eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.politicususa.com/eric-cantor-admits-paul-ryan-driving-force-sequester.html Eric Cantor has confirmed that he and Paul Ryan talked John Boehner out of accepting a “Grand Bargain” with Obama in 2011. It was this rejection that led to the sequester... 5/4/2013 1:59:51 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
SHUT UP YA FUCKIN LEFT WING COMMIE FASCIST LOONY AMERICA HATER
jk jk jk 5/4/2013 2:14:34 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
i don't understand why people that bitch so much about the federal debt act like the sequester is some horrible awful thing. it's only about 1/100 of what is actually required to get the budget in line anyways. can you imagine the outrage if politicians actually tried to do anything remotely close to being relevant to our budget woes? 5/4/2013 3:12:05 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
^ it probably has to do with 1) the awful way it was implemented, and 2) the fact that it wasn't designed to be a budget cutting measure, but instead a political persuasion tool. 5/4/2013 3:21:18 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
The sequester is going away agency by agency, in the order of who has the most powerful lobbyists, or how much congressmen themselves are inconvenienced. See: FAA.
If it was only a political tool that was supposed to extract something out of Republicans, it is failing. 5/4/2013 3:49:26 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-the-fall/2013/05/02/6fa564c4-b348-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_print.html 5/4/2013 4:26:55 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't understand why people that bitch so much about the federal debt act like the sequester is some horrible awful thing. it's only about 1/100 of what is actually required to get the budget in line anyways. can you imagine the outrage if politicians actually tried to do anything remotely close to being relevant to our budget woes? " |
It was a blunt hit to discretionary funding and was about 7% of the discretionary budget. Considering the debt isn't inherently a problem, and we're still in a sluggish economy, it doesn't make fiscal sense to cut a lot of the spending that it cuts. Particularly things that promote research and development.5/4/2013 4:54:50 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " If it was only a political tool that was supposed to extract something out of Republicans, it is failing." |
I think that by buckling when things started to get as bad as he said it would, fail is exactly what the administration did. Obama absolutely let the GOP call his bluff, and not live with the worst of he consequences. Now, a precedent has been set that the sequester really only applies if you're poor and don't have voting power on your side.5/4/2013 5:57:56 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
This is literally a do-nothing congress and there isn't much any single person can do about it. 5/4/2013 6:05:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It's Obamas fault. He doesn't do a good job wrangling the congress. That is probably an area where is he was older, he might could have related better. 5/4/2013 6:53:25 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Or maybe if he wasnt a condescending dickhead everytime he opened his mouth the immature brats in congress wouldnt stick it to him "just because." 5/4/2013 6:58:48 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Obama has literally offered to compromise to positions more right than what the right originally asked for and had those offers denied
so you are dumb 5/4/2013 7:02:35 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
5/4/2013 7:37:21 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
oh i'm sorry, was that not at the same level of discourse as your condescending dickhead statement? was it above it or below it? 5/4/2013 7:40:39 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
I usually peg most terribly constructed thoughts below myself, but I do have very high self esteem. 5/4/2013 7:47:43 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Obama has literally offered to compromise to positions more right than what the right originally asked for and had those offers denied
so you are a condescending dickhead
[Edited on May 4, 2013 at 7:56 PM. Reason : so by your metric, that should be on par with your statement] 5/4/2013 7:55:56 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
You must have missed the "immature brats" part of my statement.
You also write like a 9th grader. 5/4/2013 8:07:52 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i disagree, dickhead is more 5th grade than 9th 5/4/2013 8:09:18 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Dickhead is a fine word, and I understood what you were saying. I agree with you, but I dont appreciate you focusing on my critique of Obama while breezing over my critique of Congress.
Either you have poor reading comprehension skills or dont understand partisan politics, but either way I feel like this is going to be a pretty short lived thread.
Ill leave you with a better sentence:
"Obama has literally offered to compromise on positions more right than what was originally offered; these were denied." 5/4/2013 8:12:25 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
*to positions 5/4/2013 8:14:21 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't understand why people that bitch so much about the federal debt act like the sequester is some horrible awful thing. it's only about 1/100 of what is actually required to get the budget in line anyways. can you imagine the outrage if politicians actually tried to do anything remotely close to being relevant to our budget woes?" |
Why would they do that? They're trying to get re-elected.5/4/2013 8:16:04 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
No, that was the biggest problem I had with your sentence. Im no English teacher, but I would mark it as "awkward" on a student paper.
I wouldnt count off for it though.
Of course the rest of it was awkward too; not quite a train-wreck.
[Edited on May 4, 2013 at 8:17 PM. Reason : -] 5/4/2013 8:16:20 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
on a left-right scale, he moved his positions to the right
on doesn't work in that sentence 5/4/2013 8:16:56 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Ok shitface, instead of this tit-for-tat bullshit why dont you resume your 3-word-per-day analysis of that gun control article that is so far beneath you?
Its really hard to take such a cultured 9th grader seriously. 5/4/2013 8:18:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it was a few pages per day
i've only looked at it for less than one day 5/4/2013 8:19:38 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
It must not be very important to you then.
Anyway, lets not derail this silly thread. 5/4/2013 8:21:31 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. It can't possibly be the fault of any other the other 300 people who voted for it. It certainly can't also be the fault of a Democratically controlled Senate or a Democratic President who signed it into law. Nope. The fault can ONLY be with two guys for whom I have a major hate-based hard-on 5/4/2013 10:00:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
nope 5/4/2013 10:09:30 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Ryan doesn't have the balls to stand by his handiwork. Says Obama wanted the sequester to pass
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/05/03/1950651/ryan-epa-sequester/?mobile=wp 5/5/2013 11:34:55 AM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^^^AS LONG AS ANY DEMOCRATS WERE INVOLVED IT WAS ALL THERE FAULT OMG 5/5/2013 7:44:36 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
ummm, no, I'm not a partisan hack. It's everyone in Washington's fault and the fault of everyone who doesn't vote these clowns out of office. 5/5/2013 11:22:37 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
You know I was going to make a post, but sometimes just having aaronburro post the opposite of your stance is a strong enough argument. 5/6/2013 9:13:42 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The sequester is going away agency by agency, in the order of who has the most powerful lobbyists, or how much congressmen themselves are inconvenienced. See: FAA." |
WRONG! More accurately, See: Air Traffic Controllers. There are still plenty of us who are on the chopping block, but don't get the huge headlines. Just wait until there is a body count due to a thunderstorm and then folks will ask why they got rid of all of the weather professionals...5/6/2013 6:17:41 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
that's why weather forecasting should be privatized 5/6/2013 6:29:54 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
You really don't want to go there... 5/6/2013 6:32:30 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
hence the " " 5/6/2013 7:14:11 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i mean, i have an app on my phone, why do i need government weather forecasters? 5/6/2013 7:20:32 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
^^
^ Yeah, like the douchebag congressperson who openly asked why we need the National Weather Service when he has the Weather Channel. The stupidity was unfathomable... 5/6/2013 7:35:13 PM |