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dmspack
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fuck that giant ass picture

12/21/2016 8:02:24 PM

ncsuallday
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think they'll release the NOA Friday at 5:30 like usual, or dinnertime Christmas Day?

12/22/2016 9:31:51 AM

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"dinnertime Christmas Day"

12/22/2016 9:35:09 AM

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dave glenn #sources

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"David Glenn Show ?@DavidGlennShow 1h1 hour ago
BREAKING: @NCAA revised NOA to @UNC:
1-reinstates 'extra benefit' charge
2-specifies FB & MBB
3-expands timeline (now fall 2002-summer 2011)"

12/22/2016 9:53:32 AM

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Here's to hoping this shit sticks this time. They absolutely should be held accountable.

12/22/2016 9:56:04 AM

Dynasty2004
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This will be it! IT! and it will be amazing.

12/22/2016 9:57:08 AM

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^^^If true, then I guess I'm willing to delay gratification for another two years for this bullshit to work its way through the "system."


But the press needs to asking the NCAA why those points were originally removed from the NOA. This shit is not moving in a linear way, and it's not making a ton of sense.

[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 9:59 AM. Reason : I blame swofford]

12/22/2016 9:59:27 AM

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I think there's something shady goin on with Emmert in charge. Long as that Slimy POS stays in charge, I expect nothing to happen to the Cheats

12/22/2016 10:01:37 AM

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"3-expands timeline (now fall 2002-summer 2011)""


What was the previous timeline? Totally agree with above, the media needs to be all over this to get some clarity, because this dont make sense.

12/22/2016 11:08:35 AM

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I forget how far back the original timeline went, but it just so happened to skip UNCs championship bball seasons

12/22/2016 11:39:27 AM

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Just heard UNC released it

12/22/2016 12:12:58 PM

ncsuallday
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http://wncn.com/2016/12/22/unc-issues-response-to-3rd-notice-of-allegations-from-ncaa/

UNC Response:

https://mgtvwncn.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/december-21-2016-letter-from-rick-evrard-to-greg-sankey.pdf

man, they're snarky as hell considering all of this.

Quote :
"Simply stated, it is not the "fundamental fairness contemplated by the NCAA constitution and bylaws" for the Panel to deny the University the ability to place evidence before it and to pick and choose what it considers to be an appropriate part of the record"




[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM. Reason : fuck them]

12/22/2016 12:35:03 PM

scotieb24
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FB and MBB named

Oh We Back!

12/22/2016 12:35:18 PM

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"Andrew Carter @_andrewcarter
The third NOA (second amended) reinstates references to football and men's basketball. They're in the first allegation, written strongly."




But yeah, nothing gonna happen

12/22/2016 12:35:54 PM

Lionheart
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Btw to all the butthurt carolina fans. NCAA gave you a soft out where all you had to do was pin in on WBB and you threw it back in their faces. What the hell did you think was gonna happen.

12/22/2016 12:40:51 PM

dmspack
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but roy said basketball isn't and wasn't involved

roy said

guys

he said so

12/22/2016 12:41:32 PM

ncsuallday
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remember when all of the UNC fans were applauding their university for sticking it to the man

lol at that now

also

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"The University said it may ask for more than the typical 90 days to respond to the third NOA due to “the shifting nature of the allegations.”"


translation: we want to extend this past the ACC and NCAA tournaments where we have a good shot this year

[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 12:43 PM. Reason : .]

12/22/2016 12:42:15 PM

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https://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/files/2016/12/NCAA-third-notice-of-allegations.pdf

12/22/2016 12:56:23 PM

scotieb24
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Just noticed Roy was listed this time. He wasn't mentioned before right?

12/22/2016 1:36:57 PM

JT3bucky
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Correct.

Also lists Womens BBall players but no individual football or mbball players.

Another delay...

I think Roy retires after this year, he's starting to be shown as a thief and liar.

12/22/2016 1:49:52 PM

SSS
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Much like Michael Glapion?

12/22/2016 1:55:16 PM

JP
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Roy is tired of this junk

12/22/2016 2:02:37 PM

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http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/north-carolinas-arrogance-might-have-backfired-in-ncaa-academic-fraud-case/

12/24/2016 12:01:33 PM

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the 2005 men's basketball banner comin down!

12/24/2016 12:57:49 PM

GingaNinja
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What about 2009? Find one player that received the "extra benefit" of a fake class in 09, just like 05.

12/24/2016 5:43:02 PM

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""The change appears to have been based, in part, on a belief by the enforcement staff that the COI does not generally support the consideration of impermissible academic assistance allegations," the COI panel wrote to UNC. "That is not an accurate characterization of the COI's position. The COI will consider allegations of violations of NCAA rules, including those involving impermissible academic assistance and academic misconduct, when the facts are present to support such allegations. The COI does not support impermissible academic assistance allegations that appear to constitute academic misconduct. The COI has never intended to suggest that appropriately framed academic allegations (i.e., impermissible academic assistance or academic misconduct) should not be presented to the COI.""


Tha fuq?

I'm glad that this entire process is turning against UNC, but the NCAA is so bush league. You mean to tell me that No one on the enforcement staff could walk their fat ass over to COI to make sure they were on the same page for what could very well be one of the most significant enforcement cases the NCAA will ever deal with? That smells completely like bullshit.

12/24/2016 6:37:23 PM

dmspack
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^i'm dumb and that quoted text is confusing to me. read it a couple times and i'm not really sure what it says.

12/24/2016 8:37:13 PM

bbehe
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There are two parties involved in that quote
The enforcement staff = NCAA investigation staff
The COI = the part of the NCAA that actually determines punishment

Apparently the enforcement staff didn't think the COI would be interested in the allegations of improper academic assistance (I have no idea why) and so the 2nd Notice of Allegations was presented that really didn't take in account all the paper classes because UNC said it was an academic problem. The COI corrected the enforcement staff and said they'll consider the allegations of all the sham classes.

I think



I honestly don't know, that shit is horribly written.

[Edited on December 24, 2016 at 8:59 PM. Reason : spelling ]

12/24/2016 8:51:44 PM

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Same here, it's easier to understand in the context of the article.

The NCAA is trying to explain to UNC why the second NOA is different from the most recent NOA. The enforcement staff apparently writes the NOAs and the COI staff are like the judges, hearing appeals, etc. they are claiming they left many of the academic shenanigans (MBB and FB) out of the 2nd NOA because they didn't think the COI wanted/could punish UNC for that. COI is like "nah, we should probably take care of this," and now the NOA is back to where it was.

I want to see UNC eat shit and die as much as the next guy, but it's pretty clear that the NCAA is kinda stumbling through the dark and their process is shit.

[Edited on December 24, 2016 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ^yes, thank you. I'm not deleting this cause it took me 5 mins]

12/24/2016 8:54:25 PM

bbehe
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I don't see why the Enforcement staff is called that if the COI is the one deciding/enforcing punishments

12/24/2016 8:57:27 PM

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I don't see why it's taken over five years to punish a school which admitted to serving up fake classes for almost two decades, either, but that's the NCAA for ya.


Having said that, I can see why UNC might be a little miffed. Why the heck did it take this long to release the "corrected" NOA? I mean, I would think the COI would have seen it before it went out and said something, or would have said something shortly after it went out like "Hey, where did all the bad shit go?"

[Edited on December 25, 2016 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ]

12/25/2016 10:15:39 AM

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WE BACK?!?

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/longtime-aide-in-unc-af-am-department-denies-claims-of-wainstein-report/16575199/

3/9/2017 6:04:10 PM

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She's still denying everything.

3/9/2017 6:46:01 PM

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"Deborah Crowder, a former department manager for the African and Afro-American Studies department, called the classes “customized educational opportunities for students to solve problems created by the institutional bureaucracy.”

“That is what these courses were about – they were about educating students, irrespective of whether they were athletes; all students were treated equal,” she said in the affidavit.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article137575478.html#storylink=cpy"


Fuck you lady. You had a chance to talk previously and you didn't then, what changed?

3/9/2017 7:57:47 PM

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UNC getting desperate and paying her off.

3/9/2017 8:07:18 PM

Lionheart
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^I don't see how her coming out now helps UNC unless people are that naive to believe it.


Or the conspiracy theorist in me says that the NCAA finds some way to use this to let them go light on UNC.

3/9/2017 8:11:49 PM

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I can't believe this bitch is playing the race card and trying to say everyone was treated equally at the same time.

3/9/2017 9:27:05 PM

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The only people she's cooperating with are those over at UNC. She's had what, five years to talk? And just now, 2 business days before UNC is required to respond to their ANOA does she come forward?

The idea that she's somehow just now decided to clear the record is ridiculous.

3/10/2017 6:57:19 AM

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I wonder what non-revenue program they'll self-report a minor violation on this time so they can extend it out even further.

Pretty smart of them to delay, delay, delay. Looks like it will work out for them in the end, although I hope the NCAA is smarter than that and is about to bitch slap them for their cocky response the last go around.

3/10/2017 9:51:01 AM

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If the State opens up a case against the NCAA or the ACC does that mean discovery?

this could get interesting...

3/15/2017 1:20:36 AM

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"The only people she's cooperating with are those over at UNC. She's had what, five years to talk? And just now, 2 business days before UNC is required to respond to their ANOA does she come forward?

The idea that she's somehow just now decided to clear the record is ridiculous."


I have no idea how to even begin to look for it, but I'm pretty sure there was solid evidence/quotes that this lady was/is a diehard UNC fan, to the point of treating players like sons and crying/staying out of work the next day after a loss.

If those things are true, she'll do whatever UNC tells her.

3/15/2017 9:21:53 AM

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"If the State opens up a case against the NCAA or the ACC does that mean discovery?"


go on...

3/15/2017 11:50:00 AM

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^^She has also been banging Warren Martin. He used to play basketball for UNC and is a teacher at my kids middle school. They live on both sides of a duplex together in Pittsboro.

And now they are having to delay AGAIN:

http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/ncaa-case-tied-uncs-academic-case-hits-another-delay

[Edited on March 15, 2017 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2017 3:12:36 PM

ncsuallday
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the NCAA needs to just shut this bullshit down. If they try to make a legal case it would just open them up for discovery anyway.

3/15/2017 3:25:03 PM

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the legal case they are talking about (i think) is the bill introduced to investigate if the ACC and NCAA should have their tax exempt status revoked because of boycotting the state over HB2, and i don't see that bill going anywhere for reasons

3/15/2017 3:31:29 PM

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In line at the Arby's on Miami blvd there's a red dodge car with N C State stickers and a license plate that said Roy Knew. I'd like to shake that man's hand

3/21/2017 1:35:32 PM

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In line at the Arby's on Miami blvd there's a red dodge car with N C State stickers and a license plate that said Roy Knew. I'd like to shake that man's hand

3/21/2017 1:35:32 PM

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Quote :
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red

dodge

car
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3/21/2017 2:00:43 PM

ncsuallday
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http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/north-carolina-tar-heels-academic-scandal-final-four-roy-williams-032817

3/28/2017 3:18:41 PM

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its a red dodge dart

3/29/2017 10:13:28 AM

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