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moron
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I’m completely exhausted with this Mueller report thing. How tf is this being dragged out so long? So tiring...

4/4/2019 8:49:19 PM

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Only because you're completely invested in your desired outcome.

4/5/2019 1:28:20 AM

moron
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I’m not invested in a desired outcome, we basically have the outcome already.

It’s tiring that even with the outcome there’s still struggling over it. Why can’t anything just be normal anymore...

4/5/2019 1:35:42 AM

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/04/barr-legacy-mueller-report-1256871

4/5/2019 9:12:59 AM

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^^to be fair this is normal. Just hasn't happened at this level in a while.

This whole thing needs to be declassified and released. Protecting information and sources is fine in normal circumstances but not with respect to allegations this serious directed at people this high in power. They should make arrangements to secure the safety of anyone at risk, release it and begin cultivating new sources.

The fact that our President can't even tell the truth regarding where his father was born eliminates the right to all benefit of the doubt

[Edited on April 5, 2019 at 10:47 AM. Reason : A]

4/5/2019 10:46:11 AM

moron
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^ this isnt normal. The starr report was public released the next day. This is actually very abnormal for these types of investigations at this level.

4/5/2019 10:50:00 AM

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The law changed since the starr report

It will still get released, be patient

4/5/2019 11:17:38 AM

Cherokee
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^^sorry I thought you meant the discourse in general, not specifically the fact of the report not having been released yet

4/5/2019 2:01:33 PM

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SUBPOENA THE GOD DAMN REPORT ALREADY WTF???!?!??!!?!

4/9/2019 5:31:52 PM

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Barr said it will be available within a week

4/9/2019 6:36:58 PM

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Curious what Barr actually makes available. He's pretty obviously trying to bait Democrats into starting impeachment proceedings.

4/9/2019 8:53:58 PM

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In what way is he doing that?

4/9/2019 9:14:05 PM

moron
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He implied he was consulting the Whitehouse on redactions today.

4/9/2019 9:15:00 PM

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^^ It's the subtext to some of Barr's see-you-in-court rhetoric around Congress getting the unredacted Mueller report. I also think Trump wants the House wants to begin impeachment.

4/10/2019 1:03:33 AM

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Every minute that goes by is going to be Barr:

-fabricating a public defense/PR offensive with the Whitehouse
-laying stumbling blocks for possible future prosecutions
-creating more investigations (of FISA handling, etc) which will only increase the redactions (ongoing investigation)
-every minute of delay increases the time till we actually get the report since its probably gonna end up as a court fight.

It took close to 6 years before Iran-Contra investigations were finally buried (from initial investigation to the last pardon). We need to start this process NOW.

[Edited on April 10, 2019 at 7:42 AM. Reason : IF the tables were flipped, The GOP would have subpoenaed this the day Mueller sent it to the AG]

4/10/2019 7:40:26 AM

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Note that Barr refuses to answer if or whom at the whitehouse he has briefed on the report. This question has absolutely nothing to do with the content of the report, is not classified or sensitive in any way, and he has no basis not to answer that question except he just doesn't want to.

He's simply refusing to comply with Congressional Oversight simply because he thinks his answer will damage his position.

Subpoena Barr and all his communications with the Whitehouse, subpoena the report, subpoena Mueller. DO IT YESTERDAY!!!

[Edited on April 10, 2019 at 12:03 PM. Reason : Its like Dem Congress people like this beating around the bush shit]

4/10/2019 12:02:03 PM

moron
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It’s kind of amazing they’re announcing an investigation of the investigation before they even release the results. This process couldn’t have been more partisan unless Barr torched every copy of the report.

4/10/2019 7:33:56 PM

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I'm trying very hard to be reasonable regarding Barr, but this nonsense about him randomly sputtering shit like "the campaign was spied on but I have no evidence" is making that very difficult. The fuck is this guy doing?

4/11/2019 10:48:24 AM

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Barr is counting on you to be reasonable while he behaves unreasonably. GOP 101.

4/11/2019 11:18:57 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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William Barr told The New York Times in 2017 that he saw more basis in investigating Hillary Clinton's involvement with Uranium One than investigating collusion between Donald Trump and Russia.

4/11/2019 11:34:01 AM

TerdFerguson
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A lot of people are saying, that this seems like a coverup.

4/17/2019 6:34:32 PM

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I dont think Mueller would be complicit

4/17/2019 7:13:15 PM

TerdFerguson
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I was more referring to the Barr rollout, and I don’t think tomorrow will even be the end. This entire process is moving in slow motion.

4/17/2019 8:19:43 PM

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^^^
Lengthy Mueller investigation coming to an end about a month after the new ag Barr was confirmed. The optics make it look like obstruction. Sessions won't end the Mueller investigation, put in someone that will/did.

A month between the delivery of the report and its partial release? The optics make it look like it took them that long to find clever ways to redact, edit, or bury the parts of the report that are incriminating to them.

And of course the man at the top's "truth" is based entirely on what he's feeling in that exact moment, not anything resembling reality. His entire administration can't be trusted.

So yeah, not surprised that people believe in a coverup. Hell, that seems to be the #1 job of the senate majority these days. Coverup or look the other way.

4/17/2019 8:52:19 PM

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Big question for me is if Democrats in Congress will be able to read the unredacted report.

Can someone bring me up to speed there plz?

4/17/2019 11:27:11 PM

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Not at this time from what I’ve seen. The house judiciary committee voted to authorize a subpoena for the full report, but that hasn’t progressed very far yet. Apparently there will be a less redacted report that will be made available to a “limited number of members of Congress” although I’m not clear on exactly who that would be

4/18/2019 7:43:07 AM

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President Wormbrain is on message this morning.

[Edited on April 18, 2019 at 8:18 AM. Reason : Super cool that we are all numb to the President accusing all his political enemies of crimes.]

4/18/2019 8:16:03 AM

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Does Vegas have a line on how much of the released report will be redacted?

4/18/2019 8:22:40 AM

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lol at the Australian confirmation timing

4/18/2019 9:08:28 AM

NyM410
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Nice audition for press secretary.

4/18/2019 10:02:58 AM

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Can’t wait to read [redacted] about [redacted]. I really thought [redacted], especially since [redacted] given all the [redacted] pee party. It’s [redacted], but not very [redacted]....no...collusion...We live in a [redacted] banana republic.

4/18/2019 10:20:04 AM

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ryan j. reilly: is there any impropriety for you to come out spinning the report before the public has a chance to read it
rosenstein: smirks and looks at barr
barr: panicked pause ... no

... and press conference immediately shut down

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when barr said that he and rosenstein "disagreed with some of the Special Counsel's legal theories and felt that some of the episodes examined did not amount to obstruction as a matter of law" that totally means mueller said there was obstruction

[Edited on April 18, 2019 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .]

4/18/2019 10:24:25 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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The redacted Mueller report is only 182 pages?

4/18/2019 11:09:21 AM

dtownral
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448 pages total
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

4/18/2019 11:19:34 AM

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The definition of conspiracy is incredibly narrow. Rightfully so from a legal standpoint.

“No collusion” is obviously a lie given the little I’ve read of the report but no illegal conspiracy seems pretty cut and dry given the narrow definition.

4/18/2019 11:24:22 AM

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Quote :
"Michael Cohen, former executive vice president of the Trump Organization and special counsel to Donald J. Trump, told the Office that he recalled an incident in which he was in candidate trump's office in Trump Tower [REDACTED - HARM TO ONGOING MATTER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------] Cohen further told the Office that, after WikiLeak's subsequent release of stolen DNC emails in July 2016, candidate Trump said to Cohen something to the effect of, [REDACTED -HARM TO ONGOIGN MATTER -----------------------]"

4/18/2019 11:29:38 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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^^^ I see. It's broken into two volumes; volume one is 199 pages, and volume two is 182 pages.

[Edited on April 18, 2019 at 11:32 AM. Reason : ]

4/18/2019 11:32:02 AM

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"According to Dated, by the late summer of 2016, the Trump Campaign was planning a press strategy, a communications campaign, and messaging based on the possible release of Clinton emails by WikiLeaks. [HARM TO ONGOING MATTER ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------] while Trump and gates were driving to LaGuardia Airport. [HARM TO ONGOING MATTER------------------------------------], shortly after the call candidate Trump told Gates that more releases of damaging information would be coming."

4/18/2019 11:35:44 AM

moron
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1118895263790370817?s=21

There seems to be extremely damning statements indicating obstruction of justice. Mueller is saying the investigation was materially damaged by lies to congress and destroyed evidence.

Mueller demonstrated trump took a truthful statement by Don Jr regarding the trump tower meeting and turned it into a lie.

4/18/2019 11:38:20 AM

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then it talks about how Corsi asked to be put in touch with Assange and Malloch said people around Nigel Farage could contact him, but with a shit load of redactions. Someone made contact with Assange and was told that hacked emails of Podesta would be released prior to election day that would be helpful to the trump campaign.

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"Malloch stated to investigators that beginning in or about August 2016, he and Corsi had multiple FaceTime discussions about WikiLeaks [REDACTED HARM TO ONGOING MATTER------------------------------------------------] had made a connection to Assange and that the hacked emails of John Podesta would be released prior to Election Day and would be helpful in the Trump Campaign. In one conversation in or around August or September 2016, Corsi told Malloch that the release of the Podesta emails was coming, after which "we" were going to be in the drivers seat.

[giant redacted section]..."

4/18/2019 11:38:22 AM

moron
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The redactions in this are fairly substantial. Wow.

4/18/2019 11:45:07 AM

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Wikileaks send Trump Jr. the password for a website that was about to launch that was about Trump's connections to Russia, PutinTrump.org.

Trump Jr. said he tried the password and it worked, then he emailed senior campaign staff to ask about the group.

this is small potatoes in context, but imagine chelsea clinton doing the same - the media would have "CHELSEA CLINTON HACKED ANTI-CLINTON WEBSITE" stories for days

4/18/2019 11:45:41 AM

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i don't think i'm ethically in the wrong for quoting parts as i read, i'm just a guy on a message board with a few people, but i really wish the media would take a breath and read the full report before starting to comment on it

4/18/2019 11:51:08 AM

moron
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“Trump’s reported reaction when he was told Mueller was appointed: “This is the end of my presidency. I’m fucked.””

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1118895509580734464?s=21

I guess trump had more faith in the justice system than it deserved...

4/18/2019 12:17:56 PM

moron
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Trump is as dumb and crooked as the worst caricatures of him have depicted:



I'm hoping even GOP members of Congress realize they can't go on pretending this guy is a worthy President at this point

[Edited on April 18, 2019 at 12:20 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2019 12:20:13 PM

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"I'm hoping even GOP members of Congress realize they can't go on pretending this guy is a worthy President at this point
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they can

[Edited on April 18, 2019 at 12:25 PM. Reason : and will]

4/18/2019 12:25:38 PM

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https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/1118903049395818497

Apparently theres a vague reference to the pee tapes in the Mueller reports...

4/18/2019 12:29:11 PM

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No excuse not to start impeachment now

4/18/2019 12:31:34 PM

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if you haven't started reading, the 2nd volume has plenty of what seems like solid evidence of obstruction, i'd start with the second volume. barr's conclusion summary was not remotely accurate.

4/18/2019 1:07:23 PM

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downright embarrassing how so many took the Barr summary seriously

4/18/2019 1:17:31 PM

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