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DROD900
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^this

Well, I'm kinda drunk and posting on my phone, soooo you'll have to flip back a page to see the reference

[Edited on December 25, 2016 at 1:44 PM. Reason : Wdg]

12/25/2016 1:43:28 PM

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Mike and Mike this morning talking about rams trading for a coach with rivera's name out there. I'd be all over that if I'm the panthers

12/27/2016 9:38:14 AM

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Do the Rams have any good OTs? Otherwise it's hard to trade a coach who won coach of the year twice in three years

12/27/2016 10:05:55 AM

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Rams offensive line is horrible

12/27/2016 10:42:47 AM

hey now
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I've seen several mocks having us getting Fournette.

12/27/2016 11:34:04 AM

Jrb599
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I Get JStew is old, but we really need Oline help.

12/27/2016 12:22:44 PM

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yup. we can't keep ignoring the problems at OL. the patchwork OL just isn't sustainable when it comes to building a franchise and protecting your MVP winning QB. we skated by for a few years with that approach...patchwork, veteran journeyman OL and a similar approach in the secondary. it caught up to us this year.

12/27/2016 12:53:07 PM

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Rams offensive line is garbage + Rams have no first round pick = Panthers would be morons to trade a good head coach to them.

12/27/2016 2:56:59 PM

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Looks like we finally avoid Seattle next year....but have the patriots on the road

12/27/2016 6:26:23 PM

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We desperately need an OT, but the problem with our top 10 pick this year is that this might be the worst OL draft class in the last 4-5 years. I'm sure guys will shoot up the draft board because of need, but so far only 1 OT in the top 15 and even he isn't considered a slam-dunk LT.

Sad to think how bad losing freaking Michael Oher derailed our season.

12/28/2016 8:59:26 AM

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Since there's no top 10 OT in this year draft, I'd prefer a safety or RB in first round. Somebody like Adams from LSU or Fournette/Dalvin Cook would be ideal.

12/28/2016 10:28:38 AM

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I don't watch much CFB and do almost zero player evaluation when I do so i don't have any firm feelings on these guys but based on needs these are the guys I think will be mocked to us, howe likely I think DG would be to pick them, and my loose initial pre combine opinions

1) Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama.
- Very likely if still available, DG LOVES his hog mollies and OT is clearly a position of need
- Love it. We need OT badly and it's a relatively cheap way to address the position.

2) Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama.
- Low likelihood. I feel like DG thinks he can draft a lower round CB and add some reclamation projects
- I am not a fan of drafting CBs in the 1st round. Same philosophy as DG here. Bust probability too high

3) Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan.
- Medium-high likelihood. DG likes reclamation projects at S but last year was a disaster and he has ST value
- I'd be happy with the pick he seems like a high impact player at a position of need.

4) Jamal Adams, S, LSU.
- Medium likelihood. Same as above, more well rounded with less speed. DG leans toward Peppers TO potential
- If DG drafts him I'm down with the pick. If he grades out well rounded he will be useful.

5) Trading Down
- Medium likelihood. We already have an extra 3rd rd pk and DG might feel like it's an opportunity to add depth
- Nah. We need more elite talent. Trading down is better for a rebuild. I'd rather add reclamation FAs for depth

6) Trading Up
- Low likelihood. Not DG's style and no one on except maybe Robinson (Fournette?) I think he'd do it for
- If DG makes the move for Robinson I'm in favor of it as I'll assume he has graded out extremely well.








7) Another fucking DT!



(I could actually see him doing this as a backup plan if we cant sign Kawann Short

[Edited on December 28, 2016 at 11:58 AM. Reason : A]

12/28/2016 11:52:55 AM

JP
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looks like the pick will fall between 9-15, depending on how they fare this weekend

12/28/2016 12:06:31 PM

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Going to be very disappointed if we aren't in full tank mode this weekend.

Fournette or Robinson would likely be our 1st round pick.

WR and DT would annoy me some in the 1st but neither would shock me.

Peppers in the 1st would be an AWFUL pick. He's getting such mixed reviews from NFL scouts including some awful reviews. Seems like a guy that fits multiple positions but likely won't impact any 1 position his first year in the league. Not sure we really need a project with a top 10 pick.

[Edited on December 28, 2016 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

12/28/2016 12:55:54 PM

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I think Peppers is the most overhyped player in the country. And I loved the Shaq Thompson pick (and the Thomas Davis pick when that one happened). If he can gain 40+ pounds he'll be a decent OLB, but if not he'll be a average or worse safety.

I'd rather the Panthers look at Adams from LSU if they're gonna take a safety. But there and OL are where I'd guess the panthers would be looking hardest in the first round. (unless something crazy like garrett or allen falling happens.)

It wouldn't surprise me to see them take a corner in the 2nd round again. It's a very good group of corners and a guy like Tankersly from Clemson could be there.

12/28/2016 4:27:51 PM

Shrike
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This game so far looks like a battle of two teams that desperately want to lose.

1/1/2017 1:49:10 PM

StingrayRush
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Cam just isn't right. No reason whatsoever to keep him in there

1/1/2017 3:29:51 PM

cptinsano
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He's throwing for draft picks

1/1/2017 3:32:03 PM

ncstatetke
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I still can't believe you guys are sticking with Gano. there are lots of quality free agent kickers out there

1/1/2017 3:49:54 PM

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He gained us 2-3 spots in the draft

1/1/2017 4:19:26 PM

JP
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Locked in to Pick #8

1/1/2017 7:24:53 PM

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About the only positive I'd take away from this season is the secondary did get much better. We're younger and much more skilled at the corner position than we were a year ago. Still need a second safety that's worth a damn as Tre Boston is just terrible, but overall, we're trending up back there.

Overall, I'm willing to give the front office, coaching staff, and Cam a mulligan on this season. A lot of things caught up to us, especially our neglect of the offensive line and Cam's play style getting him injured. I still think Rivera is just ok and Shula is below average, but I don't think blowing it all up is worth the risk. We could do a lot worst.

[Edited on January 2, 2017 at 11:47 AM. Reason : .]

1/2/2017 11:42:55 AM

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Gettleman made a huge blunder though. I don't get why he gets all blustery acting like he's smarter than everyone else by letting Josh Norman go in his prime... then turning around and signing Kalil and oher who are injury prone and borderline washed up to disastrous extensions with the savings.

We knew we needed to address the oline but now we have much less cap space to do so

1/2/2017 1:28:38 PM

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Also I like Short's statement about being agreeable to the franchise tag.

It would pay him about $14m and it's pretty obviously the best option for us so let's hope Gettleman doesn't screw this one up

1/2/2017 1:50:53 PM

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Man, as badly as we need a tackle, if Malik Hooker is available at 8 ........ generational talent at safety.

[Edited on January 2, 2017 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2017 4:58:07 PM

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Well Short said he'd take the franchise tag but then back-tracked with what his agent said.

Sounds like he'll take his time on signing that but at least it's apparent he wants to be here next year. Just hope we can come to agreeable terms for both sides because I hate investing that much into a DT.

1/3/2017 8:54:22 AM

JP
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^^perfectly content at taking BPA (minus QBs of course)

1/3/2017 9:42:11 AM

LudaChris
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Hooker declaring for the draft changes up the top 10.

I'd be happy with Hooker or Adams with our first pick but doubt Hooker slides.

1/3/2017 11:07:26 AM

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Fournette should be the pick if he's there. He's Bo Jackson/Tecmo Bowl-level good when healthy. Just absolutely vicious combo of power and speed.

If he's not there, gotta think we go with one of the big 3 safeties -- Peppers, Hooker, or Allen. Really need a SS so we can slide Coleman back to FS


[Edited on January 3, 2017 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ]

1/3/2017 12:45:18 PM

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I wonder if we'll be able to afford Mario Williams now that the Dolphins are releasing him. Coming off of career low numbers - could be a bargain!

1/3/2017 12:45:41 PM

LudaChris
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^^I won't nothing to do with Peppers but would love the other 2 with our first pick.

^Meh. Mario is on cruise control just getting paid. We'd have to get him dirt cheap to make it worth the investment given how poorly he's played the last year or two.

1/3/2017 1:42:35 PM

Jrb599
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I've read nothing about Fournette's pass blocking - but that's going to be huge for the Panthers.

1/3/2017 1:59:39 PM

JP
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welp, who's the next DC?

1/11/2017 3:40:16 PM

sgb
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Pro Football Rumors say our secondary coach might take over. Steve Wilks

1/11/2017 3:44:59 PM

TreeTwista10
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Thomas Davis is 33 years old. James Harrison is still playing at 38 years old. Wonder how long old TD can do it.

1/15/2017 11:24:40 PM

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So proehl is stepping down. Kinda sucks

1/17/2017 9:44:29 PM

LudaChris
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I like Proehl but I'm not broken up over losing him. I haven't really seen our WRs making huge strides on improving year to year.

1/18/2017 6:57:50 AM

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[Edited on January 18, 2017 at 9:32 PM. Reason : wt]

1/18/2017 9:32:28 PM

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article127968154.html

#IwasaStingfananyways

1/21/2017 10:26:11 PM

nOOb
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Can I rant?

Falcon about to win the Super Bowl. Whole team is legit. I can't stand it
That means I have watched every team in NFC south win a ring but the team I fucking root for! The year after we lost and in a year where we were terrible.
The panthers last year went against an all time NFL top defense. The falcons aren't even seeing anything close that.

I still don't know who was Cam was passing it to last year. Matt Ryan has fucking H Jones who is better than all Carolina receivers ever

God I hope I'm trolled if the falcons lose.

1/22/2017 6:22:51 PM

Jrb599
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Could not agree more - I hope they get blown up.

1/22/2017 6:33:27 PM

LudaChris
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Who the fuck is "H Jones"? Are you talking about 1st round WR Julio Jones? Yeah, he's better than any Panther WR in history, but he's probably going to end up one of the best WRs of all-time if he can stay healthy, so that's not shocking, when is the last time we took the #1 WR in the draft with a top 10 pick?

Falcons hit a hot streak with FAs and draft picks. It reminds me of the Seahawks(Quinn was a great hire), but there window is 2-3 years to be dominant on offense. Freeman, Coleman, and Gabriel were great non-1st round picks Then they still have Beasley on his rookie deal too and he's turned out to be a great pass rusher.

The real key here though has been fixing their OL with high draft picks, key veterans, and a really nice UDFA pick-up. Picking up Levitre for a 6th round pick, picking up veteran Chris Chester last year from the Skins helped, and signing Alex Mack were all huge moves that solidified a group that frankly cost them the playoffs last year. Jake Matthew was a 1st round pick that is now playing like it. Schraeder was a UDFA that has been grading out as a top 10 RT on PFF.

Falcons have 29.6 million of their cap invested in their starting OL this season.
Panthers have 19.3 million of their cap invested in their starting OL this season.

Falcons have been really lucky with injuries this season, Panthers were decimated along the OL.

If we start investing in OL and staying healthy, we'll be fine.

1/23/2017 7:44:25 AM

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hoolio jones

1/23/2017 8:25:27 AM

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What is worse is I have to root for the Falcons now because fuck New England.

1/23/2017 8:57:50 AM

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i hope Matt Ryan falls on his face and Brady wins another one.

1/23/2017 9:22:26 AM

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Quote :
"when is the last time we took the #1 WR in the draft with a top 10 pick?"


the panthers have only ever taken 2 WRs in the first round, the highest being Rae Carruth.

1/23/2017 9:55:11 AM

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So the 3 finalists for the Walter Payton man of the year were Olsen, Larry Fitzgerald and Eli Manning. The winner was a tie between Eli and Fitz.

2/4/2017 9:56:05 PM

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KEEP POUNDING.

BURN FALCONS. YAYAYAYYAY

2/5/2017 10:33:33 PM

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