and we're ok with lying to get laid?

yeah i just had a clean STD test last week

yeah i'm definitely gonna propose after we pop that cherry

i love you

6/4/2015 3:38:41 PM

relevant video here:
http://www.out.com/television/2015/4/22/amy-schumer-interviews-trans-porn-star-bailey-jay-inside-amy-schumer-premier

^ those aren't "okay" but no one ever threatens to beat up a person for it. I think it is ethical for a trans person to let the other person know at some point before they get too physical, but this shouldn't result in the other person getting angry about this.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2015 3:38:51 PM

^^ no. But beating the shit out of someone who says "I love you" and doesn't mean it is universally frowned upon, whereas beating the shit out of a tranny is apparently accepted in some circles.

6/4/2015 3:40:19 PM

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"But beating the shit out of someone who says "I love you" "

This is totally accepted in some circles as well. Just look at the NFL.

6/4/2015 3:41:18 PM

I was hooking up with this one lady once, and while I was sucking her dick, she told me that she was really a man....

6/4/2015 3:41:37 PM

where the fuck did I claim anywhere that it's ok to commit violence against transgendered people?

if you have to literally make shit up to try to "win" a debate, then you fucking suck.

6/4/2015 3:41:54 PM

This is entertaining

6/4/2015 3:43:01 PM

^^^^ good point. Misogyny and lgbt bashing go hand and hand

^^ calm down bro. Didn't say you.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 3:43:31 PM

but what if I want to procreate with said person?

6/4/2015 3:54:42 PM

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"Also, I'm going to answer Bullet's ridiculous hypothetical question...The answer is because WOMEN can't even compete with women. If we are going to divide everyone up into two distinct groups... then this shit is going to keep happening. "

I didn't ask if they can. I asked if you think they should be able to. Because from a lot of comments in this thread, it seems than some of you would claim that it would be bigoted/condescending to not allow them to compete as a woman, since he identifies as a woman.

And please explain why it's such a ridiculous hypothetical question. I asked if Bruce decided to do this 40 years ago, do you think he should be allowed to compete against women in track-and-field competition. I don't think it's all that of an outlandish question. And the goodlife's "answers" weren't answers at all, but just avoidance of the question: "he didn't, so why ask the question? that's up to the sports governing body to decided. if your mom had wheels, would she be a bike?" it's as if he didn't have an opinion on the subject, and i know that can't be true.

(and I kinda get, but don't totally get the gender vs. sex semantics argument. can someobody describe it in simple terms?)

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2015 3:56:49 PM

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"So please, men, how are you harmed by having consensual sex with someone whose body you find pleasing, if they are not the sex you perceive them to be?"

this doesn't have to be explained, justified.

OR

women can start explaining why they don't want to fuck a person, every time they say no.

6/4/2015 4:00:12 PM

Bullet, as I understand it, and I'm sure someone will point out how wrong I am, gender is the social construct that has been assigned to a having a penis and a vagina.

6/4/2015 4:04:23 PM

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"it's as if he didn't have an opinion on the subject, and i know that can't be true."

or maybe I just don't know enough about the biology of a post-op transgendered person to have an informed opinion? or if there has ever been an instance of this happening?

it has absolutely nothing to do with being accepting of a decision that a human deicides to do with their own body.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 4:22 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 4:04:40 PM

Gender is different from gender identity

6/4/2015 4:07:08 PM

they can explain: your breath stank. your penis is small. i saw how many credit cards you have in your wallet. whatever. they don't tell because it would hurt your feelings, or because it has nothing to do with you. i have my period. the drugs peaked and i gotta go home before i start puking. I think I'm going to pass out and you'll take my previous consent as free rein to keep fucking me in every hole.

6/4/2015 4:07:39 PM

I, too, get worked up about dumb stuff

6/4/2015 4:13:15 PM

6/4/2015 4:17:55 PM

Ya know... let's all take a step back, and enjoy what a REAL women looks like.

6/4/2015 4:26:17 PM

This is a better explanation than I could ever come up with when it comes to gender vs sex:

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"What is gender identity? Gender identity occurs from the neck up. Biological sex is defined from the neck down. Our gender is the self-defined recognition of our selves as either male, female, or some combination of characteristics from both. Gender is a term which reflects our "social" self, rather than our biological self. Our gender does not, in fact, always match our biological markings as "male" or "female.""

http://www.bilerico.com/2008/11/a_gender_primer.php

I agree that a transwoman should disclose her 'history' before things get physical. It doesn't make it acceptable to hit her if you find out once the clothes come off though.

6/4/2015 4:28:00 PM

^^ Don't post a tranny and say real woman.

6/4/2015 4:57:20 PM

damn people

it isn't rape to not disclose what's under your pants. you also don't have to go any further if you aren't comfortable with what you find. maybe men should have to disclose if their dick is really big or really small or weird lookin? or women should disclose hairy vag? because some people don't like those things?

honestly, if you're attracted to every other part of a person, just let her suck your weiner and put it in her butt. you're not GAY FOREVER for stepping slightly outside your boundaries

deep down i think people are just scared they'll enjoy it

to bullet's point: Are you saying trans people shouldn't exist because it might cause an issue with sports? We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but its a laughable, Limbaugh-esque argument to bring into this thread.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 5:01 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 4:58:27 PM

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"to bullet's point: Are you saying trans people shouldn't exist because it might cause an issue with sports? We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but its a laughable, Limbaugh-esque argument to bring into this thread."

Nope. I've never said anything close to that, and I'm not sure where you came up with that. Actually, I've said multiple times that if someone born as a man wants to live as a woman, then they should go for it and I really have no problem with it (and just being honest, i think it's a little weird, but whatever, people are weird, and it's not hurting me, so go for it). But in thinking of the implications, I am genuinely curious about how some people would feel if Bruce did this 40 years ago and wanted to compete against women. Because again, it seems from some of the comments in this thread, people would say it's bigoted or condescending to deny them.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 5:15 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2015 5:14:11 PM

the problem with that attitude is instead of accepting them as people, your concern is with the "implications"

like moron was saying earlier, its along the lines of "you can be gay, just dont do it near me"

6/4/2015 5:17:37 PM

This matter is kinda over and done with already.

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"The International Olympic Committee (IOC) settled the issue of transgender athletes in 2004, when they released the rules for them to compete. The IOC rules boil down to three basic points: They must have had gender reassignment surgery. They must have legal recognition of their assigned gender. They must have at least two years of hormone therapy. Given these conditions, the IOC does not consider being transgender an unfair advantage. The IOC did, however, consider drinking too much coffee an unfair competitive advantage for nearly 20 years. The IOC still considers baking soda a potential doping agent, though. Many common cough syrups, lozenges, eye drops, cold medications, diet products, nasal sprays, and allergy medications will also result in a medical disqualification for being at an unfair advantage. Clearly, the IOC does not approach matters of unfair advantage with an under-abundance of caution."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/do-transgender-athletes-have-an-unfair-advantage_b_4918835.html

6/4/2015 5:17:57 PM

well there ya go

6/4/2015 5:20:42 PM

this is all fucking gross

there is not one trans person in existence that's attractive

6/4/2015 6:50:06 PM

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"Right after tonguing out their asshole for 30 minutes, "btw did you used to have a ding dong?" "

Damn. 30 minutes. That's dedication.

6/4/2015 7:35:15 PM

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"stepping slightly outside your boundaries"

Slightly???

6/4/2015 11:11:54 PM

NONE OF THEM PLEASE INTERNET USER BUBBLEBOBBLE'S COCK.

THE AUTHORITY ON ATTRACTIVENESS.

CASE CLOSED.

"FUCKING GROSS."

[Edited on June 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2015 7:50:47 PM

terrible driver
desperate for attention
willing to undergo plastic surgery to enhance looks

and y'all think this chick is just confused about her gender?

6/6/2015 9:49:03 PM

She's basically more important to civil rights than Martin Luther King Jr, ITT

6/6/2015 11:43:31 PM

Serious question, do clubs that have stuff like "Ladies get in free" let people in if they identify as a woman?

6/7/2015 12:45:35 AM

Depends on if the bouncer is considering ladies based on gender or by sex

6/7/2015 10:00:57 AM

^^^To the 67 people in this country who identify that way, he's their MLK. How long before every art district has a street named CJ Boulevard?

6/7/2015 6:59:41 PM

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"NONE OF THEM PLEASE INTERNET USER BUBBLEBOBBLE'S COCK."

english holmes...

6/7/2015 7:06:36 PM

did I e-stutter?

6/7/2015 10:43:11 PM

why are you being such a fag about it tho

an "expert on attractiveness"

that doesn't even make sense

just because I'm not necessarily attractive doesn't mean I don't know what a hot bitch looks like

are you trying to defend trannies

6/7/2015 10:44:49 PM

and yes

you actually kinda did e-stutter 'cause it doesn't make any sense

FIGHT ME IRL MOTHERFUCKER


you act like I fucked your mother or something, geez louise


ohhh, I get it

Bweez must be a tranny

SORRY FOR OFFENDING YOU

DIDN'T MEAN TO BRING OUT THE ALL-CAPS RAGE IN YOU YOU FUCKING FREAK OF NATURE

6/7/2015 10:45:13 PM

He's saying that you can't just declare that an entire group of people is unattractive, as if your dick's reaction is the single, definitive measure of what society should classify as appealing.

6/7/2015 10:53:16 PM

I don't quite remember saying that my dick's reaction (apparently my dick is an entity of its own with its own thoughts, but anyway..) is at all definitive

why would you go out of your way to defend that statement

who the fuck cares

6/7/2015 10:55:50 PM

bubble would kill miley to fuck bailey jay

6/7/2015 10:55:59 PM

LOL

bailey jay is a perfect example..

like why is her/his/whateverthefuck face so gross

absolutely nothing attractive about the body

fuck

the 21st century sucks so far

6/7/2015 10:56:52 PM

^^^I went out of my way because you were repeatedly posting a shit ton of caps pretending you didn't understand his point. You were and still are being obnoxious.

Plus, y'all talking about what you do and do not find attractive, as if anybody cares, is annoying.

I mean, I spent thirty minutes on the phone this morning, speculating about what David Duchovny's wiener must be like, and I try to post stuff like that on occasion. But y'all share that stuff like it has meaning and relevance to others.

[Edited on June 7, 2015 at 11:06 PM. Reason : Seriously, what y'all think his wiener like?]

6/7/2015 11:03:11 PM

^^and you would still go out of your way to fuck her if you could

6/7/2015 11:04:17 PM

I once had sex with BubbleBobble. And you know what? I didn't have to ask if he used to be a woman. I knew he was a man. It's Adam and Steve, not Adam and Caitlyn.

6/7/2015 11:09:18 PM

^LOL

o twista....



^^^FUCKING FIGHT ME IRL BRIDGET

I INVENTED CAPITAL LETTERS, BITCH

6/7/2015 11:10:54 PM

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"Plus, y'all talking about what you do and do not find attractive, as if anybody cares, is annoying."

oh yeeeah?

well YOU talking about talking about what people do and don't find attractive being annoying is annoying

6/7/2015 11:12:08 PM

AHA, am I genuinely annoying?

Nobody lets me know that anymore so I just have to assume I am.

6/7/2015 11:28:28 PM

you're not annoying to me

the only people that annoy me are the ones who are repeatedly annoyed by me and start trolling me

and you guys are endearing trolls, so I can't ever be mad at you

6/7/2015 11:36:03 PM

it wasn't all caps rage it was more like all caps flippancy.

yeah, i was trying to e-defend 'trannies'. rather than pile on a marginalized group with a 40% rate of attempted suicide. how silly of me!

i wasn't commenting on your attractiveness, i was taking issue with your objective wording. "there is not one trans person in existence that's attractive" is a ridiculous statement.

And while I'm being such a 'fag,' David Duchovny probably has a pretty solid weiner.

6/8/2015 12:31:39 AM