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Flyin Ryan
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Have to admire Furniture Row Racing. Went from backmarker to having a contender for the series title, and all of it based far away from Charlotte. That could be part of it, not aware of their personnel, but not having any other teams based nearby has to be good for employee retention and not having to retrain every year as the team 10 miles down the road plucked your mechanic or car chief.

7/12/2017 10:42:24 PM

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^Traveling kind of sucks though. Anyone not based out of NC, or Virginia will have to travel a lot of extra miles.

7/14/2017 11:32:04 PM

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new drinking game

drink every time they say "PJ1" and chug when they show that stupid maple syrup bottle full of trackbite on tv

7/15/2017 4:28:03 PM

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finish your beer for "grip strip"

7/16/2017 12:04:41 PM

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Would be nice if the restrictor plates work on Busch cars at Indy and we see sling shot passes like Indy car do there

7/18/2017 8:22:44 AM

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They won't have the power to do a slingshot.

7/18/2017 12:38:28 PM

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We'll see but they were sling shotin the hell out of each other in late 70s with less power at Daytona

7/18/2017 1:53:31 PM

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Anyone else watching Eldora?

7/19/2017 9:11:14 PM

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this caution is ridiculous. we'll have pissed away about 10 laps by the time they get back from the second commercial break of the caution. i think they're stalling and trying to dry the track up a little with the pace laps. the trucks can't handle the mud.

lol and of course we missed the restart

[Edited on July 19, 2017 at 10:15 PM. Reason : and another caution after 2 laps ]

7/19/2017 10:14:17 PM

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busch race at indy was WAY better. i bet we see something like that aero package in cup next year there

7/22/2017 6:25:10 PM

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yeah, it was pretty good.

7/22/2017 7:46:48 PM

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i get the feeling that truex is holding back a little and letting kyle set the pace. thinking he'll turn it on in the final stage. he has enough playoff points. i think he wants the trophy.

[Edited on July 23, 2017 at 6:28 PM. Reason : dfas]

7/23/2017 6:27:31 PM

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well damn

at least the douche won't win

got a little scary for a second with the fire on the 78

[Edited on July 23, 2017 at 7:04 PM. Reason : hoping blaney can capitalize on it]

7/23/2017 7:03:26 PM

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what a shit show this turned out to be

7/23/2017 8:24:00 PM

Flyin Ryan
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NBC must be furious.

7/23/2017 8:32:41 PM

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they deserve it for delivering such shitty coverage

7/23/2017 8:36:17 PM

Flyin Ryan
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^ the lead commentator whoever he is talks like he's doing golf, there was a wreck early in the race and he didn't raise his voice a decibel

Matt DiBenedetto is 11th, FYI.

7/23/2017 8:38:03 PM

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rick allen is horrible. jeff burton and steve letarte suck too. i'll be glad when jeff gordon is back in the booth.

7/23/2017 8:40:58 PM

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holy fuck

congrats to kmrodden

[Edited on July 23, 2017 at 8:58 PM. Reason : df]

7/23/2017 8:55:46 PM

Flyin Ryan
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What a shitshow.

7/23/2017 8:56:02 PM

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Lol.

7/23/2017 8:57:22 PM

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Nascar LOL

7/23/2017 8:57:37 PM

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"What a shitshow."


Agreed! The cautions made this race take too long. They have to get rid of the stage racing cautions and competition cautions. And the competition caution shouldn't be thrown if a caution happens withing about 15 laps of the scheduled caution. I think one of the major problems with motor sports is the events are too long. That is why the stands aren't packed. People now have too short of attention spans to watch motor sports thanks to smart phones. IMSA races are great! They set the clock and when it runs out the race is over. Watching the race at Lime Rock was much more entertaining.

7/23/2017 11:29:58 PM

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The fact that everyone forgot how to drive and went all Ricky Bobby checkers or wreckers at the end had a lot more to do with the length of the event than the two stage cautions did.

7/24/2017 8:37:44 AM

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6Yeah I know, but the stage cautions still suck.

7/24/2017 9:43:24 AM

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It's either stage cautions or phantom debris cautions. I'll take the stages. They have improved competition.

[Edited on July 24, 2017 at 10:50 AM. Reason : Jx]

7/24/2017 10:50:25 AM

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Watching the race I'm just slackjawed at what modern auto racing has become. Not a full list by any means:

-we see a thunderstorm coming, command to start engines a little after 2:30, race starts around 2:40, TV coverage starts at 2, no adjustment at all with the incoming inclement weather with the extra TV time
-crash occurs on lap 10, because we already scheduled a caution at lap 20, no one is allowed to take fuel, this is from a competition perspective indefensible
-rain comes at lap 12, cars are parked for 2 to 3 hours, we move the competition caution to lap 30 because from all this time of cars standing still and the already scheduled competition cautions that NASCAR markets as ends of segments, we need to slow down the racing yet again
-J.J. Yeley crashes, collects 2 cars with him, and NBC commentator Rick Allen is so enthusiastic about his job he acts like he's covering a golf tournament calling the action and doesn't raise his voice one decibel; if you were not actively watching the TV, you would have had no idea a crash had occurred
-Rick Allen at one point said "things are so competitive, we have 34 cars on the lead lap"; well, when you throw the caution every 15 laps on a 2.5-mile oval, yeah, that occurs, that doesn't mean the guys 20th on back are running close to the leader
-then everyone starts running out of talent and crashes into one another, it took them almost an hour to run the last 10 to 15 laps in the race and the majority of those were under caution
-you had the ridiculous thing of Kahne getting passed by Keselowski when the race was green for maybe a hundred yards because NASCAR's restart rules are so constrained instead of just giving the leader charge of the field for a wider area, also the constrained restart rules helped create the large frontstretch crash and the red flag that led to...
-then the sun is going down and the race may be stopped due to darkness after a 2nd red flag due to drivers running out of talent, because a race that starts at 2:30 should end before 9 o'clock, wiping out a lot of NBC's primetime programming and I'm sure they were happy at 7:55pm about choosing to start the race later in the afternoon
-then, the race ends on a crash during a green-white-checker, however the crash occurred before Kahne crossed the restart line, but they waited to throw the caution until after Kahne crossed the line because they had to get the race over to make NBC happy but especially because they didn't want to end the race due to darkness

This race perfectly embodies what NASCAR racing in 2017.

7/24/2017 12:00:23 PM

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^Like i said, if a competition caution happens 15+ laps in that should count and there shouldn't be a competition caution just a few laps later.

7/24/2017 1:35:58 PM

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^^ pretty much


Juuuuuunnnniiooor going to be on NBC broadcasts next year!

7/24/2017 7:59:00 PM

Big4Country
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^That will be interesting. He's not the best when it comes to public speaking.

7/24/2017 8:11:55 PM

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Also, with all of the ridiculous rules that NASCAR does have, how are there no rules that force Denny Hamlin to pit before that last restart? He was obviously a wreck waiting to happen out there (and, shocker, it happened).

7/26/2017 2:22:21 AM

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They could've black flagged him. Folks would bitch about that too.

7/26/2017 7:15:52 AM

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"It's either stage cautions or phantom debris cautions. I'll take the stages. They have improved competition."


They need to get rid of both.

7/26/2017 9:03:36 AM

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I'll agree with that. Not gonna happen though.

Phantom cautions have become the norm at all levels of stock car racing now. Go to a big late model race and let someone stretch out a lead. Most promoters are going to throw a caution.

[Edited on July 26, 2017 at 9:20 AM. Reason : Fj]

7/26/2017 9:18:57 AM

Flyin Ryan
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Blaney to Penske in 2018.

Menard to Wood Brothers in 2018.

Keselowski staying at Penske in 2018.

[Edited on July 26, 2017 at 1:04 PM. Reason : .]

7/26/2017 1:01:36 PM

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looks like Porsche is leaving LMP1

7/27/2017 9:07:07 AM

Flyin Ryan
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Mercedes pulled out of DTM earlier this week too.

Manufacturers doing what manufacturers do...

7/27/2017 8:38:38 PM

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Hoping same day cup qualifying will help me in draftkings

7/28/2017 10:45:20 AM

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fuck joe gibbs

7/29/2017 9:17:00 AM

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little douche took checkers last night p1 in a SLM race but car failed post race tech so he didnt win shit

[Edited on August 2, 2017 at 6:04 PM. Reason : g]

8/2/2017 6:04:05 PM

Flyin Ryan
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Busch was class of the field and then some Sunday.

[Edited on August 3, 2017 at 11:45 PM. Reason : /]

8/3/2017 11:44:28 PM

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No more back stretch OT line. This sucks, now we're back to an unlimited number of restarts. I liked the OT line. If it wasn't for that we would still be watching the end of the Brickyard 400 live, two weeks later. Now we get to watch the leader run out of gas.

http://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/08/02/nascar-overtime-line-start-finish-line/

[Edited on August 4, 2017 at 12:09 AM. Reason : .]

8/3/2017 11:55:43 PM

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^ naw man. OT line sucked. And if the leader does run out of gas it will be great if we don't like them.

8/4/2017 7:57:07 AM

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^I like seeing the races come to an end though. Thank God they still had the OT line at the Brickyard. Even if the sun had been out for another hour that race needed to end.

8/4/2017 8:42:56 AM

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Overtime is stupid. The brickyard 400 went like 415 miles. End the race at the mileage stated.

My personal opinion. Keep the OT line but have it be the "race too" line if a yellow drops for a crash in turns 1 or 2 on the white flag lap. If a crash happens after that line then they race to the finish line. If a caution occurs before the white flag then standard rules apply

8/4/2017 9:19:38 AM

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just make races timed

8/4/2017 11:27:04 AM

beatsunc
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^ yep. 45/45/90 minute stages

8/4/2017 12:07:10 PM

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^^I don't want to see that happen with any of the non-endurance race circuits, but it is nice. The standard IMSA is race 2 hrs 40 mins. The standard WEC race is 6 hrs. When the clock runs out it is over. NASCAR should have one attempt at a restart and after that it is over.

8/4/2017 1:45:49 PM

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"Keep the OT line but have it be the "race too" line if a yellow drops for a crash in turns 1 or 2 on the white flag lap."


they'll never go back to racing to any line after the yellow comes out. guys don't want to race through wrecks. i don't really want to see that either.

8/4/2017 4:17:36 PM

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^Yeah for safety reasons there should be no racing back to the yellow flag.

8/4/2017 7:53:25 PM

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