Can we get a list of all the stupid shit they've tried to pull so far?

4/4/2013 12:06:52 PM

Crony Pope/Duke Energy employees appointed to run everything
About 10 to 20 different efforts to manipulate the vote
Bills banning boobs, making divorce harder, and to allow a state established religion
Seizing municipal assets while claiming to be small government champions
Putting climate change deniers and pro-fracking advocates in charge of regulating the environment
Amendment 1

There's more. But that's a start.

4/4/2013 12:35:38 PM

Vulcan91 put this together:

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"Summary of bills being worked on by the NC legislature in 2013: -Nullification of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in order to establish a state religion) -Nullifying of lease for Dorothea Dix Park -Voter photo ID requirement -Reduction of unemployment benefits -Prison time for women exposing their breasts -Effective removal of the right of college students to vote where they go to school -Taking of Charlotte Douglas International from city to state control -Taking of Asheville's water system (without compensation) -Prohibition of the ability of cities to establish development standards (nullifying Raleigh's new Unified Development Ordinance) -Nullification of co-ed roommates policy established at UNC, designed to help GLTB students who are harassed or bullied in traditional housing -Nullification of the state's requirement that utilities produce a small portion of their power from renewable sources -Removal of tenure for teachers -Rejection of federal dollars to expand Medicaid -Elimination of earned income tax credit -Elimination of straight-party ticket voting "

4/4/2013 1:54:57 PM

Part of me was excited about have Republicans in office because it meant that some sensible gun rights legislation could be passed.... but holy fuck I didn't want all this other shit to come along with it. These guys truly are a cancer to this state with all of the partisan bills being proposed and passed. It's sad that our state of politics has come to this. These guys aren't solving problems. They aren't passing/proposing legislation to better the state. They're ramming as much uber-conservative shit down our throats as quickly as possible since they haven't had this control in decades in hopes that the morons of the state will see what "good" legislation they've passed and help keep them in control. I am truly worried about the future of this state now.

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"Nullification of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in order to establish a state religion)"

This is now, thankfully, dead.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 1:57:03 PM

Don't forget fracking and offshore drilling.

4/4/2013 1:57:50 PM

^^so you're one of those "single-issue" voters?

4/4/2013 2:01:47 PM

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"but holy fuck I didn't want all this other shit to come along with it."

You seriously couldn't see this coming a mile away with all the teabaggers / Art Pope backing?

Really?

Really?

/ex-republican

4/4/2013 2:04:07 PM

So do you guys just sit around reading the BlueNC twitter feed all day long? Or do you just get email blasts from someone at the NCGA who sends out an alert every time any elected Republican files a bill/resolution with the Clerk?

4/4/2013 2:11:17 PM

All this stupid shit has been all over the news and papers. Kind of hard to stick your head in the sand and NOT see it, IMO.

4/4/2013 2:15:25 PM

This is true. WRAL does seem to be very keen on reporting on the NCGA lately.

4/4/2013 2:26:15 PM

just to clarify: are you simply playing devils advocate, GoldieO, or are you in support of what the NCGA has been proposing recently?

because you sure are quick to defend them

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM. Reason : they are quickly making our state a national laughingstock ]

4/4/2013 2:40:51 PM

How have I defended anything? I've just tried to point out the fact that bills don't become law simply become a draft version is entered by the Clerk.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM. Reason : Wooo! First egg from TSB w/that post.]

4/4/2013 2:43:12 PM

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"Part of me was excited about have Republicans in office because it meant that some sensible gun rights legislation could be passed.... but holy fuck I didn't want all this other shit to come along with it. These guys truly are a cancer to this state with all of the partisan bills being proposed and passed. It's sad that our state of politics has come to this. These guys aren't solving problems. They aren't passing/proposing legislation to better the state. They're ramming as much uber-conservative shit down our throats as quickly as possible since they haven't had this control in decades in hopes that the morons of the state will see what "good" legislation they've passed and help keep them in control. I am truly worried about the future of this state now. "

4/4/2013 2:58:55 PM

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"so you're one of those "single-issue" voters?"

I seriously don't know why you consistently jump to absurd conclusions. You are always reading more into something than is clearly there. Did I say I voted all Republican for one issue? Or did I say that I was glad that having Republicans in power could help one issue which is important to me.

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"You seriously couldn't see this coming a mile away with all the teabaggers / Art Pope backing?"

Maybe I'm naive... I expected some bullshit (fracking, Voter ID, Racial Bias law, etc.) but not this much and not such far reaching legislation.

4/4/2013 3:06:59 PM

Proposed $100 fee for electric vehicles.

4/4/2013 3:50:23 PM

The mandating cursive bill is an odd one. I don't see any obvious direct connections with big money interests or ideology, other than the right's general preference for old timeyness. It's certainly not in the category of some of the horrendous bills that are being proposed, but it's odd for supposedly small government advocates to be trying to micromanage teachers when they won office on a jobs, jobs jobs, agenda.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 4:02:43 PM

^^^ Clearly you haven't been paying attention then. All these things are happening in other states (and they would be happening nationally if the Republicans weren't clinging onto an illegitimate majority in the House of Representatives) because ALEC is running the fucking show for the Republicans. It's basically a neoconservative/big business organization that uses their puppet Republicans to pass legislation that ALEC literally writes for them. None of these bumfuck state senators and reps know what the fuck is going on. They're just there for the free ride and to push the right button when the time comes.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ]

4/4/2013 4:07:36 PM

^^ was discussed at a national conference the sponsor attended

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM. Reason : at least one of the sponsors, not sure about the other]

4/4/2013 4:18:57 PM

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"How have I defended anything? I've just tried to point out the fact that bills don't become law simply become a draft version is entered by the Clerk."

Yeah guys, why are you all up in arms about the bills? The time to bring these things to light is once they've already become law. Durrrr.

4/4/2013 4:26:51 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamison-doran/an-open-letter-to-the_b_3014361.html

this is really, really great

4/4/2013 8:57:35 PM

this is why we make fun of republicans who think anything about the republican party is about small government and personal liberties.

4/4/2013 9:57:10 PM

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""Summary of bills being worked on by the NC legislature in 2013: -Nullification of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in order to establish a state religion) -Nullifying of lease for Dorothea Dix Park -Voter photo ID requirement -Reduction of unemployment benefits -Prison time for women exposing their breasts -Effective removal of the right of college students to vote where they go to school -Taking of Charlotte Douglas International from city to state control -Taking of Asheville's water system (without compensation) -Prohibition of the ability of cities to establish development standards (nullifying Raleigh's new Unified Development Ordinance) -Nullification of co-ed roommates policy established at UNC, designed to help GLTB students who are harassed or bullied in traditional housing -Nullification of the state's requirement that utilities produce a small portion of their power from renewable sources -Removal of tenure for teachers -Rejection of federal dollars to expand Medicaid -Elimination of earned income tax credit -Elimination of straight-party ticket voting "

Add the latest one:
-Require criminal background checks on all individuals seeking food stamps or housing assistance.

4/5/2013 3:11:38 AM

where's the voter ID thread? I haven't kept up with the bill much, but I heard that there have been several changes to it to better allow those without IDs/poor to get identification.

4/5/2013 9:09:06 AM

they also changed it so the voter ID's will not have pictures
(which makes it pretty obvious why they want it)


heard that they are going to prevent the transit authority for charging for tolls unless the bill is over $5

4/5/2013 9:46:26 AM

I read the voter ID bill. Its surprisingly watered down, but still allows for fucking over those non-educated voters who dont pay attention to poilitics and simply show up and vote.

-As far as college students, pubic university IDs will be valid, but private university IDs will not be.
-Acceptable IDs will have a 10 year expired grace period. You read that right. They will accept it up to 10 years after expiration. If you are over age 70 expired IDs become permanently valid.
-Disabled/handicap people are exempt from the ID requirement upon signing an affidavit.

4/7/2013 9:39:15 PM

http://www.wral.com/fee-for-voter-id-might-be-unconstitutional/12310806/

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"Fee for voter ID might be unconstitutional RALEIGH, N.C. — Some legal experts say charging people for photo identification cards in order to vote in North Carolina might violate the state constitution."

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"Charging someone money to vote is a poll tax, which is outlawed by the 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Other states with voter ID laws offer free IDs to anyone, regardless of their ability to pay. Under the North Carolina legislation, people would have to pay for the ID unless they're willing to swear under penalty of perjury – a felony offense – that they're too poor to pay for it. "If they say they have financial hardship, the same penalties of perjury apply if they misrepresent that," Rep. Tom Murry, R-Wake, said Thursday."

Who is going to risk a felony to vote, especially for such an ill-defined and intimidating standard?

4/7/2013 10:02:18 PM

.0002% of people will

4/8/2013 12:12:35 AM

Why would anyone vote republican? I can't wait until all of the old mothrfuckers in this state die.

4/9/2013 7:23:22 PM

Dome: NC lawmaker equates Islamic prayer with terrorism

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/09/2813754/dome-nc-lawmaker-equates-islamic.html#storylink=cpy

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"An N.C. House lawmaker is equating any prayer to the Islamic God with terrorism. In an email exchange with a constituent, Republican state Rep. Michele Presnell of Burnsville was asked whether she was comfortable with a prayer to Allah before a legislative meeting. Presnell responded: “No, I do not condone terrorism.” The first-year lawmaker who represents a district in the North Carolina mountains is a co-sponsor of House resolution 494, a measure asserting that North Carolina can establish a state religion. She did not return a call for comment Monday about the string of emails obtained by Dome. “The famed ACLU is telling Rowan County they may not pray before commissioners meetings,” Presnell wrote to Britt Kaufmann, a constituent. “We pray in Raleigh before our legislative meetings, U.S. Congress prays in Washington DC, why can they not pray?” Kaufmann replied: “Yes, I do understand that the ACLU is suing Rowan County and I think they have clearly articulated why they are not comfortable with prayer before the commissioners meetings. I wanted you, as my representative, to know that I do not think the proposed bill is a good solution to that problem. … Would you be comfortable with a public prayer to Allah before a legislative meeting in Raleigh?” Presnell equated Islam to terrorism and added, “We just need to start taking a stand on our religious freedom or it will be whisked away from us.” The email exchange ends with Presnell telling her constituent: “No, you are wrong. Have a good day.” Her stance appears to differ from that of the primary sponsor of the bill, Rep. Harry Warren, a Salisbury Republican, who later apologized for the resolution’s poor wording and how it embarrassed the state. ‘Anti-Bloomberg’ bill here, too Not to be outdone by Mississippi, three North Carolina lawmakers on Tuesday filed a bill that would prohibit cities and counties from limiting how big a soft drink can be. Recently, Mississippi passed such a law, “The Anti-Bloomberg Bill,” which took a swipe at New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s effort to limit giant sugary drinks for health reasons. House Bill 683, filed Tuesday in North Carolina, would also protect food manufacturers from being sued over weight gain, obesity or other conditions stemming from long-term consumption. Packers, distributors, carriers, sellers, marketers and advertisers also would be protected. Sponsors are Rep. Brian Brown, a Republican from Greenville; Rep. Tim Moffitt, a Republican from Asheville; and Rep. Nathan Ramsey, a Republican from Fairview. 13-year-olds tried as adults Children 13 and older would have to be tried in adult court for the most serious crimes under a bill pending in the state House. Currently, only teenagers accused of first-degree murder automatically must have their cases heard in Superior Court, where proceedings are confidential and the punishment is generally less severe. Judges already can transfer the most serious felonies to adult court if they find there is probable cause that the juvenile committed the crime. This bill would require them to transfer the cases. The bill by Speaker Pro Tem Paul “Skip” Stam, a Republican from Apex, and Rep. John Faircloth, a second-term Republican from High Point, would expand the offenses eligible for adult court to include felonies designed as Class B1 to Class D. That covers such crimes as first-degree rape, on the high end, down to voluntary manslaughter, first-degree burglary and armed robbery. A legislative staff report shows that the cases of 19 juveniles who were at least 13 and charged with the most serious felonies were transferred to adult court last year. There has been an ongoing effort to go in the other direction: to keep more juveniles out of adult court to lessen the likelihood that they’ll be repeat offenders. North Carolina is one of only two states that prosecute 16- and 17-year-olds as adults. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/09/2813754/dome-nc-lawmaker-equates-islamic.html#storylink=cpy"

minus credibility
minus credibility
minus credibility

4/9/2013 9:02:20 PM

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"Why would anyone vote republican? I can't wait until all of the old mothrfuckers in this state die."

And all the knuckle dragging hillbillies that live in rural areas.

[Edited on April 9, 2013 at 10:19 PM. Reason : ]

4/9/2013 10:19:31 PM

So are they just trying to ram a bunch of garbage through expecting to lose next round, or do they think this will help their image?

4/10/2013 11:58:58 AM

^^^LOL. I can't believe that idiot pulled out the religious freedom line. wow.

4/10/2013 12:16:24 PM

^You are free to be whatever kind of Christian you want to be.

4/10/2013 1:53:18 PM

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"So are they just trying to ram a bunch of garbage through expecting to lose next round, or do they think this will help their image?"

They don't appear to be too concerned over their image right now, since the midterms are still far off and the voting populace has short memory. They aren't stupid however. Thom Tillis killing the state religion bill is a sign that they are aware that their legislation is drawing national attention. He has his hands full with the lower IQ reps from bumfuckville enacting idiotically juicy transparent legislation. If their current strategy is any indication, they are probably putting all of their eggs in the voter suppression, and super PAC baskets and media-wise will be running on a pro-business platform. It's easy to predict after you look at the actions of other ALEC/GOP states and they appear to be doing this color by numbers, lock-step. That's my guess.

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

4/10/2013 2:05:42 PM

They don't care because they know they've rigged the game so that they can't lose unless an unprecedented number of North Carolinians suddenly wake up to their shit. 2014 is going to be an uglier campaign than 2012.

4/10/2013 2:10:42 PM

they aren't going anywhere soon, they will gerrymander their districts all to hell for job security

(the same way the democrats did)

4/10/2013 2:10:54 PM

They have no more credibility points to take away.

4/10/2013 2:15:26 PM

Bill introduced to name Opossum as state marsupial. . . . .

+1 Credibility

[Edited on April 11, 2013 at 10:20 AM. Reason : how have we not done this before now, geez]

4/11/2013 10:19:55 AM

The correct spelling in NC is 'possum

4/11/2013 10:52:04 AM

some people will probably go on a crusade to try to prevent possums from becoming road-kill

4/11/2013 12:58:29 PM

Why do we need a named state marsupial?

4/11/2013 1:01:48 PM

more important than our "State's favorite son" IMO

4/11/2013 1:03:40 PM

"House seeks to redefine 'at-risk' preschoolers"
http://www.wral.com/house-seeks-to-redefine-at-risk-preschoolers/12332667/

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"Early education advocates say that could cut the number of children eligible for the program by at least a third."

Redefining problems out of existence. Sort of like what they did with rising sea levels.

4/11/2013 8:50:40 PM

^ I'm reposting the following query from Chit Chat in this more appropriate setting:

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"^^ Just curious, disclosure purposes and whatnot, is it part of your job description/do you get paid to write these posts about Republicans on TWW or do you just do it for fun?"

4/11/2013 9:11:36 PM

Actually that's not appropriate here or anywhere. His affiliation is irrelevant.

4/11/2013 10:23:49 PM

How is my question irrelevant? As evinced by yet another thread dedicated to another proposed bill - http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=636252 - I'm simply curious as to his own personal biases. But please correct me if I've violated some type of TSB rule by requesting such information, given my inexperienced status as an actual commenter I could have easily missed the memo.

I suppose my point is how are these bills selected to be thread-worthy here at TSB given the large number of actual bills introduced? Is this the herculean effort of one individual to read and report on every single bill introduced by every member of the NCGA? Or is there some additional incentive to do so?

[Edited on April 12, 2013 at 5:09 AM. Reason : .....]

4/12/2013 5:01:35 AM

^ He's showing you how proud you should be of the dipshits you voted for. Is it working?

4/12/2013 8:24:32 AM

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"report on every single bill introduced by every member of the NCGA? "

There have been nearly a thousand bills filed in the state house. Aint nobody got time for that.

4/12/2013 9:09:59 AM

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"Bill introduced to name Opossum as state marsupial. . . . . +1 Credibility"

You mean, the virginia opposum? Didelphis virginiana?

-1 credibility

4/12/2013 7:45:42 PM

^ but we don't have any other marsupials

also:

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"Sen. Tommy Tucker of Waxhaw said a mouthful with just 13 words on Tuesday. “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” It was no coincidence that Tucker’s silencing of an N.C. newspaper publisher – heard by at least three people who were there – came just after he railroaded a bill through his committee that would let government operate in more secrecy. "

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/16/3986274/move-is-afoot-to-make-government.html


Not really commenting on the bill he introduced, just his attitude. Maybe I'm just paying closer attention this year but the arrogance seems to be more prevalent lately.

[Edited on April 17, 2013 at 8:46 AM. Reason : Virginia has been stealing our thunder since Jamestown was settled]

4/17/2013 8:44:26 AM