supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
When I was listening to Saul's story in the audio book novel of Hyperion (im not a good reader) I came across the notion of obedience versus righteousness. To many of you, more learned, theologist this may sound rather juvenile but I cant help but not think about this. Its kinda alarming.
In the story of Abraham, when Abraham was tried for his obedience to his God and passed, he was made father bearer of the blessed nations on Earth by his God.
My thoughts on the matter are this:
If his God had not made him father bearer of the blessed nations on Earth could his God be considered a cruel God that applies harsh principles to install lessons.
Additionally, wouldn't this mean the actual story displays both a cruel AND evil entity not worthy of being called a God.
And lastly, does anybody else not see this story as barring to the three religions that have built themselves upon it. 5/20/2013 7:15:36 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
In before bullshit Froshkiller repost.
Also, of course the Bible is an evil piece of shit. He was conceived by primative, bigoted savages. 5/20/2013 8:47:53 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
lol 5/20/2013 8:49:38 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, lets say you have a choice.
Instantaneous blood mist or you have to kill your child.
I would choose instantaneous blood mist.
Other examples:
I have to kill one in a group of people to save the whole or all of us die. Thereby damning only me and the entity forcing me to do it.
No, absolutely not. We're all gonna die. The only one who should seek attonement is the entity. 5/20/2013 9:49:15 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
WTF 5/20/2013 9:57:30 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, just saying shit i think needs to be said 5/20/2013 9:59:52 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "INSTANTANEOUS
BLOOD
MIST" |
5/20/2013 10:12:08 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
And its fucked up that the permutations of these religious foundings have created people so cowardly and without dignity to blow themselves up and kill others for the religion's cause 5/20/2013 10:20:51 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
The Bible's god is a hypocritical sadistic irrational butthole. 5/20/2013 10:30:52 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Trying not to be on the verge of a self righteous tirade. Look at Christianity. It was quickly swallowed up and consolidated by the Romans when it got out. The council of Nicea and Constatine (who was a Pagan) stamped Christianity into form that suited the empire at the time. How much of is actually true to its original form.
If you take a critical look at what Christianity today resembles, it looks like necromancy and some sort of weird blood cult, which substituted divination over egulatarian views. 5/20/2013 10:57:15 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, and heaven forbid I criticize the Jews.
Its not like their homeland has been host to the worst and most meaningless bloodshed for the last 2 or 3 thousand years. 5/20/2013 11:13:52 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
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supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
I dont mind being trolled on these type of topics. As long as someone provides some sort of introspection i'm happy.
I dont abhor the bible. It does have compelling verses and the historical value is important.
[Edited on May 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM. Reason : I am in no way an expert of it admittedly] 5/20/2013 11:38:26 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
5/20/2013 11:56:03 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
what's jesus got to do with the old testament? 5/20/2013 12:33:55 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
It is laughable how the old testament is cited as the reason for condemning LGBT people yet Christians then ignore things like Deuteronomy 22:13-21. These passages basically state if a man finds out his wife lost her virginity prior to marriage the parents of the woman must prove she is. If they can't she must be stoned to death. I guess it is all about cherry picking. 5/20/2013 12:35:15 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
[qoute]what's jesus got to do with the old testament?[/quote]
Christians ultimately trace their leniage to the sons of Abraham I belive. Dont quote me on that though, Christianity is a gagglefuck of secularism 5/20/2013 1:08:26 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
what does Christianity have to do with secularism? 5/20/2013 1:13:05 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
well you have mormons who think the blessed land is the midwest USA, you have jehovah witness how have all sorts of different views from standard cristianity. Not to mention the host of protestant schisms and the main catholitic vs orthdox churches that split in instabul something something AD 5/20/2013 1:16:46 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
My picture was to express my opinion that you were trolling us.
Are you using a non-standard definition of the word "secularism?" 5/20/2013 1:45:00 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well you have mormons who think the blessed land is the midwest USA, you have jehovah witness how have all sorts of different views from standard cristianity." |
I don't see any problem here. They're just all wrong except for one. Choose wisely.5/20/2013 1:46:36 PM |
cain All American 7450 Posts user info edit post |
jesus. someone find frosh's rant. 5/20/2013 1:47:06 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
^^can I get a second chance if choose wrong
^ "JESUS HERE, HERE YA GO"
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT KID
LET ME TELL YOU A SECRET
NONE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON RELIGION ARE RADICAL OR EVEN THOUGHT-PROVOKING
IT'S NO SECRET YOU GOT THEM OFF A FUCKING WEBSITE
WE'VE ALL READ THE PROSELYTIZER QUESTIONNAIRE TOO
NOTHING YOU CAN SAY IS GOING TO LEND A FRESH OUTLOOK
DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
THAT FOR SEVERAL FUCKING CENTURIES NOW
SOME OF THE MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE IN THE ANNALS OF HUMAN HISTORY
HAVE DEVOTED THEIR LIVES TO ANSWERING DEEPER THEOLOGICAL CONCERNS
THAN YOUR PETTY BULLSHIT
ABOUT THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE GENEALOGIES OF CHRIST IN THE GOSPELS?
I MEAN
HOLY FUCK
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY COCKSUCKER WHO EVER NOTICED THAT OR SOMETHING?!
WAKE THE FUCK UP
YOU'RE STILL JUST A STUPID KID
AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHAMEFUL
INCONSIDERATE
AND DISRESPECTFUL
BECAUSE MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO LIVE ACCORDING TO A STRICT MORAL CODE
AND MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO ACTUALLY TRY AND DEVELOP A STRONG, HONORABLE CHARACTER
BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT
FOR YOU TO ATTACK MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO PLAY THE VICTIM
TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY "FORCE THEIR BELIEFS" ON YOU
BY HANDING OUT A FUCKING PAMPHLET
I MEAN HOLY FUCKING CHRIST
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS TEN TIMES WORSE
GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY
THIS REBELLION AGAINST MOMMY AND DADDY ISN'T IMPRESSING ANYONE
WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE
YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST
YOU ARE NOT EVEN REMARKABLE
STOP ARGUING WITH GARY
HE IS MAKING A FOOL OF YOU
I SWEAR UPON THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE PIERCED FUCKING JEW KING
THAT IF YOU PULL THIS SALISBURYBOY, SYLVERSHADOW KIND OF SHIT ON ME
YOU WORTHLESS WICCAN PANTYSTAIN
I WILL SPLIT THE TENDER TISSUES OF YOUR WEEPING ASSHOLE
WITH A HARDCOVER EDITION OF THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
OF THE HOLY FUCKING BIBLE
YOU THINK YOU'RE SO FUCKING SMART
I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO THE SAME SHIT WITH ANY RELIGION
BESIDES CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM
WITH SOME BOOK BESIDES THE BIBLE OR THE TORAH
YOU AIDS-FELCHING CUM FLAKE
SO PUT THAT IN YOUR FUCKING PIPE YOU JUST BOUGHT FROM BUDDHA'S BELLY
THE FIRST WEEKEND YOU WERE UP HERE
AND SMOKE IT
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT COLLEGE KID
and that's my word.
[Edited on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM. Reason : he works in mysterious ways] 5/20/2013 1:56:49 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They're just all wrong except for one." |
Way more likely that they're all wrong.5/20/2013 2:13:31 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shing%C5%8D,_Aomori
Quote : | "When Jesus Christ was 21 years old, he came to Japan and pursued knowledge of divinity for 12 years. He went back to Judea at age 33 and engaged in his mission. However, at that time, people in Judea would not accept Christ's preaching. Instead, they arrested him and tried to crucify him on a cross. His younger brother, Isukiri casually took Christ's place and ended his life on the cross. Christ, who escaped the crucifixion, went through the ups and downs of travel, and again came to Japan. He settled right here in what is now called Herai Village, and died at the age of 106. On this holy ground, there is dedicated a burial mound on the right to deify Christ, and a grave on the left to deify Isukiri. The above description was given in a testament by Jesus Christ." |
I'd say this one has a pretty good chance.5/20/2013 2:46:23 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
lol, cool 5/20/2013 3:16:09 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
You know what, fuck it. Fuck me.
As being the harsh critic of religion I have bowed down to my own ignorance. I have scammed myself by making another one of /these/ threads and have to make an appeal here.
I don't know what its like to lose a kid. I cant fucking phathom it. Who am I to criticize any faith.
The fucking Frosh rant not only applies to me, I went to buddhas belly the first day I went to live in rahleigh.
Hell no dude. Im not about to picture myself as an intellectual conceited mother fucker.
Im sorry. please ignore this silioguy. Im not even smart enough to spell silioguy right.
Fuck it, you can toaste you hanukkas, bake your Christ chips, and yell alla akkbar all the fuck you want.
Im done 5/22/2013 4:01:53 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
What are you upset about again? 5/22/2013 7:13:26 AM |
Thunderoso All American 528 Posts user info edit post |
Japanese Jesus sounds cool. screw you guys i'm gonna go be his friend. 5/22/2013 8:02:21 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Im tired
Im tired of these mother fucking snakes on this mother fucking plane 5/22/2013 11:10:51 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "please ignore this silioguy." |
yeah, i been gone a long time, but who the fuck is this clown?5/22/2013 1:48:02 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "5/22/2013 4:01:53 AM" |
oh, never mind. carry on.5/22/2013 1:49:37 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
yey the revival of the "STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT COLLEGE KID" meme that was so familiar to me since I myself was in college 5/22/2013 2:27:31 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I'm 10 years away from being a college kid and I still don't believe in fairy tales. What meme applies to me? 5/23/2013 8:37:19 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT TRICENARIAN FATHER
Note: I have no idea if you have kids 5/23/2013 8:47:09 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, I do. And I guess I could be closeted, but wouldn't that ordinarily be mutually exclusive? 5/23/2013 9:42:34 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Not if you're a republican. 5/23/2013 11:16:35 AM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have to kill one in a group of people to save the whole or all of us die" |
This is like the first 15 minutes of discussion in a high school ethics class. Like before you even read anything.
I'm Krallum and I approved this message.5/23/2013 12:18:38 PM |