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http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119

11/25/2014 12:28:55 PM

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That's brutal. It's hard to believe there are people (especially groups) out there with that mindset.

We had lots of house parties and we always did our best to protect our guests and look out for things like this. Once when I was president I had to kick out this one kid who was feeling up random girls. When I approached him, he got scared and tried to run through the tarp we used as a fence out back. I had him by the throat for a little while but eventually he broke through and left. The crazy thing is, he was there with a group of friends including his girl friend. They took him home and came back to the party.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 1:19:19 PM

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^^ I heard it was a bunch of black guys

11/25/2014 1:29:03 PM

BlackJesus
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Yes this is a topic you should troll about. I hope you have a daughter and she goes to UVA.

11/25/2014 1:34:32 PM

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if she didn't want to be raped, she shouldn't have been born

11/25/2014 1:56:14 PM

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^^^^^Reading that nearly made me cry. Rapists should be given the most severe punishment that is possible.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 2:06 PM. Reason : a]

11/25/2014 2:00:28 PM

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For anyone that's too lazy to read it.

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"As the last man sank onto her, Jackie was startled to recognize him: He attended her tiny anthropology discussion group. He looked like he was going to cry or puke as he told the crowd he couldn't get it up. "Pussy!" the other men jeered. "What, she's not hot enough for you?" Then they egged him on: "Don't you want to be a brother?" "We all had to do it, so you do, too." Someone handed her classmate a beer bottle. Jackie stared at the young man, silently begging him not to go through with it. And as he shoved the bottle into her, Jackie fell into a stupor, mentally untethering from the brutal tableau, her mind leaving behind the bleeding body under assault on the floor.
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It's disgusting, and sadly its the norm on a lot of campuses.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 2:09:15 PM

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This is one of the main reasons I was terrified at the thought of having a little girl. I'm glad I won't have to worry about this (1 boy and another on the way).

Oh and her "Three best friends" are definitely not the "Three best friends that anyone can have"

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 2:11:45 PM

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11/25/2014 2:20:29 PM

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I have a little girl

Can you home school college?

11/25/2014 2:26:04 PM

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Her "best friends"

I have a friend that went to UNC and was almost raped, I didn't hear about it until years later but I was ready to kick some ass then. I can only imagine if a friend calls me in the middle of the night and is in that condition when I show up. There'd be hell to pay.

11/25/2014 3:24:06 PM

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If one of my lady friends told me she was raped, it would come time to do some ass whipping, especially in college.

11/25/2014 3:26:00 PM

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wtf.

Those dudes should be stomped, and those girls need to start going to the police. WTF

11/25/2014 4:02:12 PM

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What kind of "friend" encourages someone to keep quiet for the sake of the university? I mean, I'm as die-hard a State fan as anyone else, but why keep this quiet? This attitude of "rape and conceal" is a much bigger blemish on the university than having an instance of rape that was immediately and severely punished.

11/25/2014 4:36:10 PM

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I have a daughter and this makes me sick. I would murder someone and that is a quote.

11/25/2014 4:55:39 PM

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report it, say "fuck that bullshit school", then transfer to NCSU.

11/25/2014 5:11:34 PM

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^^

11/25/2014 5:46:56 PM

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""You're still upset about that?" Andy asked one Friday night when Jackie was crying. Cindy, a self-declared hookup queen, said she didn't see why Jackie was so bent out of shape. "Why didn't you have fun with it?" Cindy asked. "A bunch of hot Phi Psi guys?" One of Jackie's friends told her, unconcerned, "Andy said you had a bad experience at a frat, and you've been a baby ever since.""


11/25/2014 6:00:01 PM

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^This is why it's every parent's responsibility to DRILL self confidence into their daughter's head along with the strength to stand up for herself. Because even "the best friends in the world" will let you down.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 6:03 PM. Reason : a]

11/25/2014 6:02:41 PM

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I can't believe so many of her friends would treat her like that. Literally I have a hard time believing it. Maybe I just don't have shitty people in my life though.

11/25/2014 6:04:06 PM

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^^^ that's really difficult to read, knowing that was said to a rape victim.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 6:59 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2014 6:59:04 PM

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Frats are the worst. Ban frats.

11/25/2014 7:06:12 PM

scotieb24
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Farts are the worst. Ban farts.

11/25/2014 7:30:39 PM

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fraternities basically encourage members to rape

(yes, i am generalizing, but this is a pretty good generalization)

http://mic.com/articles/88147/leaked-emails-from-american-university-frat-reveal-prevalence-of-rape-culture-in-u-s-capital

11/25/2014 10:28:25 PM

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"What kind of "friend" encourages someone to keep quiet for the sake of the university? I mean, I'm as die-hard a State fan as anyone else, but why keep this quiet? This attitude of "rape and conceal" is a much bigger blemish on the university than having an instance of rape that was immediately and severely punished.
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I think its more a 'University of' thing.

11/25/2014 11:34:51 PM

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A school should never be involved in a criminal investigation. The school has too much to lose and will rightfully do everything they can to bury it.

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"“I asked an administrator what the process would look like,” Clark told university paper The Daily Tarheel in January. “Instead, that person told me, ‘Rape is like a football game, Annie. If you look back on the game, and you’re the quarterback and you’re in charge, is there anything that you would have done differently in that situation?’”"


A quote from UNC to a rape victim.

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"report it, say "fuck that bullshit school", then transfer to NCSU."


Sure drunk, entitled, frat, rednecks won't rape her.

[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 7:58 AM. Reason : .]

11/26/2014 7:49:28 AM

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Is there anything preventing these victims from filing a complaint with the local police?

11/26/2014 11:15:01 AM

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No, they aren't prevented from going to the police. But Title IX requires universities to have a plan in place to navigate reports of sexual violence.

http://knowyourix.org/why-schools-handle-sexual-violence-reports/

11/26/2014 11:42:31 AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/uva-response-rape-allegations/index.html?hpt=hp_c2


UVA institutes a "0" tolerance policy for rape and sexual assault. Are you fucking kidding me?

11/26/2014 9:19:45 PM

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Bros doing what they do best

http://m.mic.com/articles/105200/frat-brothers-used-dildos-to-hijack-an-anti-rape-protest-and-then-it-got-even-worse

11/27/2014 6:18:44 AM

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^ So wait

what you're saying is this chick: (pictured who was apparently at this protest)




Had a dildo waved around near her? And that made her upset?

11/28/2014 4:53:53 PM

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Seems pretty normal to me. I've never met a hot feminist.

11/28/2014 6:35:19 PM

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I remember thinking this whole story sounded like fabricated bullshit when I read the article, but now info is coming out about how little fact checking the author did.

I suspect in the coming months there will be an admission that "Jackie" is an amalgam or that the story was embellished significantly for impact.

12/1/2014 3:50:57 PM

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I'm pretty sure the 7 way gangbang rape, with the money shot beer bottle is legit. Jackie hasn't come forward to say no it didn't happen. And the school is on serious damage control.

12/1/2014 3:54:47 PM

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Making outrageous allegations doesn't make it true.

Remember the duke lacrosse case?

This girl may exist, she may have gone to an administrator to make claims.

And of course UVa is in full damage control mode, they've just been accused of having a decades old policy of ignoring gang rape. Even if there's no basis in fact I'm sure it's damaged the school's reputation.

Parts of the article are so fantastic that they deserve some serious scrutiny and corroboration before being considered worthy of investigation let alone being assumed to be true.

They're allegations, not facts, just keep that in mind.

12/1/2014 4:04:41 PM

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This penis party's got to go HEY HEY HO HO

12/1/2014 4:07:01 PM

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This whole thing reminds me of the satanic cult day care scare of the 1980s. Wild stories being taken at face value with no evidence to back it up.

It feels like the author found a lifetime movie script and convince rolling stone to publish it since there's so much debate about campus sexual assault, new consent laws in california, etc. and rolling stone really needed to publish something about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria

[Edited on December 1, 2014 at 4:33 PM. Reason : For reference, some wikipedia if you have no idea what I'm talking about or don't remember it.]

12/1/2014 4:23:17 PM

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^ I completely agree

the story seems like complete bullshit

I am so tired of Baby Boomers reading some shit coming out in Rolling Stone and acting like it's "the voice of a generation" and immediate action should be taken because Rolling Stone really fucking matters

(the punchline to this post is that Rolling Stone is a complete piece of shit magazine that nobody reads and the Baby Boomers' collective consciousness of periodic knee-jerk reactions is the only thing keeping it afloat)

12/1/2014 4:28:59 PM

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thegoodlife3 reads it

as a matter of fact its the closest thing he has to a holy book

12/1/2014 4:45:02 PM

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http://www.srds.com/mediakits/rollingstone/demographics.html

I only took ST371 (this class was a JOKE) but this means Rolling Stone is for millennials right?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

12/1/2014 4:57:42 PM

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Quote :
"Rolling Stone goes beyond just taking the pulse of youth culture. Rolling Stone is the pulse of youth culture.

Whether the subject is music, TV, movies or politics—over 12 million young Americans trust and turn to Rolling Stone every two weeks to keep them up on the subjects they care about most. Bold stories. Big interviews. Insightful commentary. All delivered with energy, passion, irreverence and a point of view that defines its audience. "


Get over yourself, RS.

[Edited on December 1, 2014 at 5:01 PM. Reason : sdfsdf]

12/1/2014 5:01:33 PM

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I do not know ANYONE under the age of 40 who reads Rolling Stone.

Their whole marketing ploy is that old people can read it to feel "hip."

Their self reported statistics that millennials care about Rolling Stone is bullshit.

12/1/2014 5:02:45 PM

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I'm probably the youngest person on this site™ and I have never known anyone EVER that 'reads' Rolling Stone.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

12/1/2014 5:06:10 PM

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I do not know ANYONE under the age of 40 who reads Rolling Stone.

12/1/2014 5:24:50 PM

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I don't have a subscription, but I read RS on a somewhat regular basis. Matt Taibbi was by far one of my favorite journalists during the post-2008 financial meltdown.

Is it really any surprise that the Users accusing rape victims of false allegations, are the same people that don't know anyone that reads long-form journalism???

12/1/2014 6:15:08 PM

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they didnt say that

they said it was a rag

12/1/2014 6:21:01 PM

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"Seems pretty normal to me. I've never met a hot feminist."


How many feminists have you met?
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"Honestly I bet you aren't on a first name basis with 10 brown people feminists "


Her getting a dildo waved in front of her face is like me putting a white sheet over my head and going to the Ferguson protest. It's not that protestors there never seen a bed sheet before, it's that they would know that by showing up at a protest dressed like a KKK member, I am intimidating them. It's not that she hasn't seen a dildo, it's that these guys are out there intimidating the people who protest rape on campus (and they are not necessarily all "feminists" just like the Ferguson protestors are not necessarily all "black")

For a person that's so adamantly vocal about fair treatment of black people, you certainly show to be pretty fucking prejudiced and narrow-minded when it comes to fairness to any other class of humans that you don't belong to and don't seem to understand. That, my black child of god, makes you an ignorant dum-dum at the best, and a hypocrite at the worst.

12/1/2014 6:51:42 PM

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Calling RS journalism is an insult to actual journalism like the economist, which I do read. I have little to nothing to say about "Jackie" but the lack of concrete evidence or other side to any portion of this story makes it suspect.

12/1/2014 7:15:32 PM

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so you've never read Matt Taibbi?

you do realize that it is possible for publications, no matter how ridiculous you find them, to hire excellent writers/journalists, right?

[Edited on December 1, 2014 at 7:37 PM. Reason : Esquire, Playboy, GQ, etc...]

12/1/2014 7:34:31 PM

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ive read two of his books and they were complete shit-

of course you wont agree with me, but a couple of points:

1) hes not funny or clever;

2) regardless of how smart you are (and he is very smart) using certain language in a professional setting makes you a buffoon. the only folks at that point who take you serious... well, i guess they read rolling stone.

tl;dr

hes a cunt, and its honestly a crying shame.

12/1/2014 7:42:27 PM

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