Found this guy in/near a pool at a house. Go:



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8/21/2013 4:26:45 PM

much smaller than mine :^)

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8/21/2013 4:29:00 PM

wet snake

8/21/2013 4:30:56 PM

Yeah I think its a juvenile something. Maybe rate snake?

8/21/2013 4:31:11 PM

all jokes aside, it's probably a water snake of some sort.

8/21/2013 4:34:32 PM

Shoulda be a dead snake.

8/21/2013 4:35:06 PM

Trouser

8/21/2013 4:40:39 PM

curved as fuck yo

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8/21/2013 4:43:25 PM

It's a pretty snake

8/21/2013 4:43:27 PM

banded water snake?



Are you near the coast?

8/21/2013 4:45:40 PM

Just kill the damn thing.

8/21/2013 4:47:23 PM

some dude on here is really into snakes but i can't remember his username. he probably knows.

8/21/2013 4:48:30 PM

snakypus

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8/21/2013 4:49:02 PM

i was expecting to see emce's penis

8/21/2013 4:51:01 PM

This was in Corolla so yes, a water snake is certainly a high possibility.

8/21/2013 4:56:02 PM

Northern Watersnake?

http://dpughphoto.com/images/northern%20water%20snake%20eno%20cole%2040407.JPG

8/21/2013 4:56:22 PM

It's a hatchling eastern hognose (Heterodon platirhinos), a harmless toad-eater. Why doesn't anyone page me anymore for these threads? Better yet, PM me when you need a snake identified, and avoid all the speculation.

pic of one I found last year:


closeup:



If you haven't already noticed, if you bother it enough, it will play dead.

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8/21/2013 5:54:17 PM

Looks like a cottonmouth to me

8/21/2013 5:55:51 PM

^^ He's right cool little snake not super common.

8/21/2013 6:45:57 PM

maybe I should just leave this one alone :3

8/21/2013 7:52:47 PM

Looks like that pic all right.

A lady at a rental house said she was bit by it in the pool when she hopped off a float.

8/21/2013 8:04:22 PM

8/21/2013 8:06:25 PM

A lady at a rental house IS FULL OF SHIT!

8/21/2013 9:04:29 PM

My brother and his friends caught a decent sized hognose a few years ago. It was really aggressive and would strike the aquarium every time someone walked into the room. I finally convinced them to let the poor thing go. It obviously didn't want to be friends.

8/21/2013 9:29:30 PM

Their strikes are typically just bluffs.

8/21/2013 11:43:33 PM

8/21/2013 11:46:53 PM

I spotted these two snakes (plus 3 more in the rip rap apron sunning on the other side) on a bridge we are building in Halifax County, just west of Roanoke Rapids. The crew is hell bent on calling these snakes cottonmouths or water mocassins. I don't think they are. I think they are brown water snakes. What are they???

8/5/2014 10:36:47 AM

Anacondas.

8/5/2014 10:48:21 AM

those guys ARE pretty fat... but the shape of the head gives it away.

8/5/2014 10:48:40 AM

^so, brown water snake??

8/5/2014 10:59:58 AM

8/5/2014 11:34:01 AM

sorry for the small image....thought it was funny though...if someone can repost bigger, I would appreciate it.

8/5/2014 11:35:11 AM

[Edited on August 5, 2014 at 12:01 PM. Reason : if you want to post a TWW image at full size, just capitalize one of the letters in .jpg]

8/5/2014 12:01:09 PM

Yeah those snakes look harmless

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8/5/2014 1:16:32 PM

Thank you Justin.... I learned something new today

8/5/2014 1:18:47 PM

^^The markings on the snakes I posted do not band all the way around like the picture of the northern water snake. The markings seem to checkerboard pattern, like the brown water snake.

http://srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/nertax.htm

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8/5/2014 1:22:50 PM

A colleague of my wife has a big motherfucker dog got bitten by snake last week.

8/5/2014 1:26:36 PM

^^yeah sorry I went back and read more replies and changed mine

8/5/2014 1:28:53 PM

^No troubles. Yea, brown water snake or northern water snake doesn't make much difference to me. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't the cottonmouth that the crew was claiming.

8/5/2014 1:35:01 PM

When a snake looks like it has an arrowhead... Worry... Otherwise they are usually pretty cool.

8/5/2014 1:40:30 PM

You got it. Both of those are 100% brown water snake. Probably the water snake species most commonly confused with cottonmouths for little reason other than they hang around water (often perched on limbs over the water) and get pretty big. Head shape is a little different from our other water snakes, and like you said, the pattern on the body also distinguishes them (along with that dark olive green color).

8/5/2014 4:11:40 PM

^thanks. You wouldn't believe how strong willed my crew was on calling these two snakes cottonmouths. As soon as I saw them, I didn't think they were, but the heads were close enough for me to second guess. The crew makeup was 4 guys that were 40 years old plus. I would have thought they would have seen enough snakes to not call these two cottonmouths. I was the only one saying that they were water snakes, at the time I just didn't know what kind of water snake. I guess any snake near the water, and it is automatically a moccosin to a large portion of the population.

8/6/2014 10:36:57 AM

correct me if I am wrong, but in the continental US, the only venomous snake without vertical-slit shaped pupils and triangular head is the coral snake (the way to identify that is "red meets black, poison it lacks. Red meets yellow, can kill a fellow").

It seems to me someone can easily identify all north American snakes that way

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8/6/2014 10:45:45 AM

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8/6/2014 1:55:19 PM

That looks way too much like Joe the Plumber

8/6/2014 2:29:04 PM

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"correct me if I am wrong, but in the continental US, the only venomous snake without vertical-slit shaped pupils and triangular head is the coral snake (the way to identify that is "red meets black, poison it lacks. Red meets yellow, can kill a fellow"). It seems to me someone can easily identify all north American snakes that way "

If you want me to get technical, then no. There are many more venomous snakes than the layman recognizes, though many of those are too small to bite or their venom is not threatening to humans.

Some snakes that are generally considered non-venomous have bites that occasionally produce symptoms that reflect those of envenomation (happens on occasion with some hognose snakes and garter snakes). Though, the biggest thing that keeps professionals from calling any of the snakes in these cases "venomous" is the fact that no one has ever identified a venom gland in these species. There are snakes for which few or no bite occurrences are known, and sometimes snakes that are at times considered "mildly venomous, but harmless to humans" eventually prove they're less than harmless to humans.

Now while it can be easy to identify whether a snake is venomous or not by vertical pupils, that really doesn't work for the entire continental US. First of all, some venomous snakes have a very dark iris that makes it difficult to see the pupil. Second of all and tied to that first point, one would have to approach a venomous snake and enter the strike zone in order to get a clear look. Not the smartest move to make. Third of all, there are species such as the Lyre Snake (Trimorphodon biscutatus), which are considered harmless, but have vertical pupils.

Anyway, your approach works for the eastern US. I always suggest that when people don't know which species they're looking at and/or don't know how to safely handle it, just leave it the fuck alone.

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8/6/2014 6:28:08 PM

^fair enough.

I grew up with a 2" thick book that had full-page color pictures of MANY species, and a description on the opposite page. Loved that thing.... till my aunt asked for it back. I've never seen another animal book like it. (green hardback)

8/6/2014 8:25:04 PM

my take is

if it's brown, it's going down

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