Quote :

"Strained Army Extends Tours To 15 Months Defense Secretary announced yesterday that all active-duty soldiers currently deployed or going to Iraq and Afghanistan will see their one-year tours extended to 15 months, acknowledging that such a strain on the war-weary Army is necessary should the ongoing troop increase be prolonged well into next year"

vs.

Quote :

" Teresa Giudice is making the most of her time at home before beginning her 15-month prison sentence on January 5. The Real Housewives of New Jersey star rang in 2015 at home with her four daughters, Gia, 13, Gabriella, 10, Milania, 8, and Audriana, 4, and her husband Joe, a source tells Us Weekly. Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-celebrates-new-years-eve-with-family-before-prison-201521#ixzz3NmQlOCvQ Follow us: @usweekly on Twitter | usweekly on Facebook"

So you can either attempt to steal 400k in bankruptcy fraud and spend 15 months in hell or you can serve Uncle Sam, make about 40k and spent 15 months in hell.

Steal 400k for 15 months
Make 40k for 15 months.
Seems pretty equitable.

1/3/2015 12:24:56 PM

they only make $32K/year?? that sucks

1/3/2015 12:33:16 PM

But the benefits man!

1/3/2015 1:22:43 PM

There is no way in hell you just make 40k on a 15 month deployment.

1/3/2015 2:17:12 PM

Hazard pay?

1/3/2015 2:24:58 PM

Hardship, family sep, BAS, BAH, hostile fire pay

Not to mention it's all tax free.

1/3/2015 2:34:25 PM

wait, i thought our savior obama ended all wars?

1/3/2015 2:38:56 PM

ehh, i think 40k for 15 months is about right for a deployment

1/3/2015 3:04:57 PM

Okay, lets do the math of a single servicemember living in the barracks on base.

Lets assume, E-3 with 3 years of service.


Base pay: $1,950.00
HFP/IDP: $225
HDP-L: $100
BAS: $254.46
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Total monthly pay: 2529

That's roughly 38k, but that's all tax free, so that's equivalent to more. In addition, that service member has zero bills related to living expenses like rent, groceries, etc.

In addition, the service member will earn ~45 days of tax free vacation while on his deployment.

If the service member has family, you add 250 a month or 3750 for the 15 months to it.

If the service member is living off base, he still gets his BAH, so for an E-3 with 3 years, based on averages of CONUS that's an extra 950 a month single, or 1300 a month with dependents, again tax free.

1/3/2015 3:26:10 PM

The only problem is, most junior enlisted are incredibly dumb with money and will go out and buy a shitty ford mustang when they get back.

1/3/2015 3:26:41 PM

Also, this is from an article in 2007.

1/3/2015 6:01:19 PM

Quote :

"i think 40k for 15 months is about right for a deployment"

why. in. the. hell. would anyone risk death for such shitty pay?

1/3/2015 6:11:21 PM

Answer:





and it is all in the name of defending pieces of shit like the Giudices, for less than 1/10 of the $ they stole

so that our fat housewives can sit at home and read about them in US Weekly and spend our money putting their shows on DVR

1/3/2015 6:14:49 PM

^^ It's decent pay all things considered.

1/3/2015 6:20:22 PM

^^^
also, maybe they have nothing better to do

I'd rather make a career in the armed forces than at McDonald's, or most any other retail establishment


[Edited on January 3, 2015 at 6:22 PM. Reason : ^]

1/3/2015 6:22:14 PM

Could someone describe the nature of the alleged fraud referenced herein. I did a quick googling but none of the recent articles describe what they actually did, just that it was 41 counts of fraud and related activities.

1/3/2015 6:31:28 PM

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2013/Guidice,%20Giuseppe%20and%20Teresa%20Indictment.pdf


Overstating income when applying to get a loan.
Then understating income when declaring bankruptcy.

Sort of like "Hey let's borrow money and then keep it and discharge the debt obligation in bankruptcy proceedings."

Net result is profit and also illegal.

Sure they pleaded out and are subject to a restitution order, but the lenders will never see a penny of that money.

1/3/2015 7:19:09 PM

Quote :

"why. in. the. hell. would anyone risk death for such shitty pay? "

there were quite a few who were join the army or go to jail type, but there were some who just really wanted to be in the army, for whatever reason they had. Also, a bunch of guys from different countries who were trying to get citizenship

1/3/2015 7:25:42 PM

The military gives people who come from a background of nothing and gives them a well earned place in society.

1/3/2015 7:29:32 PM

From the indictment it seems like they were asking to get caught. I guess their 6-figure income wasn't good enough. They also had to try to steal 5 million from various financial institutions, and not pay any of their taxes. Then in the bankruptcy proceedings they fail to disclose things, then they do disclose them, then fail to disclose them again?

How did they manage to get such light sentences? 41 and 15 months? The case seems like a slam dunk. I would think that much fraud over the course of a decade warrants 10 times as much prison.

1/3/2015 7:53:12 PM

That's what I am saying

15 months for 400k (estimated what they will walk away with in spite of restitution, at least)
15 months for 40k

Shocked the media is pushing 15 months as monumental to the dependopotami of the world then military fams endure much much longer...for much less money

Just thoughts about the direction things are going......


________
If you asked your average military recruit on his first day of a 15 month deployment:

Would you trade this in right now to spend the remaining 15 months in jail for a payout of 10x what you are about to earn over the next year, what would that recruit say?

[Edited on January 3, 2015 at 8:04 PM. Reason : ]

1/3/2015 8:02:07 PM

You do realize your quote is from 2007 right? I mean you had to, because you said "Defense Secretary" and you cut out Gates' name in your copy/paste job. Fucking idiot.

[Edited on January 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM. Reason : a]

1/3/2015 8:04:14 PM

The activities in their indictment extends back from 2005, and the heart of much of their criminal activity occurred in 2007. The comparison is still relevant. You could be sitting at home defrauding a bank or deployed overseas in exchange for 15 months. That's all.

1/3/2015 8:14:58 PM

Nah, I just think you're a fucking moron.

1/3/2015 8:20:38 PM

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