Faculty and students protest....nobody cares
Football team protests...HOLY SHIT DO WHATEVER THEY SAY

Nothing has really been accomplished when minorities needed 2 million dollars of immediate economic influence to have their voices heard

11/9/2015 8:13:14 PM

The whole mizzou situation strikes me as very odd. I have several family members who are alumni, 2 of them graduated last year. This is the first time I've ever heard of anything racially charged in Columbia. It's a pretty liberal school and Columbia is a pretty liberal town.

What's more, I'm not sure what the university president was supposed to do about the incidents that sparked this stuff. Someone having a racial slur yelled at them from a pasing car, a shit swastika draw on a dorm wall (I'm a bit suspicious about that one), and some other stuff that frankly the university president couldn't have done a damn thing to prevent. He's basically been forced to resign as a sacrificial lamb to hopefully quell some of the anger that is still brewing over Ferguson. There are a lot of students there from St. Louis, so I get the anger and the connection, but this whole thing seems more than just a bit off the wall.

11/9/2015 9:05:51 PM

I think you missed his response to being asked about systemic oppression. He was criticized before that for his lack of response to those incidents. That is what set the ball in motion to have him replaced.

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"This is the first time I've ever heard of anything racially charged in Columbia."

cmon. Its missouri.

11/9/2015 9:23:20 PM

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"It's a pretty liberal school and Columbia is a pretty liberal town."

plenty of racism out there, regardless of the political lean of the city

I mean.... Boston.

11/9/2015 9:26:01 PM

good read about everything http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/11/9/9695416/missouri-university-football-tim-wolfe-strike

11/9/2015 9:28:34 PM

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"cmon. Its missouri."

Ehhh, it's a lot less racist than most places. Honestly, outside of St. Louis and some super redneck areas of the ozarks it's not a racist state. I lived there for the first 11 years of my life. I had never even heard the word nigger until I moved to North Carolina.

I understand, student groups wanted a response, but I'm not sure what he could have done that would have been satisfactory.

The atmosphere on college campuses today is insane. Between the whole safe space movement, no platforming speakers, and trying to chill the speech of professors, it's all backwards. Students are supposed to be the ones who are pushing boundaries, not asking for the administration to be more paternal and protect them from uncomfortable things. This generation of human beings worries me greatly.

11/9/2015 9:31:07 PM

Wait, creating a safe learning environment worries you?

Boundaries can be pushed without harming people for being different.

11/9/2015 9:34:09 PM

No, the idea that main stream discussion of topics are so dangerous that they shouldn't be allowed on campus worries me.

The chilling effects on speech that an environment like that creates worries me.

The idea that having some feminist speaker on campus who doesn't believe that all drunk sex is automatically rape is not something that should be excluded from a campus.

Honestly, it seems like every student should be issued a fainting couch and their very own human sized gerbil ball.

Whatever happened to the idea of challenging ideas and healthy debate being part of the learning experience?



[Edited on November 9, 2015 at 9:42 PM. Reason : harm?]

11/9/2015 9:41:56 PM

in college i liked rage against the machine, public enemy, dead prez etc

nowadays its whip nae nae and drake and other stuff that produces a bunch of bitch ass kids

11/9/2015 10:02:06 PM

TT gets it

11/9/2015 10:03:56 PM

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"s who are pushing boundaries, not asking for the administration to be more paternal and protect them from uncomfortable things. This generation of human beings worries me greatly"

Turning into a younger generation of pussies.

11/9/2015 10:08:34 PM

+1 Bonus for using a gender insensitive term to describe your insensitive views

11/9/2015 10:10:40 PM

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"gender insensitive term"

this faggy phrase is a product of the Drake generation

don't call me out for using the word "faggy", best course of action is to guilt-trip qntmfred's resignation for allowing you to see it


[Edited on November 9, 2015 at 10:16 PM. Reason : the Drake generation way]

11/9/2015 10:12:02 PM

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"+1 Bonus for using a gender insensitive term to describe your insensitive views"

Why does "pussy" have to be confined to a gender? My gender is fluid, maybe I identify as a penis-pussy hybrid and am offended by both terms when referenced as a derogatory statement? You cis-gendered bigot scum.

See how liberalism will doom us all? Pussies

11/9/2015 10:16:47 PM

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"Someone having a racial slur yelled at them from a pasing car, a shit swastika draw on a dorm wall (I'm a bit suspicious about that one)"

I have a feeling the shit swastika is just another in the long list of hate crime hoaxes.

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"and some other stuff that frankly the university president couldn't have done a damn thing to prevent."

Don't forget, a bunch of protesters surrounded his car during a parade and he refused to get out and talk to them, that apparently was a grave injustice on his part.

One thing that gets mentioned quite frequently is that a little while ago he cut grad student benefits. I'm thinking a string of vague "he's not doing enough about racism" accusations was just what the doctor ordered to make him pay for that.

[Edited on November 9, 2015 at 10:49 PM. Reason : ...]

11/9/2015 10:48:09 PM

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"+1 Bonus for using a gender insensitive term to describe your insensitive"

I'll accept this label with pride if my comments really make me this

11/9/2015 10:56:55 PM

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"See how liberalism will doom us all?"

not really. care to explain?

11/10/2015 1:05:19 AM

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"Faculty and students protest....nobody cares Football team protests...HOLY SHIT DO WHATEVER THEY SAY Nothing has really been accomplished when minorities needed 2 million dollars of immediate economic influence to have their voices heard "

The conspiracy theorist in me says this had more to do with some dispute between the athletic dept and the university pres, than issues of racism on the campus. I only read a single news article and a bunch of invective on reddit, and I couldn't figure out what the players were made about.

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"I have a feeling the shit swastika is just another in the long list of hate crime hoaxes. "

... which is still a list far shorter than hate crimes that actually happened, especially since 9/11.

11/10/2015 1:29:11 AM

[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 8:22 AM. Reason : i wouldn't be too surprised of the venn diagrams of swastika users and shit drawers overlap]

11/10/2015 8:19:31 AM

The big question is had the football team been having a good season, say playing for the SEC East title, would this have still happened? I guarantee you the answer is no. Sure is a lot easier to take a stand when your season is already over.

11/10/2015 8:21:25 AM

no media
safe space

11/10/2015 9:02:32 AM

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"The big question is had the football team been having a good season, say playing for the SEC East title, would this have still happened? I guarantee you the answer is no. Sure is a lot easier to take a stand when your season is already over."

you may be right...but there's no point in discussing that hypothetical considering the players actually did do this. so, imo, that's hardly "the big question"

11/10/2015 9:11:17 AM

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"He's basically been forced to resign as a sacrificial lamb to hopefully quell some of the anger that is still brewing over Ferguson."

This is what happens when you teach some of the most privileged people on the planet that they are constantly and unfairly victimized by their institutions.

The institution has to do anything to appease the lynch mob of outrage culture. Claim victimhood, spread a hashtag, take out a scapegoat or 2, and pat yourself on the back.

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"... which is still a list far shorter than hate crimes that actually happened, especially since 9/11."

Just like all of those American mosques being burned, right moron? That epidemic of Islamaphobia that didn't exist but you thought it did.

11/10/2015 9:51:58 AM

his statement about oppression is what did him in, no way to recover from that

11/10/2015 10:42:27 AM

warms my heart to see a bunch of the Drunk Uncles on this board be drawn to the same thread

11/10/2015 10:46:05 AM

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"The Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson offered, “There are a lot of African-American students and other minorities who feel for whatever reason that the campus was not made to be a friendly, accepting, and supportive place.” “But whats are those reasons? What are the specifics? I’ve been reading since this photograph was taken, looking for specifics of systemic actions that have made students feel exclusive,” said Scarborough. The photograph that Scarborough referenced features the entire Mizzou football team locked arm-in-arm that was Tweeted from head coach Gary Pinkel. “I don’t know what those specifics are,” admitted Robinson. Scarborough interrupted to fire back, “Isn’t that troubling Gene, that you don’t know? A Pulitzer Prize winner? This guy is run out as President of the University because the football team said ‘we’re not gonna play’. And neither you nor I reading these articles know what he did to invoke this type of response. Is this a complete failure on the national media to report?” Scarborough wouldn’t relent, asking again, “What was the fireable offense from this President specifically?”. "

11/10/2015 11:03:15 AM

the protesters kicked out the media (a member of the faculty even assaulted a photographer) because of "safe space"

11/10/2015 11:10:50 AM

TreeTwista10 said:

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"this faggy phrase is a product of the Drake generation don't call me out for using the word "faggy", best course of action is to guilt-trip qntmfred's resignation for allowing you to see it"

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11/10/2015 11:13:18 AM

Woman Calling for "Muscle" To Block Reporter From Mizzou Demonstrations Is a Professor of Mass Media
http://gawker.com/professor-of-mass-media-seen-calling-for-muscle-to-bl-1741597776

11/10/2015 11:13:53 AM

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"he demonstrations followed a boycott by the university’s football team in reaction to the school’s lack of response to a series of racist incidents on campus. One student went on an eight-day hunger strike, demanding the president to step down."

What were these "racist" issues. I hope it was something with more substance than the infamous TP noose

http://www.wral.com/toilet-paper-noose-found-at-n-c-state/2019858/

11/10/2015 11:33:14 AM

It seems the faculty wanted the president out, and the race card, the ultimate weapon, was used as a matter of last resort, despite having no substance behind the accusations.

11/10/2015 11:39:55 AM

The "Race Card" has turned into the modern "Think of the Children" trump card. If you argue that something wasn't racist or someones actions were NOT a result of racist thoughts then you are being racist and insensitive.

Just like how MADD and "Christian" parents growing up and still today lash out with the "Think of the Children" whenever they are fighting against something that they don't agree with but lack a logical argument. If you argue against them you obviously don't care or hate children.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/us/missouri-football-players-protest-presidents-resigns/index.html

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"Asked if he had ever encountered racism on campus, he pointed to a 2010 incident when white students scattered cotton balls outside the Black Culture Center. Washington didn't have particularly harsh words for Wolfe but said there was sense that he took "a lackadaisical approach to get things fixed. ... I think just turned a blind eye to it.""

LOL
I guess it's not TOO late for NCSU students to shut down Raleigh over the TP noose in 2007 creating an inhospitable environment.

The other example I was able to take from the article was some drunk douche shouting a racial remark during some African-American Homecoming meeting.

If these are symbols of oppression then I guessed this country is fucked

[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 11:49 AM. Reason : a]

11/10/2015 11:43:14 AM

http://www.themaneater.com/special-sections/mu-fall-2015/

So after reading this, I'm not sure where the narrative that this is "about Ferguson" came from. Seems like several other administrators and political figures had lost faith in Wolfe, including a group of faculty, for a myriad of issues. The people protesting about racism were just the icing, causing a disruption on campus, and then the football players were what finally made Wolfe step down.

Of these same events had happened at any University over such a short period, I'd think there wouldn't need to be protests to get someone fired, it would have just happened.

As an aside, even though Thomas Jefferson was a rapist and slave owner, it's dumb to remove a statue of him on this basis, someone needs to talk to those students.

11/10/2015 11:55:12 AM

I want the Columbia River renamed. Christopher Columbus was a slaver, rapist, murderer, and exploiter. It offends me that a whole fucking river down the street from me is dedicated in his honor.

11/10/2015 11:58:47 AM

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"like all of those American mosques being burned, right moron? That epidemic of Islamaphobia that didn't exist but you thought it did. "

Huh? There was a surge in mosque vandalism after 9/11 that hasn't dropped to pre 9/11 levels, and there were at least a few arsons in America and a rash in Europe. You'd have to be pretty delusional (which it's well established you are) to think there's not a lot of people who have a prejudiced fear of Muslims which manifests as hate crimes, vandalism, and GOP presidential candidates.

11/10/2015 12:03:34 PM

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"Honestly, it seems like every student should be issued a fainting couch and their very own human sized gerbil ball."

11/10/2015 12:43:15 PM

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"It's a pretty liberal school and Columbia is a pretty liberal town."

Uh you do understand that liberals are extremely more racist than any typical conservative.

11/10/2015 2:55:49 PM

Are they? I've never seen studies but that seems a dubious statement. I don't think racism aligns along party lines.

Are we confusing ideology and political affiliation again like we do all the time with old southern Democrats?

11/10/2015 3:02:17 PM

I've always heard older black alums say that Chapel Hill was really racist but I always dismissed their claims as "its still the south but they have no idea how bad it could be at a place like state" . Its also funny because liberal whites usually have equality in mind while southern blacks are usually ultra conservative and don't support economic equality even though they want racial equality.

11/10/2015 3:08:21 PM

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"I don't think racism aligns along party lines."

Maybe you don't think it, but you make others do to win elections.

11/10/2015 4:25:24 PM

Soooo, the Mizzou campus police have told students they should call them to report hateful/hurtful speech now.

I can't see how this could possibly go wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/11/10/missouri-u-police-call-us-about-harmful-or-hurtful-speech/

Congratulations, SJWs, you're quickly working your way to full Robespierre status.

[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 6:17 PM. Reason : sdfsdf]

11/10/2015 6:10:11 PM

That girl said I was lame and she didn't want to sleep with me. I consider that hateful and it hurt my feelings. She should be punished. I know it's not the same but that's what this world is coming to with how things are going.

11/10/2015 6:16:51 PM

People who don't know anything about what they are talking about sitting back in the shelter of their privilege complaining about how soft the oppressed are.

11/10/2015 6:30:28 PM

Oh lordy, I just read some interesting stuff about the poop swastika and the hunger strike grad student.

No evidence exist that poop swastika even happened (no photos, no eye witnesses named, no RAs at the dorm it allegedly happened ever saw it, etc.). Yes, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but you'd think somebody would have documented it since it was allegedly a racially motivated act of vandalism.

Hunger strike guy comes from a family worth well over $20 million. His dad made over $7 million last year.

This is all starting to drift further into the realm of the absurd.

11/10/2015 6:55:53 PM

You haven't seen the video tape of the president blaming the oppressed? That was enough to have him gone. /thread

11/10/2015 7:00:12 PM

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/officerProfile?symbol=UNP&officerId=1701329


Poppa bear took home 8.4MM last year. Not bad granted almost 5MM are RSU's

11/10/2015 7:17:01 PM

^^Nope, I haven't. Got a link to the video? I'd be interested to hear what he actually said.

11/10/2015 7:20:50 PM

^I watched it a few days ago and knew he'd be resigning. It was stupid comment.

https://twitter.com/Qiana_Jade/status/662835008516849668


[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 7:38 PM. Reason : vid]

11/10/2015 7:22:23 PM

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"This is all starting to drift further into the realm of the absurd."

The whole Ferguson thing was absurd....

Do they put crazy juice in the water in MO?

11/10/2015 7:33:43 PM

So much oppression. A vague reference to some drunk person yelling something mean to someone at some point, and someone writing an anti-semitic symbol with their feces in a bathroom.

These poor college students overcame so much oppression bravely tweeting things on Twitter. Rosa parks, Dr. King, and Harriet Tubman don't even know what adversity is in comparison.

Who shall the outrage culture lynch mob target next! Hey you! I heard someone say the N-word 20 years ago, WHERE WERE YOU THEN BIGOT? Hunger strike until you kill yourself.

11/10/2015 7:45:25 PM