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rjrumfel
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This is where we discuss all of the things that the president proposes that he knows will get shot down, only to make Republicans look like the bad guys.

1/20/2015 8:21:17 AM

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jeez man, always the victim. do you actually want a discussion, or do you just want to bash?

(reminds me of the fox news "news anchor" who, before some obama speech, said something like "i really disagree with what i think obama is going to say")

[Edited on January 20, 2015 at 10:33 AM. Reason : ]

1/20/2015 10:32:38 AM

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Well, based on the snippets we've gotten so far...the budget, the community college tuition thing, it seems like the tone has already been set.

But we'll see. I would like to be proven wrong, and I hope I am. I'd for once like to see a congress and a president who works together to get things done that really helps.

1/20/2015 10:42:00 AM

y0willy0
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are the additional tax breaks for the middle class in there too

1/20/2015 10:50:20 AM

GoldieO
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Am I the only one who has given up watching the SOTU? Yes, I am a Republican, but it's also the whole pomp and circumstance of the SOTU that troubles me. I didn't watch last year and don't think I missed anything that a quick review of the news the next morning didn't tell me.

1/20/2015 11:04:18 AM

y0willy0
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youre right

they should conduct it like a middle school PTA meeting

1/20/2015 11:16:00 AM

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I think that hiking capital gains rates on families making > $500k/year is a great idea. I'd probably hike them even more, and lower the threshold a little bit.

I think that a lot of the ideas will be shitty stuff I don't agree with, but that one is a good one. Lower corporate tax rates, reduce "corporate welfare", and close loopholes & exemptions for both individuals and companies, too, but preserve the low marginal rates on high earners.

1/20/2015 11:27:19 AM

Bullet
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hasn't the SOTU always been pompous lip-service?

1/20/2015 11:38:34 AM

OmarBadu
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^^ how will the market react when there is a massive sell off to realize the long term capital gains at the lower rate prior to the tax increase?

1/20/2015 11:51:36 AM

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"I think that hiking capital gains rates on families making > $500k/year is a great idea. I'd probably hike them even more, and lower the threshold a little bit."


Agreed. What is it now, 18%?

1/20/2015 1:13:05 PM

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"to make Republicans look like the bad guys"


They need Obama's help with that!

1/20/2015 1:48:40 PM

OmarBadu
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^^ 23.8%

1/20/2015 2:32:17 PM

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^ Hows does that work? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax_in_the_United_States


Never mind I see what you mean

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"On Jan. 1, the top capital gains rate went from 15% to 20%. Plus there’s a 3.8% net investment income surtax for singles earning over $200,000 and couples earning over $250,000. No wonder planners are plotting ways around the new higher taxes. Here’s help."


[Edited on January 20, 2015 at 3:17 PM. Reason : ]

1/20/2015 3:14:48 PM

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"They [don't] need Obama's help with that!"


ftfm

1/20/2015 7:20:28 PM

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http://www.newsweek.com/obamas-state-union-what-expect-300885

1/20/2015 7:20:28 PM

Byrn Stuff
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Boehner has an amazing poker face

1/20/2015 9:16:42 PM

OmarBadu
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interesting that they released the speech early

https://medium.com/@WhiteHouse/president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address-remarks-as-prepared-for-delivery-55f9825449b2

1/20/2015 9:18:25 PM

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^^Really? I think it looks like he is disengaged and checking his text messages every couple of minutes.

Friday night pizza is a big splurge.

[Edited on January 20, 2015 at 9:27 PM. Reason : -]

1/20/2015 9:26:41 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Boehner only claps for issues that deal with scary foreign boogiemen

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"^^ how will the market react when there is a massive sell off to realize the long term capital gains at the lower rate prior to the tax increase?"


I'm sure they will implement a phase-out or grandfather period to make it less dramatic.


[Edited on January 20, 2015 at 9:59 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2015 9:55:54 PM

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close gitmo! let all of the terrorists free!!!1

1/20/2015 9:58:23 PM

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1/20/2015 10:03:29 PM

AndyMac
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Obama with the sick burn to hecklers

1/20/2015 10:08:42 PM

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not really. these speeches are always given out early.

1/20/2015 11:19:09 PM

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1/21/2015 9:03:12 AM

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