Seriously. if you eat them and they are undercooked you will pay the ultimate gastrointestinal price. (both ends)

9/23/2013 10:45:46 AM

OMG, so glad you made this thread yo. I had no idea, and I am the kinda idiot who would eat raw beans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaseolus_vulgaris#Toxicity

9/23/2013 10:50:27 AM

NEVER eat sprouted kidney beans. All other legumes are ok afaik.

9/23/2013 10:51:41 AM

that's why I only use the canned, "fully cooked" red kidney beans for my chili.


that and I'm lazy

9/23/2013 10:59:33 AM

fucking beans, how do they work?

9/23/2013 11:09:48 AM

I use a pressure cooker and then freeze and use later. Basically the same as canned beans.

9/23/2013 11:29:58 AM

I just open cans too. It's so much easier than soaking/cooking at home. $.89 each for the non-organic 365 brand stuff at Whole Foods. I usually eat about ~8-9 cans a week and have way less GI issues than I did back when I was eating grains all the time instead of beans all the time.

[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM. Reason : l]

9/23/2013 12:31:17 PM

sounds like why cashew nuts are always sold shelled and roasted

9/23/2013 12:36:29 PM

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"All other legumes are ok afaik."

no, you shouldn't eat them if they are sprouted

9/23/2013 12:38:21 PM

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"I usually eat about ~8-9 cans a week"

Seems like a lot...why so many? Are you a vegetarian?

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"Basically the same as canned beans."

minus the BPA in the can liner

9/23/2013 12:53:09 PM

Don't they sell them in Tetra Pak also? I always get the Tetra Pak to avoid the BPA.

8 to 9 cans a week... damn you must be creating fartornados everywhere

Lewisje, cashews are not always sold roasted... haven't you had/seen raw cashews?

Dtownral, thanks, I will confirm it first though, just to be sure.

9/23/2013 1:08:10 PM

Tetra Pak? Is that something sold at Whole Foods or something?

9/23/2013 2:43:19 PM

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"Seems like a lot...why so many? Are you a vegetarian?"

I just found that my body runs better off them than other sources of carbs (potatos, grains, rice, corn, etc.) High fiber, low glycemic index...I get to eat meals that are really large in volume and I never get hungry for snack type foods in between meals when I'm eating beans for my carbs.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I rarely eat more than one serving of meat per day. I eat eggs/beans/greens for breakfast and meat/beans/greens for dinner 4-6 days per week. The variance comes from eating food cooked by friends/family, going out to eat with friends/family, and the occasional takeout plate when I really can't work in a proper home cooked meal. I don't roll up to dinner with friends and expect them to cook specially for me and it's kind of nice to schange it up a bit, so I'm pretty happy to go along with whatever other people are offering me when I don't have to cook it.

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"8 to 9 cans a week... damn you must be creating fartornados everywhere"

It's barely over 1 can per day and that's split between 2-3 meals. I mix it up with black beans, pinto beans, and dark red kidney beans. I also have an occasional can of lima beans or black eyed peas. I seriously have way less problems with gas or other GI issues on this type of diet than I did when I was eating a more traditional diet. Grease, dairy, and grains can tear my stomach up. Every month or two I eat too much pizza and it always ends badly. It's like the perfect storm for wrecking my stomach.

[Edited on September 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM. Reason : l]

9/23/2013 2:50:42 PM

Red beans are an absolute staple down here in New Orleans. Wiki says that you have to boil them for 10 minutes to break down the toxin. Considering that red beans take at least 2-3hrs to cook properly, I just can't see toxicity ever being a problem.

I mean...I'll eat fried peanuts in the hull or stringy raw asparagus no problem. When I lived in Charleston, we used to eat shrimp with the shell on, but you have to be a FUCKING MANIMAL to eat some 10 minute red beans. You would definitely know you were doing something wrong when your teeth hit the first bean. I can't imagine how much floss you would need afterwards.

That said, Blue Runner beans are the shit.


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9/23/2013 11:41:32 PM

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"no, you shouldn't eat them if they are sprouted"

shouldn't eat sprouted legumes, eh?

9/23/2013 11:51:06 PM

9/24/2013 8:40:00 AM

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"shouldn't eat sprouted legumes, eh?"

yeah.

if you want to, make sure to cook them well.

9/24/2013 8:43:48 AM

9/24/2013 9:04:56 AM

don't eat too many

9/24/2013 9:07:05 AM

I'd actually never heard this...and I love eating beans and bean sprout on my salads, etc.

Can I really eat too many bean sprouts to the point that it hurts me?

9/24/2013 9:40:42 AM

just make sure you cook your bean sprouts and alfalfa sprouts thoroughly before eating them

9/24/2013 9:49:14 AM

just because you are only eating a tiny amount of legume, doesn't mean it isn't toxic

(lectins, cyanogene glycoses, fogopyrin, canavanine, etc...)

[Edited on September 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM. Reason : spelling?]

9/24/2013 9:51:47 AM

I suppose I'm just really dense...and honestly am not trolling here.

I've eaten tons of "raw" beansprouts on sandwiches and salads and never had an issue.

I think you're more at risk of salmonella than "toxins" when eating these raw?

^I see. So you just have to eat a metric fuckton to get sick. Who the fuck does that?

[Edited on September 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM. Reason : .]

9/24/2013 9:54:47 AM

well the guy posted sprouts, which would probably be hard to eat too much, but its not hard to eat too much of other legumes

9/24/2013 10:35:03 AM

Got Damn it! Thanks Obama!

9/24/2013 11:44:34 AM

Legumes in general can be really bad for the human body. They have to be soaked and cooked in order to reduce their lectin and phytate content. Even when you prepare legumes these properties can still be present.
Lectins are linked to many auto-immune diseases and phytates block mineral absorption.

Check it out:
http://wellnessmama.com/2029/spill-the-beans-are-they-healthy-or-not/

9/24/2013 12:04:55 PM

its generally less of an issue in the US because the kinds of potatos that we grow, but its still a good idea to avoid sprouted ones unless you want an upset stomach.

9/24/2013 12:11:30 PM

wellnessmama.com -- the first place I go for credible* info on nutrition





*completely sourced by wikipedia

9/24/2013 12:14:50 PM

Eat something that only vaguely resembles a bean?

9/24/2013 12:24:29 PM

Bahaha...yeah you're right. Well take it or leave it. I've found some useful stuff on her site.

9/24/2013 12:24:34 PM

It is not uncommon knowledge that raw beans and beans not cooked fully contain various toxic chemicals and chemicals that bind to minerals preventing their absorption.

Solution? Eat properly cooked beans... just stick to natural canned beans packed in water, not a difficult solution.

9/24/2013 12:28:36 PM

canned beans suffer nutritionally, as well as contain a lot of sodium.

9/24/2013 12:45:16 PM

^ This statement is true across the board for all brands and all products.

9/24/2013 12:51:32 PM

How do they 'suffer'? Qualify and quantify your statement.

As for sodium, rinse them well, where is the problem? And anyway, they don't contain any more salt than what you would add on your own. Or do you add no salt to your food. If you are eating a healthy natural diet most of the time, there is absolutely no problem with the amount of salt you would get from canned beans, especially after rinsing them.

9/24/2013 1:51:25 PM

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/dried-beans-vs-canned-beans-nutritional-values-3026.html

http://onceamonthmeals.com/get-real-dry-beans-vs-canned-and-the-winner-is/

9/24/2013 2:03:24 PM

The differences in nutrition are negligible... anybody who worries over such minuscule differences must be eating 100% clean and look like the kind of people you see at fitness and bodybuilding conventions. Otherwise, they are fussing over something really insignificant and would do well to cut out the real junk and bad habits from their diet and life.

Btw, from the second link, among the disadvantages listed for fresh beans:

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"More work (slighty)"

So soaking beans for half a day, rinsing several times pre- and post-soak, and then cooking for a couple of hours, is SLIGHTLY more work than opening a can?

Get that shit outta here.

9/24/2013 2:14:56 PM

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"Tetra Pak? Is that something sold at Whole Foods or something?"

I don't know. Where I live we have this

http://www.awalqatfa.com/index.php

.

Apparently only a few countries have these Tetra ReCart packs by Tetra Pak.

[Edited on September 24, 2013 at 6:14 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2013 6:12:59 PM

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"So soaking beans for half a day, rinsing several times pre- and post-soak, and then cooking for a couple of hours, is SLIGHTLY more work than opening a can? Get that shit outta here."

seriously? it takes less than 60 seconds TOTAL to soak beans and change the water. Then you just cook them which might take another 60 seconds out of your actual kitchen time.

9/24/2013 6:52:11 PM

And if you cook a pound of dry beans at a time you get several cans' worth of beans out of it. If you're splitting hairs, the rinsing of the canned ones takes longer than the rinsing of the dried.

9/24/2013 7:01:13 PM

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"fucking beans, how do they work?"

Mexican Fucking Beans?

9/24/2013 7:27:53 PM