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dtownral
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you're spare parts, bud

8/7/2018 10:08:31 PM

rjrumfel
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I think you guys are reading way to much into my exposition there.

Bottom line - will the money that I'm saving by not paying for a high monthly premium be equally paid in more taxes to cover single-payer?

That's basically what I'm worried about.

Because once we fire the single-payer bullet, there's no getting it back in the barrel.

8/8/2018 2:15:00 PM

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Fun facts going by 2016 numbers:

UK
Spending/capita: 4,192
Life Expectancy: 81.60

Canada
Spending/capita: 4,753
Life Expectancy: 82.14

Spain
Spending/capita: 3,248
Life Expectancy: 83.38

US
Spending/capita: 9,892
Life Expectancy: 78.74

We spend 2-3x the amount of these countries on healthcare and our lifespan is ~3-5 years shorter. The only way you would pay more is if your employer rips you off and doesn't compensate you for the difference they are saving, and that is an entirely different issue that should be tackled as well.

[Edited on August 8, 2018 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .]

8/8/2018 2:35:48 PM

qntmfred
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bump

11/4/2019 1:47:23 PM

dtownral
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4682193/nancy-pelosi-single-payer-health-care

nancy pelosi - a staunch and ardent supporter of single payer

11/4/2019 2:37:48 PM

CaelNCSU
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Can the fattest nation on earth afford single payer?

11/4/2019 3:14:42 PM

horosho
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^^Fuck pelosi and the party of the rich. What kind of party selects the representative from one of the richest districts in the country to lead the legislature? The question is rhetorical.
https://townhall.com/columnists/terryjeffrey/2018/12/27/party-of-the-rich-democrats-hold-the-20-wealthiest-congressional-districts-n2538070

11/4/2019 10:55:40 PM

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[user]qtmnfred[/user]

Quote :
"I'm in favor of moving toward single-payer. it's just a matter of how you do it. Do you do it by force of regulation and throw 18% of the national economy into the air and flip it upside down all at once? You can, but it'll be tricky as hell to pull off. I'm open to hearing other proposals."


Here's the official bill's transition plan: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1129/text#toc-idD70BBE26B3BB4C33B4B2511E72BE03C1

It establishes a buy-in period that reduces the qualifying age by 10 each year of the plan over 4 years total.

11/5/2019 11:13:16 AM

LoneSnark
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I'm all for government run healthcare. Those that make the rules driving up costs should be the ones paying those costs. Maybe then we can find some way to allow rules that reduce costs.

11/10/2019 8:32:01 PM

rwoody
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Oklahoma approves Medicaid expansion. Just another example of the Dem party being taken over by the socialist left!!!!!

7/1/2020 10:54:33 AM

TerdFerguson
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So sad that NC can’t seem to join the fucking 21st century.

[Edited on July 1, 2020 at 11:11 AM. Reason : Mother fucking Oklahoma got there before we did. Sad.]

7/1/2020 11:10:46 AM

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