beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=rlhn7&wfo=rah&refresh=true
the suspense is real
[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM. Reason : t] 10/2/2015 6:15:40 AM |
drtaylor All American 1969 Posts user info edit post |
That's cool. I was going to walk over at some point today and see what it looked like at Ebenezer, but now I can just sit here instead and save myself 10 minutes. 10/2/2015 8:54:11 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
they need a webcam 10/2/2015 9:00:42 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
only to stage 7? weak. though that's impressive for nearly 8 days in a row with rain. 10/2/2015 9:30:51 AM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
What normally "bad"? 10/2/2015 1:39:38 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
flood stage there is 18, moderate flood stage is 20
probably need at least 20 before any issues at the mall 10/2/2015 1:42:28 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
thanks for summarizing the webpage linked in the OP.
[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM. Reason : warfgarbl. wonder if the image will update in hotlink...] 10/2/2015 1:42:54 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11092 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]
10/2/2015 2:09:17 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
yep, it updates. 10/2/2015 3:02:48 PM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
Weak 5/5/2016 1:17:21 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
GIVE US TEH FLOOD 5/5/2016 1:24:47 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
So flood stage (18ft) seems a bit more than normal mall flooding is seen. So whats a normal value that the whole area is under water? 5/5/2016 1:28:12 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Flood Stage - An established gage height for a given location above which a rise in water surface level begins to create a hazard to lives, property, or commerce. The issuance of flood (or in some cases flash flood) warnings is linked to flood stage. Not necessarily the same as bankfull stage." |
5/5/2016 1:29:25 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
OK so maybe they have bad data as I know the mall has flooded multiple times but theyve only once in the last 10 years listed as above flood stage. Hense my confusion. 5/5/2016 1:59:49 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Your malls are fine. 5/5/2016 2:04:36 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "24 ft. GLENWOOD AVENUE BECOMES IMPASSABLE 23 ft. THE HIGHWAY 70 BRIDGE FLOODS. TRAVEL ON GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE AREA AROUND CRABTREE VALLEY MALL IS SEVERELY HAMPERED. 22 ft. GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE LOWER LEVEL MALL PARKING LOT AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL FLOODS. 20 ft. MOST PARKING LOTS AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL FLOOD, INCLUDING THE SHELL GAS STATION. 18 ft. WATER ENTERS THE LOWER ENTRANCE TO MACYS DEPARTMENT STORE. 14 ft. WATER COVERS THE LOWER PARKING LOT AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL." |
5/5/2016 2:38:43 PM |
afripino All American 11433 Posts user info edit post |
my jerb's parking lot floods when this happens. shit's stupid. 5/5/2016 2:41:52 PM |
GreatGazoo All American 715 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TRAVEL ON GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE AREA AROUND CRABTREE VALLEY MALL IS SEVERELY HAMPERED." |
Isn't that more-or-less the case 24/7?5/5/2016 3:58:44 PM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
7/17/2016 3:29:15 AM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 17, 2016 at 6:37 AM. Reason : r]
7/17/2016 6:35:12 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Haven't seen this for yrs. 7/17/2016 6:38:13 AM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
Its been a few years but not that long. 7/17/2016 11:30:25 AM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
1996, 2006, 2016
seems to be about every 10 years... 7/17/2016 11:48:48 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
why would you park down there when its raining 7/17/2016 11:58:27 AM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
in 96 and 06 it was tropical storms so yeah you would have to a dumbass but this time it was just freak 6 inches of rain out of nowhere 7/17/2016 12:02:25 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
http://fris.nc.gov/fris_hardfiles/nc/hardfiles/DFIRM/183/DFIRM_NC_3720079600J.pdf 7/17/2016 12:55:42 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
is the mall itself flooded too? 7/17/2016 1:57:40 PM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say it was "out of nowhere". There was talk about a storm dumping a serious amount of rain on Saturday within the last few days. 7/17/2016 2:36:03 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6602 Posts user info edit post |
The entirety of the local water resource/engineering community licks it lips at the prospect of the City of Raleigh giving enough of a damn to mitigate the Crabtree nightmare........ Gotta pay for Dorothea Dix first tho 7/17/2016 5:56:38 PM |
afripino All American 11433 Posts user info edit post |
Just got the email about my jerb's parking lot. Shits flooded as fuck. Pics to come.... 7/17/2016 9:12:16 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2266 Posts user info edit post |
It reached moderate flood levels the other night. The record is another 7 feet higher than that (occurred in 1973).
7/18/2016 9:55:45 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
I got some good footage on facebook live. Not sure how to post it. It defintely smelled like fuel under there and all the car alarms were going off as the water was frying the electronics in all the cars. 7/18/2016 10:32:07 AM |
Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
crabtree VALLEY mall. i mean the built it in a flood plain because it was flat land and cheap. and i'm assuming they got a good deal with the flood insurance company. 7/18/2016 12:06:35 PM |
afripino All American 11433 Posts user info edit post |
took 2 pics: https://imgur.com/a/yIFom
and that was AFTER they scraped most of the mud off starting at 5 AM. 7/18/2016 2:27:05 PM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
It also flooded in 2003 or 2004. Wasn't a tropical storm or anything. Just some ridiculous rain.
My car was one of the casualties. I parked in the deck around 4pm to go to work one day (worked at the mall) and came back to my car around midnight and there was mud up to my car seat inside and out....that wasn't fun to deal with.
[Edited on July 18, 2016 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .] 7/18/2016 3:15:20 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "crabtree VALLEY mall. i mean the built it in a flood plain because it was flat land and cheap. and i'm assuming they got a good deal with the flood insurance company." |
they also say that there was little development in the area then, since there has been so much more impervious surface in the area there is more runoff..more runoff = worse flooding7/18/2016 5:36:31 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6602 Posts user info edit post |
Yea you wouldn't be able to build Crabtree Valley in its current location and elevation today. Wiki is telling me it was built in 1972 (seriously?). I don't think the National Flood Insurance Program got the teeth it needed to disincentivize floodplain construction until a few years later, therefore it is probably grandfathered into the program, meaning subsidized flood insurance rates. As I posted above the city/mall could mitigate the problem significantly but it would be expensive as fuck (flood studies + an ass ton of grading and soil disposal + moving that road behind the mall and probably improving the bridges over the creek).
[Edited on July 18, 2016 at 6:38 PM. Reason : ^higher runoff and ditching the creek also likely playing a role] 7/18/2016 6:37:30 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
Saw one of those pictures above on the national news yesterday 7/18/2016 7:49:59 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
I heard the water rose 14 feet in 20 minutes 7/18/2016 11:24:07 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
So lets see if this happens again tonight. Good risk of it and with waterlevels still high... 7/19/2016 10:59:03 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
It's gone rain? 7/19/2016 2:13:01 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
ha, peoples breaking out FIRMs 7/19/2016 6:17:02 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
ALLMALLSMATTER 7/19/2016 6:34:46 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2266 Posts user info edit post |
Yes Crabtree rises extremely quickly when heavy rains hit. It also falls quickly after it crests. 7/20/2016 8:20:12 AM |
beatsunc All American 10754 Posts user info edit post |
9/1/2016 2:01:36 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Someone is gonna get dumped on when all is said and done just a matter of where the band that is gonna form sets up. 9/1/2016 2:02:34 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was the shooting thread. 9/1/2016 2:09:46 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Craptree? it's the best mall in Raleigh by far. Probably one of the best in the state. 9/1/2016 2:13:25 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Cary Town Center and South Point mall are also excellent. Not to say South Park and Concord Mills in Charlotte. 9/1/2016 2:19:39 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
Its begun:
Quote : | " wralweather: RT @alamb: .@WRAL Sign @CrabtreeValley1 warns shoppers about potential #hurricanehermine flooding. #WRAL https://t.co/k2ldHhl1Rw" |
9/2/2016 11:08:59 AM |