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Novicane
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zone 1 boarding

5/16/2014 12:38:26 PM

bronco
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Satisfaction

5/16/2014 12:42:19 PM

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Twin Peaks Season 3

5/16/2014 12:52:04 PM

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lost

5/16/2014 12:54:29 PM

TreeTwista10
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ibtpussy

5/16/2014 12:59:42 PM

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a free day

5/16/2014 1:02:12 PM

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leg room

5/16/2014 1:02:29 PM

slappy1
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"zone 1 boarding"


unless you're in first class and wanting to load up on free booze, who the F wants to get on the plane early? I make a concerted effort every single time I fly (unless I am in first class) to be the VERY last person on the plane. this also allows me to pick my seat if there happen to be better ones available.


*the caveat here would be if you're carrying on a larger bag and they fill up overhead space, forcing you to check it to your destination, and you're worried about it getting lost.

5/16/2014 1:22:05 PM

synapse
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^ that sounds like a great way to get sandwiched between the two biggest people on the plane. fun!

5/16/2014 2:16:31 PM

eleusis
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not everyone flies Southwest.

5/16/2014 2:47:55 PM

BigMan157
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dress sharply and be the last on the plane. take an open first class seat. they won't check your ticket

[Edited on May 16, 2014 at 2:59 PM. Reason : or so i've read]

5/16/2014 2:58:59 PM

wdprice3
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^^^assigned seating?

waiting until last == no overhead storage remaining

5/16/2014 3:05:58 PM

Mtan Man214
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Winning lotto tickets. Not just the jackpots, but the break even and small prizes.

5/16/2014 3:12:35 PM

EMCE
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Pussy


I never get any pussy

5/16/2014 3:29:16 PM

zxappeal
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All that the checked baggage surcharges have accomplished is overpacked overhead compartments. Fuck being the last person on the plane. My last flight, I had to put my feet on top of my bag because the goddamn bins were full.

Of course, it was Kenya Airways. Embraer 190. No room.

5/16/2014 4:31:57 PM

skywalkr
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"*the caveat here would be if you're carrying on a larger bag and they fill up overhead space, forcing you to check it to your destination, and you're worried about it getting lost."


This. When you travel for work constantly you do whatever you can to not have to check a bag and then once you reach that level you do whatever you can to not have to put your back anywhere behind where you seat is. Easier just to get status, board early, and not have to worry about it.

5/16/2014 4:37:29 PM

neodata686
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After flying for work for 4-5 months last year I can say boarding 1st, or premier (before zone 1) is the best part of my commute. Not only are you always guaranteed a place to put your bag but you get to get off the plane first. This can often make a difference of 20-30 minutes each segment.

Not only that but you don't have to deal with all the in-frequent flyers. I'm usually in first or economy comfort and you usually know 90% of the time you won't have to deal with a crying baby, kids, or someone who's never been on a plane before.

Sure if you don't have a bag that needs to go in the over head then board right before they close the door if you can time it right. One thing I hate though is standing in line on the plane to sit. I try to avoid lines at all costs. Usually I can get dropped off at the airport by my car service, get through first/premier at security and to my gate in under 15-20 minutes. I'd rather sit right down on the plane and put my headphones on and get back to work or a book then deal with figuring out when the best time to board the plane and avoid a line is.

If you don't get priority boarding you probably haven't commuted Monday - Friday for work before.

[Edited on May 16, 2014 at 5:17 PM. Reason : s]

5/16/2014 5:15:44 PM

zxappeal
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Truth. But when I gotta be on the other side of the world for two weeks, I don't have much option but to check my bag. Though this last bunch of flights, I just knew my bag would get lost/left behind. Miracle of miracles...it made it, even after four legs, two of which were delayed as fuck.

And I only have silver medallion status with Delta...doesn't get me a whole lot of perks.

5/16/2014 5:16:35 PM

neodata686
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"And I only have silver medallion status with Delta...doesn't get me a whole lot of perks."


Even without status you get zone 1 boarding and a free checked bag simply by having the Delta Amex credit card. I've got gold on Delta and there's still two levels above me. The occasional 1st class upgrade is nice but the best is almost always getting the economy plus upgrade.

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"But when I gotta be on the other side of the world for two weeks,"


Doesn't compute...I spent two weeks working in Madrid for work where I had to wear business casual (with a tie) and I fit everything in my suitcase and laptop bag. Your standard roller suitcase will fit in pretty much any larger planes overhead bin. ESPECIALLY if it's an international flight. I almost never see a reason to check a bag anymore if you know how to pack. You just need to buy the right size suitcase and not over pack.

5/16/2014 5:21:26 PM

seedless
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Free monies

5/16/2014 5:51:28 PM

BJCaudill21
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Blowies.. Nigga can't ever catch a nut

5/16/2014 6:09:29 PM

zxappeal
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"Doesn't compute...I spent two weeks working in Madrid for work where I had to wear business casual (with a tie) and I fit everything in my suitcase and laptop bag. Your standard roller suitcase will fit in pretty much any larger planes overhead bin. ESPECIALLY if it's an international flight. I almost never see a reason to check a bag anymore if you know how to pack. You just need to buy the right size suitcase and not over pack."


Compute this:
1. Steel toe boots.
2. heavy work clothing, hardhat, gloves, some tools, etc.
3. I'm not small. 300 lbs, 6ft.
4. I don't overpack; still have to have laundry done on a 2 week trip. Shit gets dirty enough I can't wear it twice before laundering.
5. I have three suitcases, only one of which is small enough to go overhead. That one is good for maybe a week max.

Knowing how to pack is all well and good; it's what keeps me from having to carry a steamer trunk. But my suitcase is not a goddamned clown car. Make your assumptions with more data.

5/16/2014 6:12:45 PM

Netstorm
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lucky

5/16/2014 7:03:48 PM

neodata686
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"Make your assumptions with more data."


I work with consultants from some of the largest consulting firms in the world and I interact with people who travel 75%+ of the time. I haven't met a single one yet who checks a bag even on 2-3 week trips.

That's my "data" or sample population. You have a unique case where you have to bring extra clothes and/or equipment that (I'm making a guess here) probably 95%+ of the business commuters don't have to deal with.

Your standard sized roller suitcase will fit enough clothes for your average business traveler and they won't need to check a bag. That's a pretty safe assumption based upon my experience.

5/16/2014 7:42:12 PM

TreeTwista10
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We never bring luggage, we go shopping when the plane lands

5/16/2014 8:58:03 PM

BigMan157
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true happiness

[Edited on May 16, 2014 at 9:23 PM. Reason : I seem to top out at bemusement ]

5/16/2014 9:22:35 PM

bronco
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Happiness is a fucking myth.

5/16/2014 9:39:29 PM

Smath74
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happiness is internal. fix yourself from within and you will find it.

5/16/2014 10:34:00 PM

eleusis
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"I work with consultants from some of the largest consulting firms in the world and I interact with people who travel 75%+ of the time. I haven't met a single one yet who checks a bag even on 2-3 week trips.
"


I work with tons of consultants, and they all check luggage for long trips. maybe you work with some nasty bastards that wear socks and underwear for days before changing them. I pack one days worth of clothes in my carry-on and then check the rest of my luggage in. I'd much rather do that than have to wear my steel toed boots through security and on the plane, which I usually do on short 2-3 day trips where I'm taking a small bag.

I usually have to check a bag anyway for equipment like laser rangefinders that they won't let through security, I've never had a bag not make it to my destination, although I almost always have the TSA letter inside saying they ransacked my bag.

5/16/2014 10:40:20 PM

synapse
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^^ok dalai lama

5/16/2014 10:41:14 PM

Smath74
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maybe his colleagues aren't the steel toe boot wearing crowd?

^https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlIrI80og8c

[Edited on May 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM. Reason : ]

5/16/2014 10:41:49 PM

neodata686
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"maybe his colleagues aren't the steel toe boot wearing crowd?"


Yeah...

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"I work with tons of consultants, and they all check luggage for long trips."


In what field? I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm in software consulting. We don't exactly wear steel toed boots to presentations.

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" maybe you work with some nasty bastards that wear socks and underwear for days before changing them."


Eh we're partners with the largest consulting firm in the world. These people don't blink an eye dropping 6 grand on a last minute international flight business class and they certainly know how to pack a suitcase that can fit in the overhead.

I'm going to make another assumption here that the number of business travelers that travel with steel toed boots and tools is <<< than the ones that travel in business casual or suits.

I have a pretty large suitcase...something like this:



I can easily carry 1-2 suits, 6-7 changes of clothes, an extra pair of shoes, and work out clothes in it. You can fit some pretty large suitcases in the overhead bins. Sure if I'm on a smaller MD90 or something they'll probably gate check the bag but I get it right when I get off the plane. The majority of my flights are on larger planes and there's always plenty of space. I mean you have an entire suitcase and a backpack you can potentially carry on.

Sure there's edge cases but the majority of people who travel for business don't need to check a bag. It's great that you get to carry your big boots and tools with you when you work but you're not the majority you're a very small minority.

If you'd like to debate the percentage of business commuters that fly with tools and steel toed boots then we might have some research to do...

5/16/2014 10:55:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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Noen is the asshole blocking the aisle while you're trying to get to your seat because he's trying to cram his giant suitcase in the overhead compartment

5/16/2014 11:06:05 PM

neodata686
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Haha. If you do it 3-4 times a week you kind of figure out how to do it quickly. You can kind of pick out the infrequent flyers because they've jammed too much in their suitcase and it won't fit in the overhead.

5/16/2014 11:14:33 PM

eleusis
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I wear business casual and suits along with my steel toed boots and other PPE. I'd wager that most people making 2-3 week trips in the architecture/engineering/construction side of things are like me in that regard, or they've made a conscientious decision to say fuck OSHA and travel light.

Construction and manufacturing are two of the largest sectors of our economy, so it's pretty ignorant of you to assume that most travelers don't fit into the mold of what zxappeal and I are saying.


[Edited on May 16, 2014 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2014 11:25:45 PM

BridgetSPK
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Wait. Neodata is Noen?

Y'all know I don't understand aliases.

5/17/2014 12:29:15 AM

neodata686
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"Construction and manufacturing are two of the largest sectors of our economy, so it's pretty ignorant of you to assume that most travelers don't fit into the mold of what zxappeal and I are saying."


True but I still think banking, consulting, software, etc, etc, etc (sectors that don't require you to bring boots and tools on a plane) are the majority.

Either way it's kind of a silly topic to argue over.

My only point was it's possible to go on a 1-2 week business trip and not check a bag. Sure there's exceptions depending on your occupation. I guess in my experience in my field I don't see a lot of people checking bags.

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"Wait. Neodata is Noen?"


Not quite sure about that one. I thought TreeTwista10 was making an inside joke about Noen I didn't get.

5/17/2014 12:56:41 AM

TreeTwista10
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i meant neodata

i just mixed up my N-Words

5/17/2014 1:11:27 AM

Big4Country
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a six digit yearly income.

5/17/2014 1:13:56 AM

Novicane
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I travel with steel toed boots. Some places you can't get to the server rooms without walking through production, which requires steel toes. These are mine:



they travel well and ok if i need to pack light.

5/17/2014 8:01:14 AM

neodata686
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I like those.

5/17/2014 4:17:29 PM

BigMan157
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I'd shy away from hiring a consultant that treats a small subset of data as completely and totally representative of the whole set, especially when given examples contradicting such

5/17/2014 4:25:11 PM

The Coz
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"Satisfaction"


Winner!

5/17/2014 5:58:56 PM

acraw
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organic chemistry

5/17/2014 6:12:07 PM

neodata686
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^^^I travel frequently with a fair amount of coworkers and partners and I'm pretty sure none of them check a bag. I've never had to wait on anyone to pick up luggage. Just my observations.

My only generalization was:

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"Your standard sized roller suitcase will fit enough clothes for your average business traveler and they won't need to check a bag. That's a pretty safe assumption based upon my experience."


And I said based upon my experience. Which means people I work with, travel with, and the cities I'm flying too.

From the 5-6 months of business traveling I've done over the last 2-3 years my experience both domestic and abroad has been the majority of business travelers do not check backs. I commuted quite a bit last year Monday to Friday across country and I'm a pretty observant person. Typically business commuters have their little roller suitcases that they put in the overhead. That's just my observation.

My buddy works in customer experience for United and used to work for US Air and he says these types of complaints are pretty much the norm:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/business-travelers-check-your-damn-bags-please/19466

Not a great article but it's a common complaint. Although I'd argue that if you're traveling for business you either have your expenses paid or you have status and there's no checked bag fee.

Over the last 5-8 years I'd say more and more commuters have started carrying on all their luggage (for better or worse) especially after more baggage fees went into place. It's another reason boarding first is so advantageous because you know you're guaranteed a spot in the overhead. I think some airlines (like Frontier) are even charging per carry on.

[Edited on May 17, 2014 at 8:00 PM. Reason : link]

5/17/2014 7:59:26 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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jesus christ can y'all drop the fucking luggage bullshit? no one fucking cares.

5/17/2014 8:01:41 PM

neodata686
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Another reason I know most commuters carry on their bags is because every damn person always has their suitcase with them in the Delta lounges. Sure they COULD be checking a suitcase AND carrying one on but I highly doubt that.

5/17/2014 8:03:48 PM

BridgetSPK
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I normally check all my dildos but cram everything else in my carry-on.

5/17/2014 8:31:40 PM

neodata686
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You don't like a little mile high action in the bathroom?

5/17/2014 8:38:44 PM

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