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EMCE
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"^yeah there's nothing wrong with being proud of your race unless your white somehow. how about we just apply same standards to everyone"


except throughout history, there wasn't even really a concept of a 'white race'. The divisions in society were drawn across ethnic and geographical lines. So you can certainly have pride in your heritage, which I think is perfectly healthy! Which white people certainly do, with your Oktoberfests and St. Patty's days. But those aren't necessarily taking pride in a white race. See the difference?

4/26/2017 9:15:49 PM

beatsunc
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^i am not sure of your point no. i was using race as synonym for ethnicity

4/27/2017 7:26:21 AM

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"except throughout history, there wasn't even really a concept of a 'white race'. The divisions in society were drawn across ethnic and geographical lines."


that applies to blacks and Asians too. Sub-Saharan Africans have been warring over tribal differences for centuries, and both east and west Asian history is littered with long-standing hatred of other regions. Koreans hating Japanese, Hutus slaughtering Pygmies, Indians hating Pakistanis, everyone in the Arab states hating everyone else.

4/27/2017 1:01:06 PM

EMCE
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Of course, and that brings up a great point perhaps more germane to the conversation at hand. The reason blacks in America get to take pride in their race is because their culture identify was stolen from them. It is extremely hard for us to say "my people come from Ghana, so let me take pride in my Ghana heritage. " Many times, all we have to identify with is our race.

[Edited on April 27, 2017 at 1:12 PM. Reason : WHITE PWR]

4/27/2017 1:11:59 PM

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Your identity was stolen, no doubt.

But mine was lost as well. It wasn't stolen, but I sure as hell can't relate to anything related to Oktoberfest, outside of good beer of course, even though my family hails from Germany. It has been so many generations, my family over the years has just decided to not follow their past.

So I really have no other identity or heritage than "white."

4/27/2017 1:24:28 PM

thegoodlife3
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you know your heritage

most black people don't have even that

there's no real comparison

4/27/2017 1:34:48 PM

rjrumfel
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I'm not arguing with you at all. I just find it curious that someone questions the ability of someone to celebrate a "white" heritage, because for many caucasians, that's really all they know. Sure, I may know that a few folks immigrated in the 1820's from Germany, but a lot of people don't. They just know I'm Amurican F' yea!" And don't know/care where their family came from.

4/27/2017 1:39:56 PM

rwoody
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I'm not arguing, now here's my argument

4/27/2017 1:41:45 PM

thegoodlife3
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oh great, it's an appearance of the, "why can't we have a white history month?!?" line of thinking

4/27/2017 1:44:37 PM

eleusis
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"German pride" has historically ended badly for all of Europe.

4/27/2017 1:46:54 PM

JCE2011
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"^ dailycaller is trash"


It's the right wing equivalent of the trash you post

4/27/2017 1:56:06 PM

thegoodlife3
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"I'm not arguing with you at all. I just find it curious that someone questions the ability of someone to celebrate a "white" heritage, because for many caucasians, that's really all they know. Sure, I may know that a few folks immigrated in the 1820's from Germany, but a lot of people don't. They just know I'm Amurican F' yea!" And don't know/care where their family came from"


this is what's known as "privilege"

an entire race of people don't have the privilege of their ancestors not giving a damn and not keeping track of their ancestry

4/27/2017 2:18:24 PM

EMCE
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Again,
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"except throughout history, there wasn't even really a concept of a 'white race'. The divisions in society were drawn across ethnic and geographical lines. So you can certainly have pride in your heritage, which I think is perfectly healthy! Which white people certainly do, with your Oktoberfests and St. Patty's days. But those aren't necessarily taking pride in a white race. See the difference?"

Europeans weren't hanging around having a kumbaya moment over their whiteness. It sounds like you're just kind of willfully ignoring your heritage, whereas the heritage of most african Americans has been stolen from them. That's a bit like saying "even though I choose not to use my legs, I still want to park in the handicap space like this disabled person gets to. Yes, I understand that he doesn't have legs."

[Edited on April 27, 2017 at 2:53 PM. Reason : D]

4/27/2017 2:35:23 PM

thegoodlife3
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I was looking forward to more white heritage posts

4/28/2017 11:36:36 AM

afripino
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sorry, I #literally can't trace back the exact African nation I originated from (for some strange reason those records aren't available) to advocate for their traditional holidays to be celebrated in Murica. But we got Oktoberfest and Columbus Day and Valentine's Day and shit tho.

4/28/2017 12:22:18 PM

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I don't know that African Americans have had their cultural identity stolen from them.

I mean, it was changed dramatically through the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

But there's still very clearly a cultural identity there, and having "black pride" is a completely legitimate sentiment.


Also, I think there are daily experiences--unique to black people--that could make them more likely to feel racial pride...
...whereas white folks just want to associate themselves with the accomplishments of some distant (and invariably privileged) white person.

4/28/2017 1:33:28 PM

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"I don't know that African Americans have had their cultural identity stolen from them.

I mean, it was changed dramatically through the trans-Atlantic slave trade."


Does not compute.

4/28/2017 1:44:44 PM

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/student-craigslist-slaves-for-sale-ad-trnd/index.html

4/28/2017 3:15:37 PM

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^^Whitesplanation

4/28/2017 5:47:24 PM

BridgetSPK
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LOL, y'all dumb.

4/28/2017 11:23:56 PM

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Well, at least BridgetSPK isn't wishing death on TWW mothers' babies ITT.

It could be worse!

4/29/2017 12:48:36 AM

0EPII1
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^ , ^^^, ^^^^^

^^

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"I don't know that African Americans have had their cultural identity stolen from them.

I mean, it was changed dramatically through the trans-Atlantic slave trade."


WTF @ the first sentence??? And LOL at "changed".

Is there anything left in African-American culture today from their original African cultures?

Names?
Foods?
Religions/beliefs?
Languages?
Ethnicities?
Tribal connections?
Celebrations?
Customs?
Skills?
Ancient knowledge?

They weren't "changed", they were erased. Yes, they were forcefully stolen.

4/29/2017 1:45:45 AM

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Everyone's culture changes all the time. Your culture is different than your parents' culture.

People are too hung up with retaining their perception of their parents culture, instead of embracing their own unique culture forged through a different social/technological furnace.

It sucks that africans were stripped from their identity, buy they are now Americans that have been here hundreds of years, and they not only retain a uniquely American cultural identity (arguably one of the most unique in the world), but black American cultural evolution is often the driving force behind broader American cultural development.

Culture is supposed to change, adapt, be appropriated, and do its own appropriating.

4/29/2017 1:59:11 AM

BridgetSPK
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^^^You real dumb.

^^You extra, extra dumb.

4/29/2017 6:53:48 AM

0EPII1
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^ OMG look at this Tanzanian woman

4/29/2017 9:55:13 PM

tulsigabbard
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It would be nice to know what your ancestors were doing. What country they lived in etc.

4/29/2017 10:04:53 PM

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https://www.ancestry.com/dna/

4/29/2017 10:35:50 PM

0EPII1
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What you guys think of this?

https://www.youngcons.com/proctor-gamble-facing-backlash-for-releasing-racially-charged-ad/

8/1/2017 3:50:21 PM

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^looked like p&g wants black people to teach their kids how to not get killed by police. fine. im not going to buy or boycott tide over it

8/1/2017 7:57:31 PM

moron
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https://www.vibe.com/2016/05/marijuana-arrests-colorado-skyrocket-black-latino/

After places legalize weed, non-whites still get scrutinized more by the police:
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"The report found a huge gap in numbers in relation to how adolescents, ages 10-17 were being in arrested, which apparently was contingent upon their race. While there was an eight percent decrease in arrest of white kids for marijuana from 2012-2014, black juvenile arrests shot up by 58 percent, and Latino arrests followed that increase by 29 percent.
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In 2014, black adults were arrested at almost triple the number of whites. And in 2012, blacks were arrested for weed related crimes nearly double the rate as white people were.

The problem also exists in other states and cities that have approved the recreational use of marijuana, like Chicago, Massachusetts and Washington state. They too have a seen an increase in arrests, a pool of minority offenders that only deepens.
"

8/3/2017 12:18:10 PM

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^ Honestly I think it boils down to the fact that white kids try to at least be discreet when smoking weed. Black dudes absolutely do not give a fuck will walk around puffing on a blunt in broad daylight.

8/3/2017 1:14:56 PM

thegoodlife3
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honestly I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about

8/3/2017 1:16:22 PM

xienze
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It's true though. Go venture through the hood during the day. Or at 3 AM, where you'll find people milling around, which you don't see happening in white neighborhoods. Also another reason they get in trouble more often.

[Edited on August 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ...]

8/3/2017 1:17:16 PM

0EPII1
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2017/08/03/writers-incredulous-discovery-many-white-people-believe-black-people-get-everything-free/

holy shit are people this fucking misinformed/stupid???



Writer’s Incredulous Discovery That Many White People Believe Black People Get Everything for Free

[Edited on August 3, 2017 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

8/3/2017 4:39:40 PM

0EPII1
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Most disgusting and just wrong thing I have seen in a while

https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/facebooks-complicity-in-the-silencing-of-black-women-e60c34434181



Read and weep at the deeply entrenched tentacles of murderous and senseless racism coursing through America's veins.

8/3/2017 7:27:39 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Dude you need to put the internet down for a while"

8/3/2017 7:34:51 PM

0EPII1
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Don't condone ignorance, bigotry, racism, and white supremacism.

8/3/2017 7:35:39 PM

TreeTwista10
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Don't oversaturate your brain with collections of tweets by random assholes and act like it's some groundbreaking stuff

8/3/2017 7:39:09 PM

0EPII1
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There are way too many such "random" assholes.

And when she complained to FB for receiving death and rape threats, she was suspended for 3 days.

8/3/2017 7:44:16 PM

kdogg(c)
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^^^^^^ as many people I bet believed they would get everything for free when Barack Obama because President.

8/3/2017 8:13:34 PM

afripino
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So instead of agreeing that those people are dumb, you bring up other dumb shit. Way to go.

Johnny has one leg.

Well, Susie has no legs!

Doesn't change the fact that Johnny has one leg.

8/3/2017 10:35:21 PM

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black people eat at cracker barrel

8/4/2017 10:00:00 AM

0EPII1
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Look at these fucking assholes
https://www.facebook.com/afropolitaninsights/videos/1531728743547002

And this is a great read:

How the 'Grassroots Resistance' of White Women Shaped White Supremacy
https://pictorial.jezebel.com/how-the-grassroots-resistance-of-white-women-shaped-whi-1822340338

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"The next summer (1955), Bell tried to rally newspaper editors and segregationists across the state. In a letter to the Raleigh News Observer, Bell explained her commitment to school segregation as an attempt to protect her two little girls and to secure states’ rights. She intended to put her typewriter to use for “the cause.” For others, she wrote, “maybe it will take a little violence,” glibly noting that “it was too bad about the murder of the fourteen year old negro boy,” but wondered if “this could be only a mild beginning.” Included with the letter was the lengthy “New Hanover County Preliminary Report” which she had helped compile and distribute. Filled with questionable quantitative and anecdotal evidence, the report cataloged the deleterious effects of school desegregation, predicting the decline of the family, the schools, the state, and the nation. It acknowledged parental fears that their white daughters would marry someone’s black sons and that academics would suffer as black students with low IQs and high sex drives diminished the education of white students. These problems would be compounded by “the negro teacher,” who subjected to “subversive propaganda,” sees the world in a way “antagonistic, to the white philosophy of life.” These malignant consequences would ripple across the nation, the report predicted, as integrated schools fulfilled the wishes of communists and infiltrated the minds of America’s youth with a “one-world” doctrine."


[Edited on February 3, 2018 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]

2/3/2018 3:59:01 PM

0EPII1
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Has this abomination been overturned yet or not?

U.S. Court Rules Dreadlock Ban During Hiring Process Is Legal
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/u-s-court-rules-dreadlock-ban-during-hiring-process-legal-n652211

3/8/2018 3:27:27 AM

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"So instead of agreeing that those people are dumb, you bring up other dumb shit. Way to go.

Johnny has one leg.

Well, Susie has no legs!

Doesn't change the fact that Johnny has one leg."


Why they gotta be white?

3/8/2018 10:56:33 AM

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http://www.wral.com/report-black-elementary-school-students-being-suspended-from-wake-schools-at-disproportionate-rate/17414407/

3/13/2018 8:39:48 PM

beatsunc
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we need affirmative action suspensions. send random white kids home for a few days

3/13/2018 8:56:16 PM

rjrumfel
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I only wonder if the attention is focused in the right place though. There aren't enough statistics in the article to get the full picture. If white kids are being turned in at the same rate as black kids, but are getting less suspensions for the same offenses, then yes this is most definitely a problem.

But if there are 5 white kids and 5 black kids, one white kid cusses out a teacher vs 3 black kids cussing out a teacher and all 4 get suspensions, then we need to find out why these 4 kids are cussing out teachers. That would be the appropriate question I think.

3/13/2018 9:19:48 PM

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Or if the teacher let's the white kid slide because he's probably a good kid being a kid, but the black kid needs to be shown what happens when he acts out and taught a lesson.

3/13/2018 9:36:13 PM

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I think it's usually up to the principal / vice principals

3/13/2018 10:04:20 PM

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