PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
The media tells me several times a week this is a huge problem. 12/21/2016 7:45:05 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Do stupid things, win stupid prizes? 12/21/2016 7:46:14 AM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2016 8:06:34 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6603 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news-health/20161217/drug-firms-poured-780m-painkillers-into-wv-amid-rise-of-overdoses
In some skid mark WV town of 400 people this company sent 9 million hydrocodone pills in two years. 12/21/2016 8:28:54 AM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
Is trump going to do anything about this? 12/21/2016 8:37:19 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41758 Posts user info edit post |
Trumps solution is to deport mexicans. 12/21/2016 8:42:58 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure my grandmother died from an accidental fentanyl overdose. 12/21/2016 9:05:13 AM |
FroshKiller All American 51922 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like wdprice3 isn't very familiar with the actual biology of addiction and how many people who are prescribed opioid painkillers, use them exactly as prescribed, and who otherwise have no history of drug use or dependency wind up getting addicted anyway. 12/21/2016 9:08:43 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, I am very aware of that.
Doesn't make it not stupid. 12/21/2016 10:49:54 AM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
^yea, I agree the pharm industry recklessly pushing drugs with unknown consequences is pretty fucking stupid 12/21/2016 10:53:56 AM |
FroshKiller All American 51922 Posts user info edit post |
How does taking medication as prescribed fall in the category of "do stupid things"? 12/21/2016 11:00:44 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Because that's what I'm calling stupid. 12/21/2016 11:14:12 AM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
If you're interested in easy 'research' outside of TWW, there is a good Freakanomics podcast on this. Also, the guy who did Bigger, Faster, Stronger did another documentary called Prescription Thugs (not as good a BFS) that addresses opioid abuse.
Like everything, there are multiple factors at play here. Big pharm is one. We [the US] as a society do a poor job of managing addiction in general, and Doctors are taught to limit pain whenever possible. 12/21/2016 9:30:11 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
too many syllables 12/21/2016 9:32:06 PM |
beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
i bet less people would die from pain pills if weed was legal 12/21/2016 9:40:03 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
A company lied and forged the results of a few drug tests and got the entire nation addicted to synthetic heroin. We fill more prescriptions than there are people in this country yet prices still skyrocket because the supply can't keep up with the quantity demanded. Due to the rewiring of your brain chemistry and impossibly low Recovery rates demand surges and crime rises. Mexico swoops in by halving the price of heroin and flooding the streets of our country with it and getting everyone addicted to the cheaper alternative. Shady drug dealers lace the shit with fentanyl and everyone dies. And your health care premiumsystem skyrocket all the while on obamacare. s a beautiful crony capitalistic/socialistic love story.
Deaths are on the rise as much as 400% in some counties this year. Meanwhile the substance abuse industry profits as well from all the repeat customers
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 1:36 AM. Reason : A] 12/22/2016 1:13:09 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pretty sure my grandmother died from an accidental fentanyl overdose. " |
That's terrible; I'm sorry. 12/22/2016 1:33:03 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
She was already in in-home hospice care, and once a month she would be taken to a type of nursing home for a few days. When she came back, she had too many patches on her. Her caretakers there claimed the other patches were older and had already been spent.
I'm not buying it. 12/22/2016 7:39:26 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
Then why didn't they take them off?
Is your family looking into it? Not that it will do any good; it can't bring her back. But they should be held responsible if they were negligent. It could happen to someone else in their care. 12/22/2016 9:54:28 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, my dad is looking into it. 12/22/2016 10:06:13 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
Good. I'm just sorry that happened. 12/22/2016 10:13:25 AM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i bet less people would die from pain pills if weed was legal" |
it can help abate withdrawal symptoms, but you have to be mentally and physically prepared to get off heroin and switch to methadone, let alone kick it all together. Weed is not enough of a high for heroin/opiate addicts, but it can help ease the pain when you are ready.12/22/2016 10:58:40 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5879 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yea, my dad is looking into it." |
Please have a lawyer look into it. That's serious.12/22/2016 11:17:11 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Lost one of my best friends from high school to fentanyl overdose
He got addicted to sleeping pills, that moved to hydrocodone, and eventually made it's way to fentanyl over a few years.
He was licking the patches and chewing them to get all the medicine at once instead of time release. Still think about him all the time.
He was a massive Panthers fan, and died right before the Panthers drafted Kuechly. Our friends still talk about how much he would have loved to see Cam and Luke play when we get together on Sundays. 12/22/2016 11:20:50 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States.
But hey, it's not like society is constantly pressuring people into drinking. 12/22/2016 11:40:16 AM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
girl died in my living room after overdosing on heroin about a year ago (roommates gf). It was 3 am and paramedics were at my house and I went downstairs to watch for 10 min as the medics revived her with narcan.
my room mate could not understand my outrage. He moved out pretty soon after.
I have met one person who I know actually quit. It started with a surgery to fix her shoulder, given a prescription and it went downhill from there. She went through multiple methadone treatments and other therapies to kick it, never lasted for more than a few days. Although she did do a pretty long stint on methadone once, but the clinic moved while she was being treated and she had no way to get there everyday. Then after 15-20 years of addiction and burning every bridge she ever had, she finally decided she would quit cold turkey. She locked herself in a room for 2 weeks, lost about 15 lbs (she was already small) and had a lot of hardcore flu like symptoms the entire time. Hasn't looked back since. The doctor told her people die that way, but she replied with 'I would rather be dead than continue this way'.
She has had some health related things since and whenever any pain is involved (no matter how small) the doctor will say 'oh here I wrote you a Rx for the pain" she throws it away in front of them and tells them she can't have them bc she is a recovering addict (which they should know since they have her medical history) and she will usually top it off with a rant about overprescribing
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 12:13 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2016 12:08:34 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
She was revived from death? 12/22/2016 12:26:23 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51922 Posts user info edit post |
The fuck do you think "revive" means, PaulISdead? Maybe go check the definition and etymology on that one, my dude. 12/22/2016 12:34:54 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
Please post the definition and eat your words 12/22/2016 12:55:56 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51922 Posts user info edit post |
"Revive." R-E-V-I-V-E. "To restore to life or consciousness."
Etymology? From Latin re- (again) + vivere (live). Related forms include "revival" and "revivification."
Use it in a sentence? "Jesus revived Lazarus after he'd been dead for four days."
You satisfied, you dumb motherfucker?
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 1:01 PM. Reason : "Eat your words," eat a dick! LITERALLY EAT A DICK] 12/22/2016 1:00:09 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
Do you notice the "or" 12/22/2016 1:01:21 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51922 Posts user info edit post |
OH GOSH I HAVE SURELY BEEN HOISTED BY MY OWN PETARD
Sit down, dummy. Jesus fucking Christ. 12/22/2016 1:01:59 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
she probably still had a weak pulse if the narcan worked (unless they also gave her CPR, if you're getting CPR you died) 12/22/2016 1:07:27 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8837 Posts user info edit post |
Do they treat someone without a pluse with narcan? 12/22/2016 1:11:36 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Yah I'm no expert here, but I don't think this Narcan stuff can bring someone back from death.] 12/22/2016 1:16:19 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you can give it first if it doesn't delay CPR.
if you are by yourself and don't have it on you they would start CPR for a certain period of time, then get narcan and administer, then resume CPR. if you are with someone one person starts CPR and the other gets narcan. if you have it ready you can administer and start CPR.
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2016 1:17:05 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5879 Posts user info edit post |
So she didn't die then? amirite? 12/22/2016 2:51:26 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41758 Posts user info edit post |
Don't worry, the government has solve this problem completely by making possession of almost any drug a felony... 12/22/2016 2:51:27 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
Medics were doing CPR, they were shouting "no pulse" and then at some point I heard "weak pulse" and then they said something about narcan. When she came to and tried to stand up they told her to sit down bc she was "essentially dead" 30 seconds before.
I dunno exactly what the order was (it was 3am and I was freaking out that someone may be dead or dying in my house) but a few minutes after they get her to calm down they explained to her the narcan is what brought her back and asking her what she took. I am not an expert, but this is what I overheard
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2016 3:11:32 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5879 Posts user info edit post |
So it sounds like the CPR brought her back from "death". The narcan allowed her to live. 12/22/2016 3:23:06 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
that seems more correct than what the medics said, but I never really put thought into it until this post 12/22/2016 3:50:21 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28392 Posts user info edit post |
To me it seems like god brought her back to life to me 12/22/2016 4:10:25 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5879 Posts user info edit post |
Praise the Lort! 12/22/2016 4:13:15 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
This time around with the heroin has me, for once, grateful that I love booze so much.
But I love opioids, too. So white people really need to get their shit together. It's fucking bullshit if we're the first generation who has to face old age without unfettered access to pills. 12/22/2016 4:27:17 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
^Alcohol is addictive as shit. Keep on with that line of thought and you're going to be in trouble.
[Edited on December 22, 2016 at 4:37 PM. Reason : .] 12/22/2016 4:33:04 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
LOL 12/22/2016 4:39:22 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28392 Posts user info edit post |
Sources please.
Because caffeine withdrawal is much worse than alcohol withdrawal 12/22/2016 4:55:06 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11611 Posts user info edit post |
^ Seriously? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens 12/22/2016 6:14:43 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
People don't get seizures from caffeine withdrawal.
Maybe Jessie Spano. 12/22/2016 6:22:53 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28392 Posts user info edit post |
I am Jessie Spano.
(No I was not being serious, I'm not an addict.) 12/22/2016 6:26:20 PM |