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lewisje
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Johnson
Wilson
Taylor
Jackson
Adams
Carter
Hayes
Ford
Harrison
Kennedy
Washington
Pierce
Grant
Bush
Buchanan
Tyler
Hoover
Monroe
Jefferson
Nixon
Harding
Cleveland
Madison
Polk
Arthur
McKinley
Lincoln
Clinton
Reagan
Taft
van Buren
Truman
Fillmore
Coolidge
Eisenhower
Roosevelt
Obama

9/28/2014 7:29:17 PM

TreeTwista10
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alphabetical

9/28/2014 7:36:01 PM

Førte
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faggyness

9/28/2014 7:38:27 PM

dweedle
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How white they are, descending

9/28/2014 7:40:06 PM

rjrumfel
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Given the person that posted it, I'd say it is probably some BS like most liberal.

9/28/2014 7:46:42 PM

dtownral
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where they stand on some obscure RGB color space or some retarded obscure shit like that

9/28/2014 7:48:10 PM

Wolfman Tim
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How cisnormative they are

9/28/2014 7:50:02 PM

ncstatetke
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the first half looks like a halfway decent fantasy football team

9/28/2014 8:00:04 PM

Kurtis636
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best to worst on civil rights?

9/28/2014 8:11:27 PM

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"How white they are, descending"


Negative.

Clinton isn't second to last.

9/28/2014 8:12:59 PM

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"best to worst on civil rights?"


Because Andrew Jackson was a great civil rights leader/Indian killer/slave owner.

9/28/2014 8:34:33 PM

ncstatetke
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I only see one Bush

9/28/2014 8:44:04 PM

dweedle
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and one roosevelt

9/28/2014 8:48:11 PM

ncstatetke
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and one Adams

9/28/2014 8:52:22 PM

Smath74
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and one Taft

9/28/2014 9:01:23 PM

Kurtis636
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"Because Andrew Jackson was a great civil rights leader/Indian killer/slave owner."


And had amazing hair!

9/28/2014 9:06:44 PM

dtownral
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These are the Presidents who think those comics are retarded

9/28/2014 11:13:36 PM

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iq, descending order

9/28/2014 11:37:55 PM

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hahahahaha this underwear sniffer thinks Andrew Johnson was our smartest president and Barack Obama was our dumbest.

9/28/2014 11:57:02 PM

lewisje
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The answer is how common their surnames were in the United States as of the 2000 Census; below is a table of their ranks in 2000 and 1990.

|2000| 1990|SURNAME
|----|-----|----------
| 2| 2|Johnson
| 10| 8|Wilson
| 13| 10|Taylor
| 18| 13|Jackson
| 39| 36|Adams
| 46| 40|Carter
| 117| 100|Hayes
| 124| 102|Ford
| 128| 115|Harrison
| 130| 137|Kennedy
| 138| 90|Washington
| 186| 167|Pierce
| 192| 154|Grant
| 346| 304|Bush
| 471| 443|Buchanan
| 477| 415|Tyler
| 532| 571|Hoover
| 567| 523|Monroe
| 594| 460|Jefferson
| 877| 661|Nixon
| 823| 724|Harding
|1056| 907|Cleveland
|1209| 1094|Madison
|1270| 1062|Polk
|1172| 1227|Arthur
|1410| 1325|McKinley
|2068| 2129|Lincoln
|2118| 1706|Clinton
|2122| 2000|Reagan
|3787| 3099|Taft
|5521| 4463|van Buren
|5807| 5293|Truman
|7373| 5790|Fillmore
10253| 9723|Coolidge
22403|16178|Eisenhower
24406|15060|Roosevelt
over 100000|Obama
"Obama" was not on either the 1990 list of surnames or the 2000 list, because there were fewer than 100 people with that surname in the US; there are probably fewer than 100 in the whole world, because the surname started with the President's patrilineal great-grandfather, who was named just "Obama" and used that as the surname for all of his children, and there were probably three Obamas in the US in 2000, one in 1990, and four now.

I was surprised to see that "Truman" and "Roosevelt" were so rare, because I thought that the former was a reasonably common name ("true man" or trustworthy man) and the latter was a distinctly English name of prestige (it is actually of Dutch origin, "rose-field").

Also, it's curious that the original German name "Eisenhauer" (German for "iron-worker") is much more common than "Eisenhower" in the US (ranked 10234 in 2000 and 10509 in 1990).

[Edited on September 29, 2014 at 12:17 AM. Reason : ^now now now he could have been thinking of Lyndon Johnson

9/28/2014 11:59:42 PM

lewisje
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This is a similar list for the Vice Presidents; it's longer because there are 47 (as opposed to 43 Presidents), no two of whom share a surname.

|2000| 1990|SURNAME
|----|-----|----------
| 2| 2|Johnson
| 10| 8|Wilson
| 35| 30|King
| 39| 36|Adams
| 113| 106|Wallace
| 124| 102|Ford
| 125| 119|Marshall
| 223| 208|Wheeler
| 280| 270|Curtis
| 346| 304|Bush
| 395| 345|Stevenson
| 403| 350|Garner
| 422| 420|Sherman
| 477| 415|Tyler
| 509| 462|Morton
| 594| 460|Jefferson
| 655| 599|Humphrey
| 749| 776|Hendricks
| 757| 592|Calhoun
| 877| 661|Nixon
|1172| 1227|Arthur
|1326| 1111|Gore
|1385| 1506|Tompkins
|2031| 1625|Hamlin
|2118| 1706|Clinton
|2253| 1824|Burr
|2563| 2346|Cheney
|2573| 2584|Barkley
|3398| 3657|Agnew
|3650| 3226|Fairbanks
|3698| 3285|Dallas
|5255| 5278|Dawes
|5521| 4463|van Buren
|5807| 5293|Truman
|7373| 5790|Fillmore
|9678| 7968|Hobart
|9768| 9333|Gerry
10253| 9723|Coolidge
17652|13179|Quayle
20111|-----|Rockefeller
24406|15060|Roosevelt
99214|-----|Breckinridge
106477-----|Colfax
114852-----|Biden
over 100000|Mondale
I was surprised to see how relatively common Calhoun is and how rare Colfax, Biden, and Mondale are; also, the alternative spelling "Breckenridge" was much more common, 6651st in 2000 and 5966th in 1990.

In case you're curious about the president (Jefferson F. Davis) and vice president (Alexander Hamilton Stephens) of the CSA, Davis was 7th in 2000 and 6th in 1990, and Stephens was 181st in 2000 and 165th in 1990 (with the alternative spelling Stevens being 122nd in 2000 and 127th in 1990).

9/29/2014 1:24:40 AM

lewisje
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As a minor update, Pence was 2882nd and Trump was 8608th in 1990, and Kaine did not show up, but Kaines was 83189th; in 2000, Pence was 2769th, Trump was 8357th, and Kaine was 39617th.

I also learned that surname data were finally released for 2010 (on 27 December 2016), and I might bother to update the table to reflect that year; Obama finally showed up, ranked 110825th with 159 people (also, Kaine was 37735th, Davis was 8th, Stephens was 190th, Stevens was 135th, and there were 29312001 people with surnames that fewer than 100 people shared): https://www.census.gov/topics/population/genealogy/data/2010_surnames.html

6/29/2017 1:57:28 AM

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"I was surprised to see that "Truman" and "Roosevelt" were so rare"


I've never met or even heard of anyone with those last names within circles of friends/family in my life, have you?

6/29/2017 4:03:48 AM

justinh524
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Dick size

6/29/2017 9:53:43 AM

kdogg(c)
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Why is Kaine mentioned?

DUDE LOST =\ NOT VP

6/29/2017 1:22:37 PM

stevedude
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IT'S OVER 100000!!!!!!!!

6/29/2017 6:04:00 PM

The Coz
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^That's what I thought of!

6/29/2017 8:38:25 PM

lewisje
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^^^I just thought the name was interesting, but I could well compile similar lists of major Presidential and VP nominees whose surnames were not the surnames of actual Presidents or Vice Presidents.

With that said, here's the revised list of Presidential surnames:

| 2010| 2000| 1990|SURNAME
|-----|-----|-----|----------
| 2| 2| 2|Johnson
| 14| 10| 8|Wilson
| 17| 13| 10|Taylor
| 19| 18| 13|Jackson
| 42| 39| 36|Adams
| 49| 46| 40|Carter
| 127| 117| 100|Hayes
| 137| 124| 102|Ford
| 141| 128| 115|Harrison
| 145| 138| 90|Washington
| 146| 130| 137|Kennedy
| 196| 192| 154|Grant
| 202| 186| 167|Pierce
| 372| 346| 304|Bush
| 503| 471| 443|Buchanan
| 509| 477| 415|Tyler
| 580| 532| 571|Hoover
| 615| 594| 460|Jefferson
| 617| 567| 523|Monroe
| 871| 823| 724|Harding
| 907| 877| 661|Nixon
| 1127| 1056| 907|Cleveland
| 1241| 1209| 1094|Madison
| 1247| 1172| 1227|Arthur
| 1296| 1270| 1062|Polk
| 1489| 1410| 1325|McKinley
| 2207| 2122| 2000|Reagan
| 2209| 2068| 2129|Lincoln
| 2242| 2118| 1706|Clinton
| 3933| 3787| 3099|Taft
| 5874| 5521| 4463|van Buren
| 6195| 5807| 5293|Truman
| 7473| 7373| 5790|Fillmore
| 8484| 8357| 8608|Trump
|10782|10253| 9723|Coolidge
|23634|22403|16178|Eisenhower
|24822|24406|15060|Roosevelt
110825|over 100000|Obama


My suspicion is that most of the 159 recorded Obamas had changed their surnames from something else, inspired by the Senator, and later President.

This is a revised list of the Vice Presidents, this time removing any Presidential surnames:

|  2010|  2000| 1990|SURNAME
|------|------|-----|----------
| 34| 35| 30|King
| 123| 113| 106|Wallace
| 139| 125| 119|Marshall
| 243| 223| 208|Wheeler
| 309| 280| 270|Curtis
| 432| 395| 345|Stevenson
| 442| 403| 350|Garner
| 469| 422| 420|Sherman
| 568| 509| 462|Morton
| 705| 655| 599|Humphrey
| 802| 749| 776|Hendricks
| 803| 757| 592|Calhoun
| 1378| 1326| 1111|Gore
| 1485| 1385| 1506|Tompkins
| 2150| 2031| 1625|Hamlin
| 2323| 2253| 1824|Burr
| 2655| 2563| 2346|Cheney
| 2764| 2573| 2584|Barkley
| 2965| 2769| 2882|Pence
| 3602| 3398| 3657|Agnew
| 3743| 3650| 3226|Fairbanks
| 3761| 3698| 3285|Dallas
| 5452| 5255| 5278|Dawes
| 10298| 9678| 7968|Hobart
| 11229| 9768| 9333|Gerry
| 18098| 17652|13179|Quayle
| 20449| 20111|-----|Rockefeller
| 99845|106477|-----|Colfax
|110825|114852|-----|Biden
>161000| 99214|-----|Breckinridge
>161000| over 100000|Mondale


The only change in the VP name rankings is that Breckinridge has become much less common; also, there were as many Bidens as Obamas in the US in 2010.

[Edited on June 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM. Reason : The Presidential name rankings swapped around several places.

6/30/2017 3:20:22 PM

kdogg(c)
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What about Soetoro?

7/1/2017 3:26:17 PM

TreeTwista10
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are there more Obamas or Dukakis'

7/1/2017 3:33:52 PM

BanjoMan
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"Also, it's curious that the original German name "Eisenhauer" (German for "iron-worker") is much more common than "Eisenhower""


Where did you get that translation? Just curious because Eisenhauer literally means iron hitter, (or beater, puncher, etc..)

7/1/2017 4:01:57 PM

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