synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Share them deets. 9/23/2013 12:24:56 AM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
I've been cheated on and cheated with (?). PM for storytime! 9/23/2013 1:37:57 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Cheated on at least once - she was a pathological liar so I shouldn't have been too surprised.
How about if someone cheated with me? That's happened way too often
Never cheated, though. I'm that awesome.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 1:39 AM. Reason : ] 9/23/2013 1:39:12 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
someone cheating with you is you cheating. 9/23/2013 3:33:37 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
They don't have to tell you, so I kinda disagree. If it's your best friends wife or somebody you know then obviously yes. But some random one night stand you met at the bar who has a boyfriend and doesn't divulge that info until the next morning is all on them. 9/23/2013 5:35:33 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ i think that goes without saying
btw, i hope you agree that it doesn't have to be someone you know. if you start a relationship with anybody and/or get physical with them AFTER they have told you they are already in a relationship, would be wrong and cheating. 9/23/2013 5:44:17 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Cheated on once that I confirmed, and twice that I suspected but never confirmed.
I have never cheated on anyone. 9/23/2013 9:18:22 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
been cheated on 3 times, once by a fiancee (she was insane though and I saw it coming...just couldn't resist dat ass)
I've had the option (and still do) for someone to cheat on their significant other with me, but I can't bring myself to take them up on it, knowing how it feels 9/23/2013 11:20:42 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But some random one night stand you met at the bar who has a boyfriend and doesn't divulge that info until the next morning is all on them." |
*wipes brow* For a second there I was worried I'd lose everyone's approval9/23/2013 11:22:26 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've had the option (and still do) for someone to cheat on their significant other with me, but I can't bring myself to take them up on it, knowing how it feels" |
This. Pretty much every time I went out of town for conventions with my former company, I could have easily banged the majority of my married female coworkers from other markets. It's like married females in sales look at out-of-town conventions as a free pass to collect as much strange dick as possible. And the probability increases even more if they are married with kids.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM. Reason : a]9/23/2013 11:29:12 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ That's a bit strange to me... the stereotype is that men are like that, and women are far less likely to cheat. Statistically, that's still true.
So what makes women in sales cheat as much as you claim they do? Is it due to the personality type of women who go into sales? Or for some weird reason women in sales tend to have boring sex lives? 9/23/2013 11:48:43 AM |
Skwinkle burritotomyface 19447 Posts user info edit post |
^ barely
Quote : | "Percent of men who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had 57% Percentage of women who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had 54%" |
http://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/ Source: Associated Press, Journal of Marital and Family Therapy Research Date: 9.8.20139/23/2013 12:03:47 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yea, I know WAY too many women that cheat and openly talk about it.
I'm sure I know plenty of men that cheat, but in my experience, they don't run around telling everyone.
Also, I still don't understand how banging someone with a significant other is cheating. I mean, yea, it's not exactly a great thing to be doing, but you're not dating/married to the significant other so you don't owe them shit.
If you're actively going out and trying to pull married people, that's pretty fucked up, too. But if they come to you and want you to stick it in a few times... LOL
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ] 9/23/2013 12:07:32 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
it is. maybe not quite as bad as cheating on a significant other, but pretty close. 9/23/2013 12:09:42 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
The difference is that dudes get caught, chicks don't
And yes, if you are knowingly fucking a chick that is married/in a relationship, then you are just as guilty as she is......even if you are single.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM. Reason : a] 9/23/2013 12:12:28 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Percent of men who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had 57% Percentage of women who admit to committing infidelity in any relationship they’ve had 54%"" |
Damn, times have changed. Last time I looked up stats for the US, it was like about half for men, and a third for women.
So, either the women have become a lot more voracious while the men are the same as a decade ago OR Women have always been as unfaithful but were less likely to confess even in confidential surveys a decade ago9/23/2013 12:27:17 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think lying/being a shitty person has anything to do with gender. 9/23/2013 12:33:43 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Or option 3...That the surveys you've read cherry picked the data to make it match their assertion.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM. Reason : l] 9/23/2013 12:35:29 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Damn, times have changed. Last time I looked up stats for the US, it was like about half for men, and a third for women. " |
Women cheat just as much, if not more, than men. They just lie about it (and are better at lying). And they are sneaky as fuck and smarter about it. Men are fucking stupid when they cheat.9/23/2013 12:39:09 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I don't know, but they were the widely accepted numbers at that time, about a decade ago.
^^^ Sure it does... Ok, not in this domain, but look at the percentages of men criminals versus women criminals (killers, robbers, muggers, gangsters, drug traffickers, etc). But I guess you are not talking about criminal acts, just general shittiness. In that case, point taken I guess (for Americans and Europeans only... things are very different in Asia, Africa, and I am guessing South America, where men are far shittier).
^ interesting.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ] 9/23/2013 12:41:21 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Women cheat just as much, if not more, than men. They just lie about it (and are better at lying). And they are sneaky as fuck and smarter about it. Men are fucking stupid when they cheat." |
This.9/23/2013 12:50:19 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think i have ever been cheated on but i don't think you can ever really know unless you find out your SO did cheat. I've also never cheated but have been tempted. i'll never cheat down and have never been tempted by what i would call cheating up so that's that. 9/23/2013 1:45:40 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
i've never cheated bc i'm not weak-willed or an asshole
haven't been cheated on as far as i know
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM. Reason : .] 9/23/2013 1:59:34 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21954 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Women cheat just as much, if not more, than men. They just lie about it (and are better at lying). And they are sneaky as fuck and smarter about it. Men are fucking stupid when they cheat." |
This.
Women I think are also more prone to long term emotional infidelity than just hooking up.9/23/2013 2:40:05 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
The girl I know definitely cheated on me wanted to do this big valentines day thing
Well turns out she only wanted to do it because the other guy didn't want to - after we did our thing she went and spent the night with him. 9/23/2013 2:44:36 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i'll be honest i cheated in college. but never in a relationship since. I learned the whole "I wouldn't want that to happen to me" lesson after it did once or twice. 9/23/2013 3:19:45 PM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
I've never cheated and (I'd bet a lot of money) never been cheated on
but that's mostly due to a lack of relationships and sex appeal...I've never really had the opportunity to cheat
still, I wouldn't take it, even if I had it...I'm a romantic, and view love and relationships as special, and all that jazz.
(this is probably one of the main reasons WHY I suck at having relationships)
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM. Reason : 3gjoi] 9/23/2013 9:05:20 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
not to disrespect djeternal but i have a comment on the below:
Quote : | "Pretty much every time I went out of town for conventions with my former company, I could have easily banged the majority of my married female coworkers from other markets." |
I have a lot of buddies who for years have traveled and then come back and told me that very thing. Do you know how many of these coworkers they have banged, 0. Some claim it is a moral high ground and some claim the don't shit where they eat but I'd only buy that from a few of them since the rest would fuck a whole in the ground if if looked damp enough.
I've concluded they share these stories for one of two reasons. 1) they really just want to build themselves up and make themselves sound cool to people who will never ever be able to prove otherwise or 2) they actually believe it to be the case but only because their mentality limits married women (especially mothers) who like to drink and hang out with dudes as sluts because otherwise those women should be in the room acting a stones throw away from donna reid.
I'm not saying that women don't cheat on their husbands, there is enough media out there to prove otherwise, but what I am saying is that I don't believe it is as prevalent as the above or what my friends describe because otherwise the story would end, at least occasionally, with "and then we boned"9/23/2013 10:22:36 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Cheated on. 9/23/2013 11:21:24 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^^ those guys sound like a bunch of beta fucks
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ] 9/23/2013 11:22:24 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
ive been on every side of this spectrum.
cheated on girls, dated more than one at a time, fuck buddies on the side of relationships, been cheated on, had a girl basically have a relationship on the side on me, had tons of girls with boyfriends (raleigh girls are some of the worst for this), dated/hooked up with married girls, etc.
The game is the game.
I did have a faithful relationship for several years recently though and i'd be willing to try it again i think. We'll see.
[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 11:31 PM. Reason : a] 9/23/2013 11:30:22 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not saying that women don't cheat on their husbands, there is enough media out there to prove otherwise, but what I am saying is that I don't believe it is as prevalent as the above or what my friends describe because otherwise the story would end, at least occasionally, with "and then we boned"" |
I know plenty of my former coworkers that boned married women at out-of-town conventions. The sad part is, they are also married. So I'm not just limiting my "out-of-town convention theory" to married women, just making the point that married women are just as likely to cheat (if not more likely) as men given the opportunity to get away with it. Again verifying my point that women cheat just as much as men, they are just smarter about it and do it in such a way that they can never get caught.
[Edited on September 24, 2013 at 9:17 AM. Reason : a]9/24/2013 9:16:22 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i have a few buddies who work in Nascar for various teams travelling each week for the races. some of the stories i hear about the cheating that goes on by people they work with is almost unbelievable. some guys have a full on significant others and real long term relationships in various cities while others just troll for whatever is posted up at the hotel bar on a nightly basis. all of this while supporting a wife and multiple kids at home. 9/24/2013 9:41:03 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^ I had a really good friend in H.S. whose Dad was like that. He traveled a lot for his job and he had a different girlfriend in almost every city he traveled to. He even set up a separate AOL account so he could keep in contact with them without his wife finding out.
Long story short, he accidentally kept the secret AOL account logged in one night and his wife saw it the next morning. Needless to say, they're now divorced. 9/24/2013 9:45:56 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I fear that I would cheat if I were in a job like that. I think that 90% of cheating is putting yourself in the opportunity to cheat. That could be anything from ordering that extra drink at happy hour with the hot co-worker to sliding the wedding band off on a business trip. One of the biggest decisions I made after becoming engaged was to stop bartending on the weekends. Although we had dated for two years while I was still behind the bar and I remained faithful...the opportunities were always there and there were times that I contemplated it. Removing all of those opportunities makes not-cheating a lot easier.
I love women and I like to flirt. Throw alcohol and late night low-morals into the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. I do my best to avoid not getting hammered without my significant other. And if she's not there, I try to stay with my male buddies (I've already slept with most of my female friends, so hanging out with them is not the best idea) or go home early.
Reading all of that makes it sound like I have a problem, but I've only cheated once and it was in a dying relationship where we had already broken up and gotten back together several times. It doesn't justify it and I still feel bad about it, but I wouldn't consider myself a cheater. But I am a man and have temptations. Best course of action, IMO, is to remove as many of those temptations as possible. 9/24/2013 10:02:43 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
I feel guilty when I kill a bug so I can't imagine how guilty I'd feel if I cheated on my wife. Also, I wouldn't want to give up half of my shit if we ever got divorced. 9/24/2013 10:24:02 AM |
AntiMnifesto All American 1870 Posts user info edit post |
Been cheated on, I'm sure. I didn't stick around to find out.
Cheated? Nope. Had some awkward moments where I had to announce to several new guy and (girl) friends that I had a boyfriend and couldn't go on some dates, but the friendships kept going after that. Most guy friends are married or in relationships, and I'm friends with their ladies. I think that's key. 9/24/2013 2:41:37 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you guys! My fiance is flying out of town tomorrow for business in Boston, you guys suck!
To be fair, I have always made it clear that cheating is one of the few automatic deal breakers for me plus she loves me so I aint too worried haha. 9/24/2013 3:19:15 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "To be fair, I have always made it clear that cheating is one of the few automatic deal breakers for me plus she loves me so I aint too worried haha." |
You poor, naive son of a bitch.9/24/2013 3:26:39 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^ "business", that's what she said.
Quote : | "Women cheat just as much, if not more, than men. They just lie about it (and are better at lying). And they are sneaky as fuck and smarter about it" |
9/24/2013 4:18:13 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So what makes women in sales cheat as much as you claim they do? Is it due to the personality type of women who go into sales? Or for some weird reason women in sales tend to have boring sex lives?" |
If this wasn't The Lounge there may never have been a better candidate for responding with the "inside sales" meme.9/24/2013 4:25:20 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Literally inside!
Deep sales 9/24/2013 4:29:23 PM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
Cheated: I was a total asshole when I was in my early 20's. I was in a long distance relationship and basically, just slept around even though I told her I loved her and such. I think it stemmed from a lack of self-esteme in combination with how hard it was to get caught. I really had a problem and it really hurt my Sig Other.
I'm sure I've been cheated on (though probably not by the Sig Other mentioned above), but I never asked for details; if I felt the relationship was going that way I just broke it off. 9/24/2013 5:43:08 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Consider this furthering the human element and don't beat the messenger.
There are a ton of reasons people cheat. A girl cheating on you doesn't mean she doesn't want to be with you. A guy cheating on you doesn't mean he doesn't love you. Guys and girls cheat for various reasons but it's pretty easily summed up by:
Girls pick a guy they want to be with for financial security, emotional needs, and comfort.
Every guy has dated a girl that was "way out of his league" in attractiveness. And a lot of them marry or at least date them out of sheer panic that they will never "do better". Trust me, she never thought you were hot. And if you aren't routinely banging her then this description is you. She was attracted to your money (or potential for it), personality, and/or willingness to be a huge pussy and cater to her needs. IF you're the "huge pussy" doing her laundry, vacuuming, paying for things, etc then part of the deal is you getting 95% of the time spent together watching reality tv while the other guy only gets the sex.
It's not a great arrangement. Trust me, as bad as it feels to text/call your girlfriend or wife constantly and ask her when she'll be home, it's equally annoying for the guy fucking her. No one likes to blow a load while her phone vibrates with your name on it. No one enjoys listening to her lie to you on the phone about what she's doing and who she's with (her girlfriend who is always willing to cover for her) while she's with them. As the guy banging a married/dating/whatever they want to call it girl all this does is sully future long term relationships for us also. It's even more weird if we're "friends" with you .
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Guys pick a girl they want to be with for how sexually attractive they are, how adequate they are sexually, and how well they perform the duties we decide are dealbreakers for us to do if we're going to succumb to a relationship.
Every guy has a dated a girl that wasn't that "hot" but was a nympho, sucked their dick differently than the last girl did, or was really good at always cleaning their place.
Most guys appreciate coming home to a girl who is always there. That's really all most guys care about. They want a woman who will always be home when they get home. Because most guys have co-dependent relationships with their girlfriend/wives and can't stand the thought of being alone. This is why when guys & girls break up most girls immediately go their own way while guys sulk, stalk, and/or go temporarily (or permanently) crazy over break-ups.
Okay, so guys love "their" girl and are total fucking psychos about anyone ever being with "their" girl besides them.
Why are they willing to cheat?
Guys equate banging a random female with success. It is absolute confirmation that he is either a good looking, successful, or some combination of the two guy. Because girls won't fuck a guy for no reason like guys will fuck a girl.
A girl can't get any type of confirmation from a guy just by getting him to fuck her. It means absolutely nothing to anyone but her and the guys currently pursuing her. He may never look her in the eye, spit at the foot of her bed when he leaves, etc. But girls are incapable of those kind of interactions because the second they allow a guy to fuck them, the guy becomes someone they either need to accept has something over them or deny they ever had sex with.
Okay so now we got that out of the way. Cheating will always be rampant because of the way girls are wired. They are all willing to date down. I.e. Every guy can date/marry a girl that is much hotter than them. All single guys are willing to fuck down. I.e. Every single guy will fuck a girl they wouldn't date. So there is a constant battle out there where a guy hotter than you is telling your girlfriend/wife that is less attractive than them but more attractive than you "I'll fuck you. And let you go home to him to watch Dancing with the Stars later".
A lot girls are dating guys that:
a) are dorks b) can't fuck c) are people they were attracted to when they decided to start dating them but since then they've changed their mind as to "what they really want" and now they need to "find themselves". d) are ignoring them because they can't stand her anymore but they havent broken up with her because they are lazy and it's easier to get attention from other girls while they have a girlfriend e) all of the above
Cheating is rampant. Own it. Accept it. In all honesty, if you can look your girl in the eye and know you're happy with her. And you love being on the couch with her on a Tuesday night alone. She's probably the one for you. The guy who she fucked during lunch or at 5:30 is probably much more lonely than you are in all honesty.
For guys?
Here's what causes cheating:
Alcohol, girls who say yes, alcohol, peer pressure, alcohol, illicit drugs, alcohol, porn, alcohol, curiosity, alcohol, etc etc etc.
Bottom line. If a guy meets a girl who is attractive and he hasn't fucked her yet, he's going to want to know what it's like to fuck her. Sometimes it's good enough to ask a friend who has fucked her "hey was she good" and sometimes it's not.
Imagine eating Frosted Flakes every morning and being "happy" and "content". But someone else is raving about the Cinnamon Toast Crunch. You'd wanna know too.
The reason most couples are "happy" and "committed" is because they decided coming home and sitting on the couch after work was better than doing anything. If that's you great, congratulations. You've selected a lifestyle that fits your personality and ambitions. But a lot of people are just not wired that way... people who go out, travel for a living, etc would ever settle down with a fat partner, ever. They may agree to date, marry, or have children with them but they would never only have sex with them... In fact over 50% of those surveyed agree. It's perfectly fine to have a life companion but fuck other people who you're more sexually attracted to. If you don't agree, that's fine and you're in the 46% (lol, yeah right) of people who don't cheat.
There are millions of couples out there who are "married", "dating", etc who are perfectly happy together. Some have a good home life, children, etc. For whatever reason they both gain from coming home to each other.
In the end, if you're truly happy watching DVR together who cares who she's catching a nut from? 9/25/2013 2:31:45 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
My wife and I don't cheat, but oddly we're both fit, active, travel (less now with kids, but we're going on a trip this weekend in fact). Maybe it's just because we love each other, have great sex, and we're not scumbags. 9/25/2013 9:00:24 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously face's post isn't all inclusive, but its fairly accurate. When you think that pretty much half of first marriages end in divorce and you know that the other half can't be 100% happy...then you know a majority of marriages have issues and a lot of those issues can be attributed to cheating or at least the desire to cheat is a factor.
^ It's good that you have a healthy marriage and hopefully mine will be similar, but it's naïve to think that its not the norm...IMO. 9/25/2013 9:07:46 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
I never said being scumbags wasn't the norm. 9/25/2013 9:29:01 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I watched about 15 minutes of this on tv last night
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sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
I think face hit it pretty spot on. A couple things that have kept me from cheating are one, I’ll never cheat down. I’m very attracted to my wife…I think she’s pretty smokin’ hot and I haven’t been in a situation where a hotter girl was coming on to me. Honestly, the probability of that happening is pretty low. We stay very active sexually. She’s my best sex ever and she says likewise about me. SO we keep each other satisfied for now. Secondly, we’ve been open from the beginning and decided that if either of us got the urge to start fucking other people that we would be open about it and talk about ways to maintain satisfaction in our marriage.. The solution may including having an open marriage, swinging, bringing someone else into the bedroom etc. For us the part that hurts about the cheating is not the sex, it’s the dishonesty and loss of trust. 9/25/2013 10:15:46 AM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
none of the reasons face posted have any mitigating value to me
if you cheat on me, you don't respect me 9/25/2013 10:23:35 AM |