her in her cunt?

Four months ago my roommate and I found a third roommate on Craigslist. She is an "executive" at an international company based out of Cincy, and if I had to guess makes $200k. She had just sold her house and most of her stuff, and indicated she would be moving soon. We at first told her we didn't really need her to sign a lease, but she encouraged us to write one up so if/when she left early, her company would buy out the remainder of the lease. We thought that sounded like a pretty sweet deal, so my other roommate's lawyer friend drafted up a pretty standard lease and she signed it.

She just told us she is being transferred to Australia, and that her company *might* pay for 2-3 months, but if we want more than that, "we'll have to go up against their legal team". Then, later that night, she tells me all about her $60-80k bonuses and expense reimbursement she is getting for moving over there.

My question is, what the fuck does this have to do with the legal professionals at her company? They aren't on the lease, they have nothing to do with this. If SHE wants to be reimbursed for paying off the remainder of the lease, then she needs to take that up with them, AMIRITE?

You can't just make an offer and walk out on a residential lease, right?

7/30/2013 11:52:34 AM

Did not read. You can always punch your roommate in the cunt

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7/30/2013 11:56:21 AM

^

7/30/2013 11:58:00 AM

seems pretty straightforward. she signed a contract, she must play by the rules. saying she has a legal team is a scare tactic that is obviously working. tell her to take her yarmulke off and pay what she owes.

7/30/2013 12:00:17 PM

Someone who makes six figures that finds their housing via Craigslist is shady? I, for one, am floored by this turn of events

7/30/2013 12:00:23 PM

I mean, you guys didn't even want her to sign a lease because you knew this might be coming right? If her company pays 2-3 months, that's pretty awesome and would allow you time to find somebody else, and maybe even profit about off it.

7/30/2013 12:01:22 PM

^^well, I tried to explain her situation so it made more sense (why is someone with so much money renting, from craigslist, with two other people). she's kind of a hippy in general, but I think this was just a matter of convenience. she is single, 35, had sold all her stuff (and her house), and was planning on being relocated soon.

so she got a really nice house that is fully furnished with everything she needed, and besides that, she is absolutely the laziest and most inconsiderate person I've ever met (in terms of cleaning up after herself, contributing to the welfare of our home, etc), so she got two built in housekeepers.


^we didn't see a need for her to sign a lease because generally our experience with other roommates has been pretty casual, and trusting. She was saying "hey, have me sign a lease, because that will be a great deal for you!" she didn't tell us she was most likely going to be relocated until after the lease suggestion. the ad was for 1 year. If we had known she was going to be dipping out and we were going to have to start this whole roommate-search process over again in 6 mos, we never would have chosen her (there were several other legit, likeable candidates).

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2013 12:04:15 PM

I'm applying SC landlord/tenant law...but basically you have to make a reasonable effort to rent out the room. If you can't find a tenant, then she's obligated to pay her share of the rent.

You should be able to get a couple months out of her and then find someone to fill in the room. Doesn't sound like a huge undertaking.

7/30/2013 12:06:05 PM

^yeah, that's what I thought. but what is considered a "reasonable effort"? should we have to settle for some scab because it's been two months without anyone awesome responding? she insinuated the same thing when we first discussed this upon meeting her, and she was just like "you'll just have to keep posting the ad on craigslist, and if it comes down to it, be able to prove that you've responded to some of the emails"

7/30/2013 12:08:40 PM

slappy, do you or the other roommate own the place or are you also renters? If the "lease" you had the 3rd roommate sign was actually a sublease, you're fucked.

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM. Reason : a]

7/30/2013 12:09:08 PM

Quote :

"Someone who makes six figures that finds their housing via Craigslist is shady? I, for one, am floored by this turn of events"

This is the real question here. Why is someone making that much money living with roommates to begin with? Hell my top budgetary priority is allocating enough money to be able to afford my own place.

7/30/2013 12:10:34 PM

Quote :

"^yeah, that's what I thought. but what is considered a "reasonable effort"? should we have to settle for some scab because it's been two months without anyone awesome responding? she insinuated the same thing when we first discussed this upon meeting her, and she was just like "you'll just have to keep posting the ad on craigslist, and if it comes down to it, be able to prove that you've responded to some of the emails""

Yeah...that last sentence is about right. Obviously you have a little discretion in who you choose to rent out the room...but once someone reasonable comes up, you should probably let them have the room.

7/30/2013 12:12:29 PM

^^^we rent. so it's technically a sublease, but I don't think she knows that. I figured that would be the case, but I'm hoping it doesn't come up and she is a reasonable person. I'm willing to work with her and come up with a compromise, but I *hate* when people try to screw me over, especially given the circumstances (her doing the bait-and-switch), and the fact that she's trying to intimidate me with the fact that her "legal department" will be getting involved.

7/30/2013 12:20:16 PM

Quote :

"If SHE wants to be reimbursed for paying off the remainder of the lease, then she needs to take that up with them, AMIRITE?"

Yes

If her name is on the lease, she's responsible, PERIOD. /thread

7/30/2013 12:22:35 PM

I refuse to believe anything she says about her employment situation is remotely true, so throw the legal team stuff out the window.

7/30/2013 12:29:37 PM

post her nudes online and just be done with it

7/30/2013 12:32:47 PM

break her neck

im sick of shit like this

every law protects the moron and those of low character

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 12:35 PM. Reason : e]

7/30/2013 12:35:25 PM

If there really is a corporate legal team (there isn't) it would be cheaper for them to buy out a low cost residential lease than actually defend the matter. They're not going to send a $500 an hour lawyer to small claims court.

7/30/2013 12:41:25 PM

Quote :

"My question is, what the fuck does this have to do with the legal professionals at her company? They aren't on the lease, they have nothing to do with this. If SHE wants to be reimbursed for paying off the remainder of the lease, then she needs to take that up with them, AMIRITE?"

you are correct. she is responsible for paying the amount of the remaining lease that her company doesn't.

7/30/2013 12:52:28 PM

here is today's convo, for any interested parties

roommate: Megan, can u please send me an electronic copy of the lease? I want to have legal look at it before our conversation. If I can get it today, I am going to hold off on the conversation till legal looks at the lease
If I can't get it today... Can't have to combo, if I can get it today we are golden

me: That's fine, but just out of curiosity, what does your legal dept have to do with our lease? You're the one that signed it, not them (not trying to be a bitch, just genuinely curious)
And I think I have a copy on my desktop, I'll send it over

roommate: It is having a lawyer look at a legal document to understand options. It is a common practice if u engage in breaking any lease

me: No I totally understand that, but when we talked a few weeks ago it sounded like you were insinuating that we would have to go up against them if we wanted to enforce the parameters of the lease

roommate: I don't know about all that, but this is my a conversation that I a
Is appropriate over text
Sorry... Meant to say, not an appropriate conversation over texting

me: I understand. Just wanted to clarify that about why your legal dept was getting involved, so I can communicate that to my atty

roommate: That is perfect actually. Why don't you send over the information of your lawyer and we can work through them if you prefer. I think the hiccup is with me not knowing the terms if your lease. We are paying rent out to someone who could move and we would never know it. So we may need the info of the actual landlord of the house. Or maybe not, maybe it will just be paid. I think it will be smooth. Or we can agree on subletting terms

me: Sorry I missed your call. We (obviously) cannot afford to pay an attorney $325/hour to dick around with your legal team, over a $750 lease. This is absurd. I think the problem lies in that we were led to believe one thing when you moved in and now we're dealing with something different. We'll figure it out

roommate: I don't want you to pay that either. I thought you were working with a family friend or something. No worries. Be careful though... No one mislead you and your not a victim. You will come out better in this situation than you would have if you rented to anyone else. Remember that before you get all sassy... I am going to make sure we do what is best for you and Emily

me: I wasn't trying to be sassy or defensive - I don't recall ever claiming victim status, but when you moved in you assured us that either you would be there for a year (by way of signing a year lease) or that your company would reimburse you in the event that you had to break it. This isn't so much about the money as it is having to deal with all this stuff all over again.

7/30/2013 1:06:13 PM

stop being so sassy

7/30/2013 1:15:31 PM

I'm fairly certain your rental agreement with your landlord forbids subletting. You're fucked.

7/30/2013 1:19:56 PM

we have done it, with her knowledge (albeit without official leases) for the nearly 3 years we've lived at that house.

so, there's that.

7/30/2013 1:23:02 PM

Jesus H. Christ....women...

7/30/2013 1:23:55 PM

haha I know, right? I was thinking that as I posted it. we are horrible.

7/30/2013 1:28:52 PM

SlappySoSassy

7/30/2013 1:30:21 PM

Quote :

"me: I understand. Just wanted to clarify that about why your legal dept was getting involved, so I can communicate that to my atty roommate: That is perfect actually."

Oh burrrrn

7/30/2013 3:14:03 PM

I'm interested in this Emily character. Whats her story

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[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM. Reason : she need a place to live?]

7/30/2013 3:25:07 PM

Quote :

"I mean, you guys didn't even want her to sign a lease because you knew this might be coming right? If her company pays 2-3 months, that's pretty awesome and would allow you time to find somebody else, and maybe even profit about off it."

7/30/2013 3:34:02 PM

Yeah, it still sounds like a pretty good deal to me. You weren't even going to have her sign a lease in the first place, and it sounds like you're not technically even in a position to be enforcing a lease...

You should probably be nice to her and try to get that 2-3 months of rent either from her company or from her. It sounds like her employer will probably figure out that she doesn't actually owe you anything...so, if you want anything at all for your trouble, do not punch her in the cunt.

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM. Reason : sounds, sounds, sounds]

7/30/2013 3:44:47 PM

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"I refuse to believe anything she says about her employment situation is remotely true, so throw the legal team stuff out the window. "

7/30/2013 3:50:03 PM

This sounds like some Sarose shit. I bet that bitch doesn't even have a job. She probably dresses real bummy after she leaves the house and begs for change on the corner of an exit ramp off I-40.

She said she's moving, but that's just because she can make more change by faking a gimp leg in NYC.

7/30/2013 3:50:41 PM

AHA, she does sound sketchy.

However, it seems like the only person who is violating a valid lease is slappy1.

And, as far as housing resolutions go, this situation is practically ideal. Just find another roommate...that's kind of how it goes.

7/30/2013 4:07:48 PM

why wouldnt she owe anything if she signed a contract?

why dont you call her company after giving her the lease and ask for someone in her legal dept and ask them for an update after a few days

see if she is full of shit

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM. Reason : sdf]

7/30/2013 4:08:32 PM

Quote :

"This sounds like some Sarose shit. I bet that bitch doesn't even have a job"

7/30/2013 4:12:05 PM

you should post all her info here so we can dox her

or

tell PackPride that she is involved with PJ Hairston and they will find out everything about her lol

7/30/2013 4:14:34 PM

^^^Because slappy1 doesn't have the authority to enforce the contract. It's not her property to lease in the first place, and her own lease, if djeternal is correct, specifically prohibits her from doing what she did.

I think it's fine that she did so informally, and I'm not judging or anything, but I'd be pretty darn happy with 2-3 months paid rent while I found another roommate. There's just nothing here to get cunt-punchy about.

7/30/2013 4:15:05 PM

Quote :

"She had just sold her house skipped out of her last lease and sold most of her landlord's stuff"

FIFY

7/30/2013 5:00:11 PM

Quote :

"^^^Because slappy1 doesn't have the authority to enforce the contract. It's not her property to lease in the first place, and her own lease, if djeternal is correct, specifically prohibits her from doing what she did."

But djeternal's position is that this slappy1 signed a lease as an individual for a place for 3 people that forbids subletting. Why would anyone ever be stupid enough to sign such a lease?

There would be a case if sublets don't have the same claims to future rent that an owner who drafted a lease does. There's no reason to believe that, and no one has really claimed that directly. So meh.

7/30/2013 6:09:06 PM

shady job situation aside, judging by the text conversation it seems like your roommate is acting perfectly reasonable. you wouldn't have even had a lease if she didn't suggest it. Even if you can pursue her legally, it's almost surely not worth it.

1. Be nice
2. Take your 2-3 months rent payments
3. Find new roommate that you actually like
4. ....
5. $Profit

Sounds like a good deal all around to me. Not sure why you are getting assed up about it.

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM. Reason : d]

7/30/2013 6:23:07 PM

I assumed djeternal was just joking around about the "no subletting" thing.

7/30/2013 6:25:10 PM

Quote :

"I don't recall ever claiming victim status"

doesn't matter, she thought you sounded like a victim so she responded as if you were "playing the victim" (as if that's something people who aren't totally shady actually do)

7/30/2013 6:29:35 PM

how can she slap?

7/30/2013 6:30:17 PM

jesus fucking tittyballs, women. take the free money and get over it.

7/30/2013 7:14:18 PM

This is why women can't break through the glass ceiling

7/30/2013 7:29:40 PM

women making nothing into something ITT

you're going to fuck around, piss her off, and get zero dollars

chill the fuck out

7/30/2013 7:50:44 PM

IT'S NOT FREE MONEY. THERE IS STILL 1/3 OF THE RENT THAT WILL NEED TO BE PAID

why should I have to rush and accept any subpar potential roommate just because she decided to dip out early? I'm too old to be sharing a house with shitty people just because I need the money.

Our house is the shit and my living situation, up to this point, has been awesome. I'm not going to settle just because she's reneging on an agreement.


^there is a lot more frustration leading up to this point in the story, mostly revolving around her being inconsiderate, lazy, 2-4 weeks late on rent nearly every month, my passive aggressiveness/not voicing our concerns, her disgusting cat, etc.

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 7:57 PM. Reason : I digress]

7/30/2013 7:55:51 PM

This is why you don't get on leases with roommates where everyone is responsible for the pot.

[Edited on July 30, 2013 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2013 7:57:50 PM

I've run out of fucks to give concerning this thread

7/30/2013 8:00:51 PM

Well, as long as you digress...

7/30/2013 8:01:15 PM