4 yr. old accidentally shoots sheriff's wife, she dies: http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2013/04/09/boy-4-accidentally-shot-the-sheriffs-wife/

Another 4yr old shoots a 6 yr. old, he dies: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/nyregion/boy-6-dies-after-being-shot-by-boy-4-in-toms-river-nj.html?_r=0

25 yr. old shoots ~30, 12 die: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477132/30-hospitalized-in-colo-mass-shooting/

20 yr old stabs 14 people, no one dead (yet) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/us/student-arrested-in-stabbing-at-texas-college.html

36 yr. old stabs 22 children and an old woman, no one died: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248054/China-stabbing-22-children-elderly-woman-stabbed-outside-primary-school-Chinese-knifeman.html

Knives don't kill people, people with knives guns do.

4/10/2013 12:25:02 AM

You selected articles that supported your agenda.



neither knives or guns kill people. People kill other people. Get it right, moron

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 12:28 AM. Reason : .]

4/10/2013 12:27:35 AM

This just in, moron supports stabbing people.

4/10/2013 12:29:06 AM

You dismiss a reality you find uncomfortable.

4/10/2013 12:29:08 AM

^^ as long as it doesn't kill anyone.

4/10/2013 12:29:49 AM

as we have demonstrated here your honor, it is literally impossible to kill someone without a gun. If the bullet don't hit, you must acquit!

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 12:36 AM. Reason : ]

4/10/2013 12:35:34 AM

What I find uncomfortable is you'd rather people accept a "victim" mentality because it's okay as long as they don't die.

First of all, do you know how expensive it is to get stabbed? Each stab wound average roughly $15k. Walk into a hospital with 5 stab wounds and you could be looking at a $75k medical bill. So yeah. You are alive. You are traumatized by the attack, and now stuck with a fucking huge ass medical bill afterwards.

4/10/2013 12:37:43 AM

Quote :

"a "victim" mentality"

I don't think this term means what you think it means.

^ and lol @ it's better to be dead than stabbed

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 12:39 AM. Reason : ]

4/10/2013 12:38:48 AM

Quote :

"I don't think this term means what you think it means. "

That's your problem. You are thinking. Stop this activity and our communication problems are solved.

Quote :

"and lol @ it's better to be dead than stabbed "

I didn't say that, but you just did.
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[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 12:40 AM. Reason : .]

4/10/2013 12:40:24 AM

That... makes no sense.

Not surprising.

4/10/2013 12:40:58 AM

Of course not, moron

4/10/2013 12:41:52 AM

Gun massacres are the price we pay for freedom.

Another uncomfortable truth we as a society have thus far rejected.

4/10/2013 12:43:25 AM

Gun massacres are not statistically significant.

4/10/2013 12:45:31 AM

If anyone ever pulled a knife on moron he'd understand why people want guns.
I doubt he'd be like "it's ok...it's just a knife, lol."

If you're so worried about people with guns just go buy a bunch. I'm pretty sure it really is that simple.

4/10/2013 12:46:46 AM

Quote :

"... massacres are not ... significant"

-AndyMac

4/10/2013 12:47:55 AM

^^ where did i say i was worried about people with guns?

You are the one that seems worried.

4/10/2013 12:48:49 AM

You selected keywords that support your agenda.



neither knives or guns kill people. People kill other people. Get it right, moron

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 12:56 AM. Reason : .]

4/10/2013 12:56:09 AM

Children with guns who aren't even trying, standing next to a Sheriff, are more likely to kill people than grownups with knives trying really hard.

Senseless gun deaths are the price we pay for freedom. #unconfortableRealityHiroRejects

4/10/2013 1:00:19 AM

^ I HAVE A HASHTAG NOW. HOLY SHIT.

4/10/2013 1:01:47 AM

http://www.theage.com.au/world/knifewielding-man-beheads-bus-passenger-20080801-3o5i.html

4/10/2013 1:02:43 AM

Oh I forgot.
We only care when people get killed.
NOT WHEN 22 CHILDREN AND AN OLD WOMAN GET STABBED.

Too bad nobody shot that motherfucker.

(Why are you even linking "co.uk" news anyway? That's about as relevant as news about blood pudding's effects on obesity.)

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 1:06 AM. Reason : l]

4/10/2013 1:06:03 AM

(you people make this too easy, you seriously think guns are just as dangerous as knives?? LOL)

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 1:32 AM. Reason : ]

4/10/2013 1:14:18 AM

that graph isn't a very convincing argument to ban assault rifles

4/10/2013 1:18:30 AM

That's good, because no one is saying we should ban assault rifles here.

4/10/2013 1:25:52 AM

you must have forgot to put the word 'hand' in the thread title, since that graph indicates knives are about as deadly as all non-handguns

4/10/2013 1:26:55 AM

Ban the 1993.
Mad people getting shot with handguns back in the day.
Thank goodness Windows 3.11 came out in November of that year and put the crime levels back in check.

4/10/2013 1:27:55 AM

^ ha, you could be an NC Republican congressman.

4/10/2013 1:41:23 AM

Why so serious, everybody?

Let's be silly and hilarious!

4/10/2013 1:43:18 AM

The thread got silly with twista posted.

4/10/2013 1:44:45 AM

Quote :

"^ ha, you could be an NC Republican congressman."

I wish. The salary is only $14k per year, but you get mad per diem.
You could be king of Kensington Park on that kind of loot.

Oh wait...you said congress. That's the bigtime. I'll look into it.

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 1:49 AM. Reason : l]

4/10/2013 1:46:34 AM

4/10/2013 1:48:19 AM

apparently moron thinks its silly when an innocent bus rider gets decapitated by a knife wielding criminal

4/10/2013 1:55:22 AM

I just realized I could easily work my way up to queen of my apartment complex.

There's no way I can move now. Think of all the anti-violence work I could do that in position.

4/10/2013 2:09:03 AM

Quote :

"You are traumatized by the attack, and now stuck with a fucking huge ass medical bill afterwards."

Is this why so many Republican gun nuts are against socialized medicine?

4/10/2013 2:13:39 AM

I don't know, you should ask them

4/10/2013 2:15:27 AM

I know this whole thread is not intended to actually be soapboxy and actually logical, but it is pretty clear that knife wielding nuts are far less lethal than gun wielding nuts. Of course people can be killed using a knife, but the point is a gun makes it FAR easier, especially in mass attacks, accidents, the hands of young peoples, etc.

4/10/2013 2:27:57 AM

You're forgetting the great equalizer argument.
You're basically taking away the right of the weak(er) folks in our society to defend themselves.
The elderly, the wimmenz, the disabled, those who aren't part of a mob, etc.
But I guess it's ok as long as they just get beat/stabbed/robbed/raped and not killed, right?
I mean, I'm sure you and your family are motherfucking Rambo when it comes to hand to hand combat, but that isn't true for everyone.
Or do you think the police are going to protect you when things go bump in the night?

4/10/2013 3:01:23 AM

Look back at what I wrote. It said nothing about taking away all guns from people. It was about the OP and the comments. You seemed to take those statements as if I said, "No one should be allowed to own guns," and then railed about the consequences of that decision.

The OP's point seemed to me to be that the notion that it's people who kill people and not guns is refuted significantly by the many scenarios where those who have a murderous intent are not nearly as successful with a knife as they would be with a gun.

People seem to be so caught up in the notion that if they accept that fact, then the final step in the argument results in a loss of their guns, and so the tactic is to refute every single step in the argument, even when it has strong merit.

4/10/2013 4:03:24 AM

lolololol

4/10/2013 7:04:15 AM

Yeah, whatever. You can have my guns when you can pry it from my cold dead hands.

4/10/2013 7:05:47 AM

it's common sense to recognize that a gun in the hands of a crazy person has a higher injury potential than a knife in the hands of the same person in the same situation

recognizing this fact is not the same thing as calling for an all-out ban on firearms

4/10/2013 7:28:39 AM

ban crazy people

4/10/2013 8:28:25 AM

^ stricter rules on who is allowed to purchase guns is a start, certainly (which is why the majority of folks are in favor of more extensive background checks)

as noted, of course, the truly crazy and determined will still get guns if they want to get them, so you'll only really stop the lazy delinquents...if that prevents one person from being killed, i say it's worth it

4/10/2013 9:45:31 AM

Y'all bitches be postin' in a troll thread.

4/10/2013 10:06:29 AM

is there a statisitc or chart that captures on the Y axis highest level of education attained, and on the x axis number of convicted shooters? I would love to see that. Smart people dont use guns in crime, they get caught in other ways i guess

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM. Reason : ipad woes]

4/10/2013 10:14:55 AM

^^^I agree. most people don't have a problem with increasing the base of background checks and improving this system. Unfortunately, the proposed legislation goes well beyond that, to the point of infringing rights. Biden, Obama, and the rest of the anti-rights folks are being disingenuous when they say this bill is only about extending background checks to "purchases" and complaining that some senators are "behind" the rest of America and wrongly trying to block and defeat this bill.

[Edited on April 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM. Reason : .]

4/10/2013 10:15:14 AM

ha HA!

4/10/2013 10:45:43 AM

Quote :

"neither knives or guns kill people. People kill other people."

/thread


someone move this shit to soap box

4/10/2013 10:47:38 AM

^^
you call that a knife? that's not a knife

4/10/2013 10:49:59 AM

local police kill streaker

http://www.wral.com/man-dies-after-raleigh-police-use-stun-gun-on-him/12324803/

we need #StunGunControl

4/10/2013 12:19:39 PM