Pretty racist, right?

10/18/2013 6:28:16 PM

maybe if you're a potato

10/18/2013 6:54:03 PM

It only racist to the white guilt people like banjoman

10/18/2013 6:57:04 PM

no fucks are given

10/18/2013 6:57:35 PM

Im' more offended by the misuse of apostrophe's

10/18/2013 7:09:17 PM

My initial reaction is that it's a privately owned team, and they can do what they want...but that what they should do is to abide by the consensus of what American Indians what (if there is any semblance of a consensus).

If it bothers them, then the considerate thing to do would be to change it. If it doesn't bother them, then it's a white-guilt pantywaist liberal solution in search of a problem.

10/18/2013 7:27:00 PM

About a year ago, outside of The Greene Turtle after watching a UFC fight, I found myself in a conversation with a Native American about the name "Redskins". It was more than cordial, and a completely respectful discussion.... But it was clear the guy was venting to me. I saw that he was clearly venting to me because of his stance in the discussion where he was trying his hardest to convince me, someone that made it clear that I agreed with him, that the term was racist.

Generally, I try to shy away from gross generalizations based on one specific life event. But yes...that event more than convinced me that a significant number of Native Americans find the term pretty offensive.

Also, I think his name was George or some shit. He was visiting from New Mexico.

10/18/2013 7:44:24 PM

It seems pretty racist to me.

10/18/2013 7:46:16 PM

Quote :

"@GSElevator: #1: What's more offensive, the name 'Redskins', or a sport where a few rich white landowners have a draft to buy players to work the field?"

10/18/2013 7:53:57 PM

Quote :

"Indian Americans are citizens of the United States of Indian ancestry and comprise about 3.18 million people, or about 1.0% of the U.S. "

The name has been Redskins since 1933. 80 years and now there's a issue.

10/18/2013 8:01:13 PM

Goodnight, sweet prince.

10/18/2013 8:14:11 PM

^^ to be fair, this year is not the first time people have found the name offensive. Sure the push back has gained more traction than ever before. But it's not the first time people spoken out against the name.

10/18/2013 9:01:28 PM

Don't care, move along. We've got bigger fish to fry.

10/18/2013 9:03:24 PM

Love the Skins. No problem with the name.

10/18/2013 9:37:07 PM

I want them to change their name to the DC Redskins

10/19/2013 1:26:06 AM

hey I remember this conversation from like20 years ago.

i remember getting a kick out of someone proposing they call them the Washington Blackskins

or maybe rename the Jets to the New York Jews

[Edited on October 19, 2013 at 1:36 AM. Reason : af]

10/19/2013 1:35:48 AM

I think people don't give a shit about the Native Americans.

No way the Washington Kykes would ever be a team that lasted 80 years.

With that being said I'm fine with the Braves and Indians.

[Edited on October 19, 2013 at 1:40 AM. Reason : The Indians logo is a little much. ]

10/19/2013 1:39:41 AM

I'm offended by the Tar Heels

10/19/2013 2:15:45 AM

More like the Maryland Redskins. Amirite?

10/19/2013 7:52:00 AM

This is kind of a sad conversation.

[Edited on October 19, 2013 at 8:08 AM. Reason : H]

10/19/2013 8:06:45 AM

Reservations, casinos and fire water aren't enough, we've gotta change the names of our sports teams too? Don't we, as in the American people, already give what's left of the Native Americans a shitload of guilt money every year as is? I feel like if they as a collective whole take the bribe money, they can't bitch about anything.

And yeah, they don't even play in Washington. They practice in Virginia and play in Maryland.

10/19/2013 8:07:38 AM

I think they should probably change it. I'd like to see it stay Indian related though.


I'd like to get behind changing it but can you imagine the bitching and moaning? It would last for years, be the exact same tired talking point blah blah blah. It's enough to make me say not worth it.

10/19/2013 8:08:25 AM

White men are incredibly loud complainers. It's all we got.

10/19/2013 8:17:47 AM

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9376010/rename-washington-redskins

Redskins got their name from an owner who was a huge racist

http://www.thepeoplespaths.net/articles/redskin.htm

Quote :

" "The word Redskin was taught to me at a very young age, and this is the meaning it has for me. "I am a Native American. I grew up on an Indian reservation. As a child, the United States Government and the Catholic Church came into our homes, took us away from our families, and forced us into Catholic boarding schools. There was no choice to be had in this matter, you had to go. The Catholic Church with the blessings of the United States Government took it upon themselves to determine that we were savages, and needed to be transformed to fit into their society. "When my hair was cut short by the priests, I was called a "redskin" and a savage. When I spoke my native tongue, I was beaten and called "redskin". When I tried to follow the spiritual path of my people, I was again beaten and called a "redskin". I was told by them to turn my back on the ways of my people, or I would forever be nothing but a dirty "redskin". "The only way "redskin" was ever used towards my people and myself was in a derogatory manner. It was never, ever, used in a show of respect or kindness. It was only used to let you know that you were dirty and no good, and to this day still is. "A long time ago, a group of people who had no knowledge of these facts, and who put no thought into what "redskin" actually meant chose to use this word for their mascot. A new group of people, now being confronted about it, have somehow decided it is their decision to change the meaning of this word to fit their purposes and agendas, but again have put no thought into its true meaning or what this word means to Native Americans." "

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-redskins-name-only-offensive-if-you-think-a,33449/

Quote :

"A new study published Monday by the University of New Mexico confirmed that the name of the Washington Redskins is only offensive if you take any amount of time whatsoever to think about its actual meaning. “When you hear or say ‘Redskins’ in the abstract, it’s completely harmless, but we’ve discovered that if you briefly pause to remember it’s a racial slur for an indigenous group wiped out by genocide over the course of a few centuries, then, yeah, it’s awful,” said lead researcher Lawrence Wagner, adding that only if you allow the NFL franchise’s name to register in your mind does it evoke the thought of human beings devastated by the forced removal from tribal lands, intentional exposure to smallpox, and countless massacres. “It has the potential to come across as a degrading relic of an ethnocentric mentality responsible for the destruction of an entire people and their culture, but that’s only if you take a couple seconds to recognize it as something beyond a string of letters.” Wagner recommended that the NFL franchise should change their name to something more appropriate and historically accurate, such as the Washington Racist Fucks."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redskin

Quote :

"Definition of REDSKIN usually offensive : american indian "

10/19/2013 10:32:25 AM

Yep, every time something is offensive to someone else we've gotta make changes. Next thing you know PETA will be petitioning the NFL to change all the team names who have animals as mascots, because you know, it's degrading to animals and offensive to animal lovers. And we'll have to do it b/c heaven forbid someone in this world is offended by anything ever.

10/19/2013 10:35:38 AM

usually

10/19/2013 10:37:23 AM

Quote :

"The name has been Redskins since 1933. 80 years and now there's a issue."

I know! I wonder why they werent protesting this name in 1933!!

Quote :

"Reservations, casinos and fire water aren't enough, we've gotta change the names of our sports teams too? Don't we, as in the American people, already give what's left of the Native Americans a shitload of guilt money every year as is? I feel like if they as a collective whole take the bribe money, they can't bitch about anything"

I know right, its just genocide, why cant they get over it already???

Quote :

"Yep, every time something is offensive to someone else we've gotta make changes"

"I'M SO MAD THAT PEOPLE GET UPSET OVER RACISM!!"

10/19/2013 10:43:00 AM

Quote :

"For a time after the Civil War, the name Tar Heel was derogatory. In Congress on Feb. 10th, 1875, a black representative from South Carolina had kind words for many whites which he described as "noble hearted, generous hearted people." Others he spoke of as "the class of men thrown up by the war, that rude class of men, I mean the tar heels and the sand hillers and the dirt eaters of the South-it is with that class that we have all our trouble." "

somebody start a petition on whitehouse.gov

10/19/2013 10:44:09 AM

tar heels are run and supported by mostly white people

dumb arguments are dumb

10/19/2013 10:46:38 AM

So does that make us sand hillers or dirt eaters?

10/19/2013 10:46:51 AM

^^the sports teams are run and supported by mostly white people?

10/19/2013 10:48:46 AM

you are saying tar heels is derogatory towards white people, well white people support UNC and run UNC and are ok with it.

If Native Americans were the owners and supporters of the Redskins and they made no effort to change the name, your argument would have merit.

10/19/2013 10:53:14 AM

most of the people I've seen protesting the Redskins name are white people / non-Native Americans

and by most i mean over 99%

so if you're saying that if a few people find it offensive it should be changed, then fine

i find the word Tar Heel to be offensive, and think those baby blue faggots should change their name to the Sheep

[Edited on October 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM. Reason : .]

10/19/2013 10:57:16 AM

of course its mostly white people protesting, there arent that many native americans in the country!

The question is, do the majority of native americans find it offensive.

the question woulld be, in your scenario, do the majority of white people find it offensive.

10/19/2013 11:05:52 AM

But is the question do most Native Americans find it offensive (which I would be generously curious to know)

Or is the question, if some people find it offensive, is that grounds enough that it should be changed

10/19/2013 11:08:37 AM

i think the answer to your 2nd question is no

10/19/2013 11:11:04 AM

"cowboy" is often a derogatory term used towards americans. I for one am APPALLED the NFL allows a team to use such an offensive term as a team name.

10/19/2013 11:13:59 AM

As a direct ancestor of a British solider in the American revolution I am deeply offended by the Patriots nickname.

10/19/2013 11:16:22 AM

Gay, hairy men everywhere are offended by the Bears

10/19/2013 11:17:19 AM

Quote :

"Yep, every time something is offensive to someone else we've gotta make changes. Next thing you know PETA will be petitioning the NFL to change all the team names who have animals as mascots, because you know, it's degrading to animals and offensive to animal lovers. And we'll have to do it b/c heaven forbid someone in this world is offended by anything ever."

10/19/2013 11:19:17 AM

I'm offended you only used 6 eye rolling emoticons. My previous statement deserved way more than 6.

10/19/2013 11:23:09 AM

ASK A REDSKIN

10/19/2013 11:23:38 AM

I guess I've never really understood the argument "well, I'm not offended by it, so you shouldnt be either. You know... Seeing how I determine what you should be offended by".

10/19/2013 11:28:28 AM

I never really understood the argument, you're not offended by it but I think you should be so I'm going to speak out on your behalf

10/19/2013 11:31:17 AM

As a proud Satanist, who loves nothing more than worshipping Lucifer, I always get so butthurt whenever the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim play a baseball game

10/19/2013 11:32:12 AM

Jello Biafra and Mojo Nixon's Mascot Mania

Quote :

"When I was young Saw football games At the great big stadium Could tell the fans From out of town By the clown suits they had on 20,000 red cowboy hats Means cornhuskers to you Mickey Mouse beans With tiger ears Shows you cheer ol' Mizzou Let's not forget the Razorbacks From the U. of Arkansas With plastic pig snouts On their heads Soooooeeeeeeing, "How 'bout them Hawgs?" That's mascot mania I work all week At a job I hate Where everything goes wrong Weekends what I live for To your church I belong I cross the street in San Francisco When a chump comes out of a bar Yelling "Forty-fuckin-Niners, man" With his gold and red jacket on In Cleveland, throwing dog biscuits Shows how much you love them Browns While Bronco fans just hang their heads When the Superbowl comes around Raider jacket dollars Got the White Sox wearin Black Statues of Joe Paterno Sold in gift shops at Penn State That's mascot mania Don't make fun of religious rituals In any place Lord help you if you laugh While they do this with a straight face Outside of the United States It gets even more bizarre In Tokyo they got a baseball team They call the Carp The Salmonbellies are the pride Of New Westminster B.C. C'mon Greg Werkman, what's a Hoosier? And why do they throw chairs? When Sudbury Ontario's Hockey team scores a goal They drag a stuffed wolf Across the ice A fan shot at it once, ya know That's mascot mania Blue Streak Horned Frogs Long Horns Trojans Someone better tell Tipper Gore About the names of these here teams Tar Heals Gamecocks Blue Devils Crimson Tide Real Indians Sick of Redskins And Tomahawk chops It seems to me That to stay mean These names should change with time The New York Muggers Detroit Murders And Chicago Mob Boston Bigots Texas Swindlers And the L.A. Cops Miami Drugs New Jersey Dumps Take on the Denver Smog Seattle Fads New Orleans Hoods Milwaukee Cannibals San Diego Jarheads And the Arizona Drought That's mascot mania Go, Carp, go! Salmonbellies rule! Hit 'em harder Cops! But, a hockey team called The Mighty Ducks? Head explode when Dallas Oswalds Meet Washington Bribes Home team band plays Cop Killer [Ice T & Body Count] When L.A. comes to town Pittsburgh Polluters Houston Drive-Bys Don't stir near the fear When the Florida Abortion Bombers Meet the San Francisco Queers That's mascot mania Anywhere you go The games the same old thing Bet your money on the Bribes They always win"

10/19/2013 11:41:37 AM

What's the problem

10/19/2013 11:45:03 AM

Rashington Wedskins

Problem solved

10/19/2013 12:19:49 PM

Washington Warriors

boom. done.

10/19/2013 12:34:38 PM

Quote :

"The name has been Redskins since 1933. 80 years and now there's a issue."

really?
they called us niggers for 400 years before it was an issue, maybe we aren't entitled to feel bad about that either? the difference is they left us alive to eventually bitch about it, they killed most of the indians.

no shit it's racist.

10/19/2013 12:40:06 PM