jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously for the people without kids and those that aren't trying.
Fuck it, ignore the married people, too.
I imagine that leaves 3 people who don't meet this demographic.
[Edited on October 23, 2013 at 7:28 PM. Reason : ] 10/23/2013 7:27:56 PM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Depends on how rich her parents are. 10/23/2013 7:28:57 PM
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optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Hope you got that obamacare bro. 10/23/2013 7:32:29 PM
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StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
I'm married but I would be super pissed about getting pregnant, personally 10/23/2013 7:32:30 PM
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Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Is this a trifling whore or somebody you could see a future with? 10/23/2013 7:32:35 PM
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NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
I'm married but I would be super pissed about getting my wife pregnant, personally 10/23/2013 7:33:31 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
ha, i wish i got laid enough lately to worry about this problem
[Edited on October 23, 2013 at 7:38 PM. Reason : ] 10/23/2013 7:38:45 PM
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StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^^ mostly because she would've been shacking up with somebody else 
[Edited on October 23, 2013 at 7:40 PM. Reason : l] 10/23/2013 7:39:50 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89882 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't know that StillFuchsia was married. Now I feel like a shitbag for all of the things I said to her the other day.  10/23/2013 7:42:14 PM
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NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35386 Posts user info edit post |
^^even before the procedure i would've been pretty tore up 10/23/2013 7:47:54 PM
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theDuke866 All American 52902 Posts user info edit post |
i almost wrecked my car 10/23/2013 8:47:50 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^ lmao 10/23/2013 8:49:55 PM
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Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |

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mattinthehat All American 573 Posts user info edit post |
Prayers and stairs. 10/25/2013 4:34:37 PM
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NCSUam0s All American Tease 2330 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm married but I would be super pissed about getting pregnant, personally" |
Me too. Kids are not my thing. 10/25/2013 5:16:58 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |

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JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
I guess it would depend on how I felt about the bitch I'd impregnated (I'm single, so this is all hypothetical.) If I didn't love her, I'd probably be like
Please get an abortion. Please, please, please get an abortion. I'll pay, just please, please, please get the goddamned abortion.
If, on the other hand, I loved the woman and could see myself marrying her, I'd feel a bit more responsibility. I'd probably advocate that she have the kid and just deal with it. And in many ways it would be hugely inconvenient and really suck. But I'd accept it.
I'm not sure why it makes a difference whether I love the girl or not...but it does. I guess always I'd be willing to accept some responsibility towards my child and to make certain sacrifices on his behalf. But if his existence required me to marry/keep in contact with a woman whom I wanted to ditch, I'd think, "Sorry, little man, but you're asking too much." I'd be unwilling to outright ruin my own life for his sake. If I was going to accept the extra baggage of a child, I'd need the compensation of a happy marriage.
That being said, if I had no desire to marry the woman, and she wanted to keep the child, I'd be really, really, really pissed.] 10/27/2013 1:56:30 AM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Random tangent - I know a guy that is such a love sick piece of shit (he's always falling for women that barely acknowledge his existence and he thinks they're dating. Yea, it's fucking creepy.) he offered to raise some random chicks kid.
Later, when he grudgingly realized she didn't want anything to do with him, he told everyone they had broken up as if they had ever dated. Hilarious shit. He spent tons of money on her and even paid for her to go to vegas, LOLOLOLOL.
[Edited on October 27, 2013 at 2:03 AM. Reason : ] 10/27/2013 2:01:01 AM
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ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |

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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Sounds like a case of the "This girl... she means everything to me..."
jkjk 10/27/2013 3:30:59 AM
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bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be pissed. $800 for an iud, I better be kid free for 3 more years. I'd probably keep it though. Shhhhh, don't tell Peter.  10/27/2013 11:17:55 AM
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ncstateccc All American 2856 Posts user info edit post |

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TKE-Teg All American 43429 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess it would depend on how I felt about the bitch I'd impregnated (I'm single, so this is all hypothetical.) If I didn't love her, I'd probably be like
Please get an abortion. Please, please, please get an abortion. I'll pay, just please, please, please get the goddamned abortion." |
Pretty much this. But then you have to look out for the girls that don't believe in abortions  10/28/2013 9:02:23 AM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^Well, maybe
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html 10/28/2013 1:52:54 PM
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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
once your sperm leaves your dick, you don't get any say. why bother imagining preferences? 10/28/2013 2:13:22 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^ you get no say but you definitely get to give input. if the dude says "yeah i really don't want a kid right now", it's something to be taken into consideration, among other things 10/28/2013 3:23:02 PM
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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Stating that you have no interest in acting like a father and letting that be the end of it is a far cry from suggesting, begging and potentially harassing a woman to get an abortion.
Quote : | "Please get an abortion. Please, please, please get an abortion. I'll pay, just please, please, please get the goddamned abortion."" |
Trying to influence someone to change their position is a symptom of lack of respect for their ability (or right) to make that decision. Which I view as problematic in the context of consensual sex and prior knowledge of what it takes to make a baby.
If you don't wish to impregnate a female, use a fucking rubber, don't be drunk and none of this bullshit withdrawal method stuff with women you don't care to reproduce with. It's really that simple. 'Even if she is on the pill'. (protip- asking that question during sex doesn't count!) One could even abstain from fucking women one didn't like enough to gracefully bear the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Which should be announcing your lack of participation and preparing your finances for paying child support or an abortion, if she asks- without having you so kindly 'suggest' it. 10/28/2013 3:53:02 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
If she can have the baby without your input, you can leave the country without hers  10/28/2013 4:09:37 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that is an insanely one-sided diatribe 10/28/2013 4:12:06 PM
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TKE-Teg All American 43429 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you don't wish to impregnate a female, use a fucking rubber, don't be drunk and none of this bullshit withdrawal method stuff with women you don't care to reproduce with. It's really that simple. 'Even if she is on the pill'. (protip- asking that question during sex doesn't count!) One could even abstain from fucking women one didn't like enough to gracefully bear the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Which should be announcing your lack of participation and preparing your finances for paying child support or an abortion, if she asks- without having you so kindly 'suggest' it." |
Yeah, nevermind all the women out there that tell you they're on the pill and to not worry about using a rubber, or even specifically say they don't want you using a rubber.
All high and mighty here for something that is grossly unfair in some respects to men. 10/28/2013 4:13:15 PM
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ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |

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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^did you know you're legally required to file US tax reports if you move abroad, and pay taxes if you earn over 70k a year? I dunno if they can chase you for child support, though.
Poor men, having unprotected sex with women they don't take time to know well enough if they're really using the pill or not. Poor men, not deciding to wear a condom despite their partner's urging to forget it. Poor men, choosing to impregnate a woman and then not having to undergo a medical procedure to resolve it after being urged to do so by people who clearly don't give a fuck about them. Yes, the world is really quite unfair for men and their pricks. 10/28/2013 4:54:28 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
love the brand of feminism where women are apparently incapable of making their own decisions.
Quote : | "Poor men, having unprotected sex with women they don't take time to know well enough if they're really using the pill or not." |
goes both ways. also birth control is not 100% effective.
Quote : | " Poor men, not deciding to wear a condom despite their partner's urging to forget it." |
goes both ways.
Quote : | "Poor men, choosing to impregnate a woman" |
goes both ways. also birth control is not 100% effective.
Quote : | "not having to undergo a medical procedure to resolve it after being urged to do so by people who clearly don't give a fuck about them" |
complete load of bullshit. even if i deeply, deeply cared about someone, i would prefer an abortion to a baby at this point in my life. if the suggestion offends you, perhaps you should realize that life isn't fair, and grown-ups sometimes need to have difficult, grown-up conversations
also, it's not only about the adults. children of single parents are at a significant disadvantage
[Edited on October 28, 2013 at 5:07 PM. Reason : .] 10/28/2013 5:01:34 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did you know you're legally required to file US tax reports if you move abroad, and pay taxes if you earn over 70k a year?" |
Thought it was that way regardless of income.
And they can't chase you Well, I suppose they could, but they wouldn't.
[Edited on October 28, 2013 at 5:03 PM. Reason : ] 10/28/2013 5:03:14 PM
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Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Poor men, having unprotected sex with women they don't take time to know well enough if they're really using the pill or not. Poor men, not deciding to wear a condom despite their partner's urging to forget it. Poor men, choosing to impregnate a woman and then not having to undergo a medical procedure to resolve it after being urged to do so by people who clearly don't give a fuck about them. Yes, the world is really quite unfair for men and their pricks." |
How about women take ownership of their bodies and the babies that they choose to have out of wedlock.
It's 2013. Having sex with a female should not mean you have to cook pancakes in the morning; much less support a child for 18 years. You know what to do if you don't want to get your body pregnant. If you do choose to get pregnant without a husband you know the consequences you are likely to deal with regardless of the laws that are on the books.
I really believe the legalities of making a man fiscally responsible for a child he neither chose nor wants hurts women more than it helps them. This notion that some random dude you slept with is responsible for your child's well being (and therefore your well being since the two are directly related) just doesn't pan out 100% of the time in real life. You can bitch about it all you want, but that's the reality.
[Edited on October 28, 2013 at 5:27 PM. Reason : l] 10/28/2013 5:26:29 PM
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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
hi, grown-up here. no need to infantilize this conversation by referring to ourselves as such.
The fact that YOU prefer an abortion to a baby is immaterial, and it is rude and wrong to put out there unless you're specifically asked.
A woman can decide raise a child on her own and have a happy life regardless of having no fatherly involvement, something to which many children of single moms can attest. She can also decide to terminate the pregnancy without you holding her hand and pushing her into it (or protesting, Smath74), and she can make that decision without you attempting to influence her one way or another.
A woman can comprehend the gravity and potential difficulty in raising a child alone without having her capability undermined and being pushed into medical decisions by parties who may be uniformed as to all the risks in her particular case. The only information that's required to make that decision is whether or not you're interested in being a part in the clump of cell's potential life. Anything beyond that is boorish and immature. And if you can restrain yourself from crossing that line, I think you should be rewarded by not being referred to as a 'deadbeat dad', but rather a 'sperm donor'. 10/28/2013 5:30:19 PM
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theDuke866 All American 52902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " it is rude and wrong to put out there unless you're specifically asked. " |
What? By that and the rest of your post, you have a severely distorted view. Men at least rate input to the situation. 10/28/2013 6:10:14 PM
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ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
this thread got quite entertaining all of a sudden 10/28/2013 6:16:12 PM
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LivinProof78 All American 49373 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This notion that some random dude you slept with is responsible for your child's well being" |
it's his child too 10/28/2013 6:41:06 PM
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jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Swift punch to her stomach
Possible multiple times 10/28/2013 6:46:16 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact that YOU prefer an abortion to a baby is immaterial, and it is rude and wrong to put out there unless you're specifically asked. " |
why? what's your opinion on abortion? seems like it might be relevant.
Quote : | "A woman can decide raise a child on her own and have a happy life regardless of having no fatherly involvement, something to which many children of single moms can attest." |
yes and there are ways for a woman to have a child without involving an unwilling party. of course it is ultimately up to her but it's pretty selfish to not consider the impact on the lives of the potential child and the child's father (and each of your respective families)
i know that if i got a girl pregnant, and she wanted it and i didn't, i would feel pretty much obligated to be a part of the kid's life.
Quote : | "She can also decide to terminate the pregnancy without you holding her hand and pushing her into it (or protesting, Smath74), and she can make that decision without you attempting to influence her one way or another. " |
by this weird definition, any discussion between two people can be seen as "attempting to influence" the other person.
Quote : | "And if you can restrain yourself from crossing that line, I think you should be rewarded by not being referred to as a 'deadbeat dad', but rather a 'sperm donor'." |
the bias you have against men is pretty disgusting honestly 10/28/2013 7:28:29 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114616 Posts user info edit post |
I would be fine with it because I would have done it on purpose
cause females totally love me  10/28/2013 7:59:37 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
oh ya my answer is that i would use my superior manly influence to force her into having an abortion. 10/28/2013 8:06:37 PM
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puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Put out there? More like put in there.
AMIRIGHT 10/28/2013 9:07:35 PM
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MinkaGrl01
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Quote : | "It's 2013. Having sex with a female should not mean you have to cook pancakes in the morning" |
I, for one, am looking forward to my boyfriend's red velvet pancakes this weekend.  10/28/2013 9:22:55 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the bias you have against men is pretty disgusting honestly" |
+1
While I typically disagree with most of what adultswim posts, I agree with pretty much everything he's posted in this thread. 10/28/2013 11:43:22 PM
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Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |
my ex gave me a "congratulations you're going to be a father" card late in our relationship as a gag gift. i almost threw up all over our living room rug. 10/29/2013 8:20:56 AM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "While I typically disagree with most of what adultswim posts" |
aww  10/29/2013 9:06:31 AM
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bottombaby IRL 21958 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, nevermind all the women out there that tell you they're on the pill and to not worry about using a rubber, or even specifically say they don't want you using a rubber." |
Let's try something here. Repeat after me. N - O. NO. No.
Just like women have to take responsibility, men also have to take responsibility. If you don't want a baby or some nasty STD, you just say NO or take responsibility for not saying no. Just like I'm immediately suspect of a guy who doesn't want to use a condom, I'd probably be pretty damned suspicious of a woman who says it's ok not to use a condom unless I'm practically married to the broad. Y'know, if I had a penis. I mean damn, it's pretty easy not to get pregnant and just as easy not to get someone pregnant.
So yeah, if some chick wants to give you the AIDS and take a load of your baby batter, peace out. Go home. Use your hand. There will be other women. You're not that desperate. 10/29/2013 9:07:40 AM
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theDuke866 All American 52902 Posts user info edit post |
Fair enough, but when a woman deliberately lies about properly using BC in order to sucker a guy into accidentally knocking her up, she's the fucked up one. Blaming the dude for that is like blaming a girl for getting raped because she was drunk and dressed slutty. Yeah, she shouldn't have placed herself in a risky situation, but there's only one person responsible for raping her. 10/29/2013 9:31:28 AM
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