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Shrike
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Yeah, it's a true story. They hired a special prosecutor and everything, spent 6 months investigating potential conflicts of interest in a small family owned peanut farm.

3/10/2017 2:16:18 PM

dtownral
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was it a hot issue because of how corrupt nixon was, or just a run of the mill witch hunt?

3/10/2017 2:46:45 PM

Shrike
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/10/17/inquiry-clears-carter-familys-peanut-business/ca5371c9-f0a7-4809-9b7d-7a57e78b76b0/?utm_term=.3ccf0bd56b3b

3/10/2017 2:57:31 PM

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idk if id consider it a small family farm if theyre taking a $6.5 million loan

still a funny article

3/10/2017 3:08:22 PM

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Remember the guy who claimed Clinton asked Patrick Kennedy to declassify an email post haste in October when the FBI leaks were coming fast and furious? Guy was paid by Flynn around that time.

Flynn was one dirty motherfucker.

https://www.fara.gov/docs/6406-Supplemental-Statement-20170307-1.pdf


[Edited on March 11, 2017 at 7:29 AM. Reason : X]

3/11/2017 7:28:25 AM

dtownral
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Conway said that Obama turned a microwave into a camera to spy on Trump

3/13/2017 12:13:04 PM

moron
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-gets-confronted-in-apple-store-trumps-responds/?utm_term=.eb0b3103b5d1

Spicer is racist to a woman asking him if he's a fascist.

3/13/2017 1:35:02 PM

MONGO
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How was he racist?

I'm by no means a supporter of this administration but I can't imagine aggressively following Spicer/Miller/Conway in public and berate them with questions while filming it.

3/13/2017 3:52:15 PM

moron
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He judged her by her skin color implying she doesn't really belong here. She judged him by her perception of his words and actions.

That's almost the exact definition of racism.

3/13/2017 3:54:56 PM

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Some are saying his response "Such a great country that allows you to be here" is racist.

I haven't actually watched the video, but this does seem to be a good example of a silly leftist, in the wrong, acting like a jerk that deserves to be berated.

[Edited on March 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM. Reason : ]

3/13/2017 3:57:04 PM

Bullet
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However, Spicer (and Trump) deserve to be berated when Spicer says things like he did in today's press conference:

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""I think there's no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election," Spicer said. "The President used the word wiretaps in quotes to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities."

Wiretapping is a narrowly defined surveillance activity that involves tapping into "a telephone or telegram wire in order to get information," according to Merriam-Webster dictionary.

Spicer also said that Trump was referring to the Obama administration broadly -- and not accusing Obama of personal involvement -- when he tweeted that "Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower" and accused Obama of being a "bad" or "sick guy.""

3/13/2017 4:01:00 PM

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"As Chauhan continues to ask about Russia, Spicer interjects, “Such a great country that allows you to be here.”

In her Medium post, Chauhan, who is of Indian heritage, characterized that response as threatening and racist."


LOL my bad, my eyes must have glazed over this.

3/13/2017 4:09:23 PM

Cherokee
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I'm loving the headlines: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-trump-wiretapping/index.html

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"Spicer: Trump didn't mean wiretapping when he tweeted about wiretapping"

3/13/2017 4:13:57 PM

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Trump promised no one would lose healthcare but CBO says bill be supports will cause 24 million to lose it (though also says premiums will be slightly reduced in long-term).

Trump red counties, of course, will be disproportionately affected.

3/13/2017 5:04:06 PM

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So based on Spicer's goalpost moving, is it safe assume that yes Trump or someone connected to Trump is under investigation and no it wasn't because Obama ordered or directed it? Because that's my takeaway of that backpedaling

3/13/2017 5:24:06 PM

Cherokee
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Feel so bad he has to defend such an obvious lie like this. I would quit if I was him.

3/13/2017 5:54:33 PM

moron
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-gave-cia-power-to-launch-drone-strikes-1489444374?mod=djemalertNEWS

Trump escalates the drone wars... CIA can now covertly and autonomously drone people.

3/13/2017 8:47:10 PM

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This is legitimately terrifying: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/13/presidential-executive-order-comprehensive-plan-reorganizing-executive

3/14/2017 9:48:05 AM

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Agreed. Some reorganization of the Executive branch wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but god know I don't trust President Bannon and his Goldman Sachs cronies to do it. I imagine it'll be "Bain Capital-esque." Reorganize such that it looks good on paper, send out a bunch of press releases, Trump up how efficient you are now, behind the scenes short the whole thing, make sure your ass is covered and you have someone to blame (Obama) when it all implodes.

3/14/2017 10:44:15 AM

dtownral
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this is bannon wanting to destroy the government

3/14/2017 10:59:19 AM

Cherokee
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^

3/14/2017 11:00:37 AM

Bullet
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So is Bannon really an evil genius?

3/14/2017 11:05:01 AM

moron
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Yes

Although he's not secret with his intent. He's talked and written about it plenty. South Korea impeached their president for shunting political responsibility to a family friend, bannon isn't in an elected or approved role, congressional republicans are aiming for a pyrrhic win by turning a blind eye to bannon.

3/14/2017 11:39:43 AM

Dentaldamn
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I read that article about him destroying biosphere 2.

It was not Stephen Baldwin as usually reported.

3/14/2017 12:36:38 PM

rjrumfel
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That EO mentioned above seems designed for one purpose, and that is the elimination of the EPA and possibly the Dep. of Ed:

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" In developing the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section, the Director shall consider, in addition to any other relevant factors:

(i) whether some or all of the functions of an agency, a component, or a program are appropriate for the Federal Government or would be better left to State or local governments or to the private sector through free enterprise;

(ii) whether some or all of the functions of an agency, a component, or a program are redundant, including with those of another agency, component, or program;

(iii) whether certain administrative capabilities necessary for operating an agency, a component, or a program are redundant with those of another agency, component, or program;

(iv) whether the costs of continuing to operate an agency, a component, or a program are justified by the public benefits it provides; and

(v) the costs of shutting down or merging agencies, components, or programs, including the costs of addressing the equities of affected agency staff."

3/14/2017 1:19:00 PM

moron
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

He's at record high disapproval ratings right now

probably people who think the AHCA doesn't go far enough to repeal ACA and people who bought into his "everyone's covered, very cheap, for less money" lie are dragging him down.

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 7:31 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2017 7:29:54 PM

dtownral
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MSNBC is claiming to have Trumps tax returns

Edit: from 2005

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 8:38 PM. Reason : Meh]

3/14/2017 8:36:41 PM

NyM410
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And he paid a lot in taxes.

Not to mention, what are we not talking about? Comey apparently willing to talk about investigation AND the disaster of a healthcare bill he supports. His team probably leaked it for this purpose.

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 8:58 PM. Reason : X]

3/14/2017 8:49:19 PM

Cherokee
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2005 is a start. Just need the rest of them now.

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 9:05 PM. Reason : a]

3/14/2017 9:05:03 PM

NyM410
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JFC I've never watched Maddow before. Is she just as tedious always?

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 9:09 PM. Reason : God damn she is as bad as Hannity]

3/14/2017 9:06:17 PM

thegoodlife3
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yes, she is

and unlike Hannity, she tends to have receipts. this is a common complaint over liberals v. conservatives

with that said, this whole deal is proving why attention spans in 2017 are the worst. calm the fuck down, internet.

3/14/2017 9:20:45 PM

NyM410
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Ugh this validates him. I honestly don't see the point.

He is AWFUL but this just helps his cause. Nothing bad in there (better than anyone thought) and it changes narrative.

3/14/2017 9:26:50 PM

Cherokee
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I see nothing noteworthy in this thus far. They should have researched and if there was nothing nefarious, let this thing go. Instead, they've published a headline and all that headline says is Trump paid his taxes. *sigh

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM. Reason : a]

3/14/2017 9:27:27 PM

thegoodlife3
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"He is AWFUL but this just helps his cause."


you seeing the official White House response yet?

3/14/2017 9:31:53 PM

Cherokee
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Nope. Why 2005 and how is my question. What a waste of journalistic capital if this is benign.

3/14/2017 9:42:39 PM

thegoodlife3
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a waste or a reason to get people to think about him not releasing his returns?

this is already more than he has ever released. you gonna dog her for that and not him for releasing more?

3/14/2017 10:01:36 PM

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^^ yeah they hyped this up for just having 1 year from a decade or more ago. Interesting he was still writing off from his billion dollar loss though. He should still release the rest of the years. If this was his best year in the past 12+ years, that's not really that great. Can't imagine what his worst years might show.

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2017 10:23:54 PM

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"I see nothing noteworthy in this thus far. They should have researched and if there was nothing nefarious, let this thing go. Instead, they've published a headline and all that headline says is Trump paid his taxes."


Story of the 2016 coverage of the campaign and the 2017 coverage of the administration.

3/14/2017 10:28:43 PM

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Leftists have already proven they have no ability to learn, no matter how many BS narratives are destroyed they still fall for the next one.

3/14/2017 10:54:07 PM

moron
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^^ you must have lived in the 2016 where it was spelled Berenstein Bears

3/14/2017 11:03:58 PM

Cherokee
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^^^I wouldn't say that. There is legit cause for concern regarding this Russia stuff, maybe not so much with Trump specifically but absolutely his advisers/staff/etc. And the blatant lying by Trump is utterly astonishing, almost as much as his staff willfully trying to defend it.

What pisses me off is that getting access to his tax returns theoretically could put to rest any potential corporate connections with Russia/Putin. Even if they were benign connections, if they were in them then it would be proof of another lie (Trump saying he has nothing to do with Russia).

But now that the news has gone haywire publishing size 72 font headlines that ultimately lead to a story saying "Trump paid his taxes like everyone else," how many fewer people will pay attention if/when another tax return comes out. What's worse, it sounds like this tax return doesn't even display the normal amount of corruptness that you'd expect from a super rich person. Makes him look even cleaner.

Unless I'm missing something, this was incredibly irresponsible "reporting." And again, THIS is the shit that leads people to believe the media is worthless and dishonest.

[Edited on March 14, 2017 at 11:53 PM. Reason : a]

3/14/2017 11:48:52 PM

thegoodlife3
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what is irresponsible about the way the story was reported?

3/15/2017 12:27:15 AM

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The Obama credibility thread took almost a full year of being in office to reach page 52. Trump got there in 2 months.

Making TWW Active Again

3/15/2017 12:45:49 AM

kdogg(c)
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No CC posts since 10:45 pm.

^ #fakenews

^^^ ya think?! (It is dishonest)

3/15/2017 6:11:49 AM

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2005 was already reported on. hah. here is story from a year a go about them

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-got-a-big-break-on-2005-taxes-1458249902



[Edited on March 15, 2017 at 6:40 AM. Reason : dont have log in so not sure what it says tho]

3/15/2017 6:35:42 AM

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So the WH confirmed it but then Don called it fake news this morning.

So confusing.

** he's gonna promise massive emissions regulatory changes today I'm sure. Load up on GM and Ford if you can!

[Edited on March 15, 2017 at 7:46 AM. Reason : And short Tesla]

3/15/2017 7:41:06 AM

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another example of maddow being a joke

3/15/2017 8:34:07 AM

Cherokee
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"what is irresponsible about the way the story was reported?"


It's a non-story for starters. It's not newsworthy. Being that NBC is a news organization (or at least supposed to be) it's irresponsible. Furthermore, her crazy tweets trying to garner all kinds of interest only to, again, deliver a story that says "12 years ago Donald Trump paid his taxes" is ridiculous and irresponsible.

Complete waste of time.

3/15/2017 9:02:14 AM

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While the amount of hype and buildup was frivolous and irresponsible, I believe that reporting should have been done. Regardless of that fact that they revealed nothing shady; just because it doesn't fit a narrative doesn't mean it isn't newsworthy. That being said, 1 tax return from 11 years ago does not disprove anything and makes me more suspicious of what he's trying to hide by covering with his trusty #fakenews foghorn.

3/15/2017 9:12:59 AM

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"The longer Maddow went on, ever deeper into a conspiratorial thicket, the clearer it became that whatever tax returns Maddow had, they weren’t as juicy as the ones she was talking about. If she had anything that damning, she would have shared them from the start. TV is a ratings game, but an entire episode about highly damaging tax returns is just as likely to get you great ratings as milking the possibility that you have highly damaging tax returns, and less likely to get you compared to Geraldo. Maddow even went so far as to hold the tax returns back until after the first commercial break, as if we were watching an episode of The Bachelor and not a matter of national importance—because we weren’t, in fact, watching a matter of national importance, just a cable news show trying to set a ratings record."


http://slate.me/2nD1AIf

3/15/2017 9:16:48 AM

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