little i know about the UDO (i don't live in raleigh/NC anymore), isn't very encouraging. getting rid of most public hearings doesn't seem like a good thing to me.

and as far as co-ed roommates, that's a system that's just asking for trouble. no one is forcing these people to live in on-campus housing.

4/3/2013 2:18:17 PM

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