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A Tanzarian
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^^^ Overheard in a restaurant last night:

Trump wants to help Pelosi so he has leverage to secure funding for the wall.

The same people were happy to see Ryan gone because he was beholden to the Chamber of Commerce and globalists.

11/18/2018 1:23:07 PM

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"Fox news/Republicans would have to spend airtime to build up some other democrat to fear"


They are terrified of AOC. They wouldn't spend so much time trying to tear her down now if they didn't fear her future. If they had ignored her I think she'd only have a couple of terms before losing to a primary challenger, but now her name recognition has made her into one of the best fundraisers the party is likely to see for the next 4 years.

11/18/2018 11:10:38 PM

marko
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Yeah Ocasio-Cortez is definitely their newest boogieman.

11/19/2018 10:56:35 AM

Shrike
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She is very very good, the perfect attack dog against Trumpian-Republicans. They can't fucking touch her.

11/19/2018 11:19:41 AM

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^ She's the best politician on Instagram too by a HUGE margin

Trump dominated Twitter and Facebook during the 2016 election, but young people aren't really on those platforms

11/19/2018 11:47:37 AM

Bullet
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The 42 most eye-popping lines from Donald Trump's 'Fox News Sunday' interview

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/politics/donald-trump-chris-wallace-interview/index.html

11/19/2018 12:05:17 PM

nacstate
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Some of these..

11/19/2018 2:07:30 PM

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"She is very very good, the perfect attack dog against Trumpian-Republicans. They can't fucking touch her."


Are you finally coming around to the idea that going left is the best defense against the hard-right? Or are you going to strategically try to get her to fall in line when it comes down to it? The former can work, but the latter is a recipe for disaster.

11/19/2018 6:45:06 PM

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Or is this one of those takes where you reduce her down to her personality and charm and completely gloss over her actual policy positions that make her such an effective force against the reactionary-right wing?

11/19/2018 6:52:21 PM

Shrike
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^

11/19/2018 7:11:02 PM

JesusHChrist
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I'm curious how one of the most ardent defenders of centrist dems squares away the popularity of a left leaning newcomer.

What is it about her that makes her so good, in your opinion?

11/19/2018 7:28:11 PM

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lol when have I ever been a defender of "centrist" Dems? Because I pointed out having 1 Senator from WVU is better than having zero? Because I can count? The fact is that not every part of the country is demographically suited for folks who call themselves socialists.

And I like AOC because she's smart and knows how to play the game, evidenced by her understanding that Nancy Pelosi is a better friend than an enemy. That's what's going to make her a rockstar not her policy proposals, which are basically cut and paste from the current Democrat platform.

11/19/2018 7:38:17 PM

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"That's what's going to make her a rockstar not her policy proposals, which are basically cut and paste from the current Democrat Green Party platform."


http://www.gp.org/green_new_deal

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 7:49 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2018 7:49:19 PM

Shrike
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Hillary Clinton ran on universal health care, raising the minimum wage, debt free college, and massive green energy reforms. You folks practically called her a Republican. I turn the question back on you, why do you like Alexandria ocasio-cortez other than the fact that she's young and pretty?

Also my wife kind of looks like her so if anyone here could be forgiven for liking her just cuz it's me

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:03 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2018 7:57:36 PM

JesusHChrist
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Okay... Glad we cleared that up. For a second there I thought you might have stumbled ass backwards on how to defeat the right.

11/19/2018 8:00:12 PM

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"Hillary Clinton ran on universal health care"


No she didn't. That was Bernie.

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:08 PM. Reason : and obviously AOC]

11/19/2018 8:06:15 PM

Shrike
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No Bernie ran on Medicare for all which was some amorphous ambiguous slogan that never had an actual policy attached to it. Hillary Clinton actually ran on concrete policy proposals that would expand access to healthcare.

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:08 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2018 8:08:01 PM

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"Expanding access to healthcare" is not "universal healthcare"

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:10 PM. Reason : ]

11/19/2018 8:09:24 PM

JesusHChrist
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It would absolutely make sense to learn that your wife looks like Hillary Clinton

11/19/2018 8:09:34 PM

adultswim
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Universal Healthcare
Clinton: Building on the private industry and keeping healthcare tied to employment
Green New Deal: Single Payer

Minimum Wage
Clinton: $12/hr, I think?
Green New Deal: Guaranteed work at an actual living wage

College
Clinton: If you are poor, you're required to work through college to pay your tuition, putting you at a disadvantage based on income. No forgiveness of student loan debt.
Green New Deal: Tuition free college and free pre-school

Green Energy Reforms
I don't even care enough to research Clinton's positions because they're definitely worse like everything else.

Let alone all of the other things you left out. Clinton and the old Democrat guard are trash and comparing Ocasio-Cortez to them makes you look extremely ignorant.

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"No Bernie ran on Medicare for all which was some amorphous ambiguous slogan that never had an actual policy attached to it. Hillary Clinton actually ran on concrete policy proposals that would expand access to healthcare."


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1804/text

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:14 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2018 8:13:08 PM

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" comparing Ocasio-Cortez to them makes you look extremely ignorant."


The word is dishonest. He knows what he's doing.

11/19/2018 8:23:01 PM

Shrike
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Bernie ran on a bill he proposed a year after the election ended? Why do I even bother with you people? I mean all I really have to do is say scoreboard after this past midterms. It wasn't a bunch of Bernie Sanders clones winning all those elections. It was mostly a bunch of moderate Democrats running in purple districts that Hillary carried.

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 8:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2018 8:24:08 PM

adultswim
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"Bernie ran on a bill he proposed a year after the election ended? "


Sorry, I figured I'd link you the most recent iteration. Would you prefer the original 2003 version that has been re-introduced every year since?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/676

11/19/2018 8:30:06 PM

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^^ Tell us more about Hillary's supposed "Universal Healthcare" plan she ran on in 2016.

Lol "scoreboard" damn you are jaded as fuck.

11/19/2018 8:30:43 PM

Shrike
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^https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/

Nah, I'm not jaded. I'm right.

11/19/2018 8:33:32 PM

adultswim
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"universal coverage" is not universal healthcare

11/19/2018 8:38:06 PM

JesusHChrist
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It was mostly bi-partisan dems that won. Not the left

But also the left is the most potent defense against Trump

But the left isn't even more left than Clinton

Who was pragmatic but also radical

Scoreboard.

11/19/2018 8:41:21 PM

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Ok fine maybe he is ignorant.

11/19/2018 8:53:19 PM

Shrike
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^^Correct, politics is complicated.

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/18071700/progressive-democrats-house-midterm-elections-2018

11/19/2018 8:56:14 PM

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"Tell us more about Hillary's supposed "Universal Healthcare" plan she ran on in 2016."


I see no such policy proposal in the link you provided.

11/19/2018 9:00:56 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ivanka-trump-used-a-personal-email-account-to-send-hundreds-of-emails-about-government-business-last-year/2018/11/19/6515d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html?utm_term=.7cf30f4bd96c

Lock....her....up.... AMIRITE??? CROOKED IVANKA!

THIS IS FREAKING HILARIOUS....

Can't wait to her the press question Trump on this one...

[Edited on November 19, 2018 at 10:42 PM. Reason : ...]

11/19/2018 10:39:15 PM

moron
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Email News is dumb. Hopefully people talk more about the only reason we care about email is the GOP witch hunt of Hillary was at a dead end with Benghazi so they pivoted to emails, which was also a dead end but they still were able to make hay out of it and win an election.

11/19/2018 11:58:20 PM

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It would absolutely make sense to learn that your wife looks like Hillary Clinton"

The word ‘handsome’ gets tossed around way too liberally these days

11/20/2018 12:03:16 AM

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I mean it’s funny and hypocritical but no one seriously cared then about the email thing and no one does now. If it wasn’t emails it was Benghazi. If it wasn’t Benghazi it was the Foundation. Etc, etc.

11/20/2018 10:50:15 AM

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I'm not sure what to think about the latest in his war with the press. So now, reporters are only allowed to ask one question before giving up the mic, but, if he allows it, they might be able to ask a follow-up question?

11/20/2018 10:55:59 AM

UJustWait84
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Mike Pence did it too, and nobody cared. Nothing will come of this.

11/20/2018 11:07:28 AM

moron
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I guess our gov is okay with extrajudicial execution of American residents by state sponsors of Islamist terrorists

11/20/2018 6:15:14 PM

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This is from a month ago.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-17/trump-and-kushner-put-saudi-arabia-s-money-ahead-of-khashoggi

11/20/2018 7:11:06 PM

nacstate
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^^ As long as they're buying some weapons from us and keeping oil prices reasonable

11/21/2018 8:21:30 AM

dtownral
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they also buy apartments from Trump, they spend $40 million, $50 million. Is he supposed to dislike them? He likes them very much.

not to mention the whole silencing journalists after they criticize Trump thing

11/21/2018 8:54:11 AM

mkcarter
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Welp. He thanked Saudi Arabia on twitter. I got nothing at this point.

11/21/2018 6:47:30 PM

KeB
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The Mueller Report is going to drop any day now. My guess is the day the report drops, Trump signs an executive order lifting the federal ban on Marijuana.

11/26/2018 12:00:41 AM

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ramped-up-drone-strikes-in-americas-shadow-wars

11/26/2018 9:32:32 AM

NyM410
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The Peace President.

Donald the Dove.

Non-Interventionist Mindset.

11/26/2018 9:40:21 AM

dtownral
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obama fans will hate this

11/26/2018 9:48:01 AM

JesusHChrist
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Border agents launch tear gas at migrants seeking asylum:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2018/11/26/why-tear-gas-lobbed-migrants-southern-border-is-banned-warfare/?utm_term=.0138e0ac1248

11/26/2018 2:05:27 PM

nacstate
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Whiner in chief wants a national news network so he can get "fair" coverage.

I guess Fox news isnt doing a good enough job.

11/26/2018 7:08:45 PM

0EPII1
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^ Tear gas, white phosphorus, and cluster bombs are good when America uses them against unarmed civilians, but bad when other countries* uses them.

* Except of course Israel.

11/27/2018 12:57:34 AM

dtownral
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^^ good to know at least that money isnt the real reason Republicans oppose public broadcasting

11/27/2018 7:31:24 AM

Bullet
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^^^https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-us-should-form-state-run-global-news-network-2018-11

11/27/2018 9:56:46 AM

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