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Doss2k
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So I am about to start building a new system is this thing usable yet or should I just stick with windows 7?

6/1/2016 10:06:09 AM

neodata686
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Windows 7?! People still use that? Yes get Windows 10. You also only have a little over a month left to get the upgrade for free.

6/1/2016 12:35:53 PM

smoothcrim
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I'd still go with 7. The fact that I can't block specific driver updates or disable cortana while still maintaining system search are major strikes. I also don't like the shitty ads in my start menu.

6/1/2016 1:13:22 PM

dtownral
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why don't you just turn off ads and updates?

for cortona just click "not interested"

[Edited on June 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2016 1:31:16 PM

krallum2016
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I had a bunch of driver issues in Windows 10, so I reverted to 7.

6/1/2016 2:25:21 PM

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https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

6/1/2016 2:36:11 PM

krallum2016
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"Create a Microsoft account to sign into windows"
No thank you and just so you know, we're not off to a good start.

[Edited on June 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ]

6/1/2016 2:52:55 PM

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Windows 10 is leaps better than 7 and 8. I also haven't found an annoying feature I haven't been able to turn off. Also if you prefer the old school control panel, etc menus then you have the option to open those over the new UI versions too.

Virtual desktops is cool too. They work very much like OSX.

Also again can't wait on bash support.

6/1/2016 4:12:28 PM

stowaway
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"Windows 7?! People still use that? Yes get Windows 10. You also only have a little over a month left to get the upgrade for free.
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I still have one computer with XP (internal file server), was up for about 200 days without a restart until I needed to change something minor. Only reason it's not on 7 (right now) is one piece of software, and I'm going to try to find a workaround to get to 7, then to 10, before the cutoff in a few weeks. If it weren't for the need of a new paper/ink profiles for a printer it wouldn't even need to see out of our network.

6/1/2016 5:56:50 PM

neodata686
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I was very impressed by the complete lack of driver exposure to the user in Windows 10. Everything was incredibly fluid and automatic. Two old printers worked flawlessly as well as every one of my peripherals. The forced updates are a little frustrating but you can still turn them off and schedule the updates manually.

6/1/2016 6:31:24 PM

Wyloch
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I want to give it a try but Microsoft really doesn't seem to want to let me.

The "upgrade now" thing that launches whenever I startup (Win7) crashes upon clicking Upgrade Now.

I would like to try the standalone ISO via here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
...but the page doesn't load...just stays white.

None of the many google-able solutions work.

Anyone else?

7/18/2016 7:50:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Windows 10 is leaps better than 7 and 8."

7/18/2016 10:28:07 PM

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^ yup. equating 7 and 8 is like equating 98 and ME.

7/18/2016 10:53:06 PM

0EPII1
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^^^ what if you go to control panels > system and look for "windows update" there? once you find it, there will be a button to start the update process.

7/19/2016 12:38:31 AM

Wyloch
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Windows Update starts, and searches for updates forever. Overnight.

I ended up trying Internet Explorer, and the page did load. I downloaded the ISO, burned to DVD, and began a fresh install with it from cold boot.

During the install, after unpacking the files and beginning to actual install, it crashes throwing 0x8007025D (missing files).

Staying with Win 7.

7/19/2016 7:48:07 AM

dtownral
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are you near a microsoft store? they will give you a new computer if they can't upgrade yours

http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-giving-free-laptop-windows-10/

7/19/2016 10:25:40 AM

CapnObvious
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^Only valid for Windows 8. No guarantee for issues with drivers. This is mostly a smoke-and-mirrors PR offer.

7/19/2016 10:59:22 AM

Wyloch
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Also that POS is laughably next to the likes of my rig.

7/19/2016 1:11:21 PM

neodata686
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You're comparing a mid-range laptop with your desktop?

7/19/2016 1:34:57 PM

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Cortana knows me better than my wife now.

7/19/2016 1:43:46 PM

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The Windows Update service wuauserv is going nuts on some of the Windows 7 computers I work with. Pegging the CPU as if to say, update to Windows 10 OR ELSE.

7/19/2016 1:58:31 PM

Wyloch
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^^^ No. Microsoft is.

7/19/2016 3:11:40 PM

0EPII1
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/locations/windows-10-upgrade-challenge

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"If your PC isn't compatible with Windows 10, we'll recycle it and give you $150 toward the purchase of a new PC**"


LOLWAT?

If your computer isn't compatible with Win 10, we will trash it and give you just $150 for it... REALLY??? How about give me back my damn computer and I will keep running whatever Windows I have on it???

7/19/2016 3:24:58 PM

Wyloch
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I gave it one more shot. Used a different computer (12 year old laptop) to make a USB installer.

Also, during the clean install, I deleted the partition altogether instead of just formatting it. (and then re-allocated it of course).

One of those things solved it.

Also my Win 7 product key worked correctly to activate Windows 10.

Install was the hardest part. All my aged software that I was so worried about seems to work great so far (photoshop CS2, 3ds max 2008, flash 8, etc.)

7/19/2016 7:53:45 PM

0EPII1
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^ yay!

7/20/2016 3:12:24 AM

stowaway
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^^^ you act like that isn't an option. This just lets someone with a really old xp/vista computer to get something for their piece of crap slower than dirt computer.

7/21/2016 9:28:06 AM

TreeTwista10
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read the fine print

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"Devices must be running Windows 8 or newer."


so if you're running Vista or XP, or even Windows 7, you don't your $150 Microsoft Store credit

7/21/2016 10:48:24 AM

rjrumfel
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Anybody here upgraded to the pro version for $100? Is it worth it? I've never used hyperv, as I'm a vmware kinda guy, but it might be neat to have it available.

7/21/2016 1:58:30 PM

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Pro does get Bitlocker which is worthwhile for portable devices imo. I don't know about $100 for only encryption, but if you have other features you're interested in it could sway your decision.

7/21/2016 3:38:27 PM

CapnObvious
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Upgraded from 7 to 10 a few days ago. Not a good start.
-Locked up once already.
-Disc IO was constantly at 100% until I adjusted a billion things. Hopefully that is now fixed.
-Sleep mode is broken. The desktop only appears to sleep for about 24 hours at a time before it decides to turn itself back on with no user assistance.
-Boots slower than 7. Takes longer to recover from a sleep cycle than 7. Maybe this is a symptom of an upgrade as opposed to clean install.

Not impressed.

7/28/2016 3:18:07 PM

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After reading this (https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/07/28/1759229/microsoft-to-disable-policies-in-windows-10-pro-with-anniversary-update), I'm not feeling real motivated to move to an OS where the feature set is going to degrade over time.

7/29/2016 3:28:32 PM

neodata686
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^^Many of those issues are because it's indexing for the first time. If you have a slow HDD it's going to take longer. Same on Windows 7 and 8.

Mine boots just as fast or faster than 8 and certainly 7.

I did an upgrade from 8.1 as well. It also sleeps fine. Could be a driver to blame.

Overall it's far better than 7 and 8.1. Huge improvement across the board.

7/29/2016 5:15:02 PM

CapnObvious
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Apparently Windows 10 (and maybe 8) has a setting to allow it to turn itself back on (during 'sleep') for certain updates. Even if you turn the feature off at the OS level, there are certain processes which have an extra super override which you can turn off, but it gets reset periodically.

"Hello, its me, Windows 10! Its 4AM; is this a good time to turn myself on and update? No? Well fuck you, I am going to do it anyways!"

[Edited on August 3, 2016 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ]

8/3/2016 3:32:47 PM

CapnObvious
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Found it. Windows Media Center defaults to allowing itself to turn on the computer to update itself. While the high value of WMC is tempting, I think I'm going to decline...

Christ...

8/3/2016 10:40:33 PM

neodata686
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The big anniversary update has some cool stuff. Installed Ubuntu bash!

8/11/2016 11:47:57 AM

smoothcrim
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^^ WMC isn't part of win10, and is a big reason why I haven't updated.

8/16/2016 8:45:00 PM

TreeTwista10
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most of the people i know whose systems automatically upgraded, have gone back to Win7

8/17/2016 12:18:46 AM

neodata686
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Hmm no one I know has gone back to Windows 7/8. They all have stuck with 10 and like it. It's one of the first times at my work where the less tech-y crowd hasn't complained about a major windows updates and actually commented on the new windows version being "pretty cool".

Do you only know people 70+?

8/21/2016 2:41:12 PM

TreeTwista10
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Weren't you a big proponent of Windows 8, as well? Obviously, 10 is much better than 8, but I seem to recall you being a cheerleader for people upgrading from 7 to 8 because of all the cool new features...

8/21/2016 2:58:43 PM

neodata686
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I was. Windows 8 (especially with 8.1) had a bunch of cool new stuff. I had no problems upgrading. Maybe it's because I don't really use the start menu and that's what most people complained about but I did have a convertible and 8.1 was worlds better than 7 for touch.

8/21/2016 3:06:12 PM

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Quote :
" for touch"

8/21/2016 5:08:46 PM

BigMan157
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most of the people i know that don't like win10 did an upgrade from 7 instead of a fresh install

8/21/2016 7:44:48 PM

CapnObvious
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Fuck Windows 10. UpdateOrchestrator disengaging sleep mode at 3:30 in the morning to update the fucking system on its own two nights in a row. Fuck this.

8/23/2016 3:40:36 AM

stowaway
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^ I had that going on for quite a while. I forget what I finally found to stop it but finally got it to where it'll stay asleep.

8/23/2016 8:48:30 PM

CapnObvious
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Yeah, I made that post while angry as hell (see the post time ). This is the fourth area I have had to disable to stop the sleep wake-up. The sites I was on also mentioned that certain Windows updates will re-enable these areas, so my jimmies were thoroughly rustled at the time. I am going to look to see what other utilities are out there to strip Windows 10 further. I have already run a few.

8/24/2016 11:21:14 AM

CapnObvious
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Two days before it auto-enabled itself again.
Guess Sleep is no longer a feature for Windows 10. Full shutdowns for me from now on until I either block Microsoft Update except for once per month or go back to Windows 7.

8/25/2016 3:38:57 AM

neodata686
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Yeah not sure. My laptop sleeps fine. I just got back from a 8 day trip without my laptop and returned and it hadn't woke once.

8/25/2016 10:16:35 AM

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If anyone has been getting Inaccessible Boot Device errors lately, apparently Noen's friends at M$ have been fucking up some of the updates but I got this to work:

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Boot Windows 10
Go to Repair
Go to Tools/Options to get a command prompt.
Confirm the drive letter for the Windows image. Usually D: –> dir d:
Run the following to view the installed packages which will also show a date of install.
Dism /Image:\ /Get-Packages
Find the package(s) that were just installed by date. Run the following command on the last installed package:
example: dism.exe /image:d:\ /remove-package /packagenameackage_for_KB4014329~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.0
Reboot.
"


[Edited on January 28, 2018 at 5:20 PM. Reason : damn emojis]

1/28/2018 5:20:03 PM

Grandmaster
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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-issues-windows-out-of-band-update-that-disables-spectre-mitigations/

Yeah these vulnerabilities, mitigation updates and Malwarebyte's Fuck up yesterday have not made for a good month.

1/28/2018 8:12:54 PM

TreeTwista10
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Still having issues on one machine. Blue screen with inaccessible boot device error. Dism'ing will remove updates but still having trouble booting into windows. Might just do a factory reset and restore data.

2/6/2018 11:27:03 AM

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